So, I've just finished installing my new system in the max. Sounds good, a pioneer DEH-p3600, two 6.5" pioneer speakers in the doors, and two 6x9" boss speakers in the rear.

My question: I left the bose amps in the rear, now I got to thinking about possible uses for the wires leading to the bose amps. Just curious, has anyone used the stock wires feeding the bose amps to connect to an aftermarket amp? I was thinkin' that it would be the same, except I wouldn't have to rewire the power wires, just the audio jacks. I figure the positive wires from the bose amps are connected straight to the battery, and the negative wires would of course be grounded to the car frame. Am I missing something here? Or could this be done?

Thanks

 

I don't think those wires would be sufficient enough for a serious amp. Also they are going right back up into those connectors behind the HU, i believe

 

what he said. it's better to run new lines unless you want to starve your amp(s) of sufficient power.

 

Why would the existing wires starve the amp of sufficient power. My understanding is those wires are connected to the same places that you would connect new wires too. (positive to batter, negative to car frame). Are you saying that the thickness of the wires is not sufficient or what?

 

The Boses system gives only the 'signal' which is in milliamps -level. There a thinny wire is sufficient as amplifier is in speaker units.

You may use those and listen, and also hear well at low volume level. But bass will be cut out when u turn vol on a little, as the skinnywires cannot supply necessary pwr.

Check out the Bose schematics from Manual↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓

 

yup. you'll overheat and melt the wires if you try to draw too much current through them.

 

Never will melt in this application.

 

if he trys to run a 500 watt amp he sure as heck will.
I've seen some very melted wires from less current

food for thought: http://www.the12volt.com/wiring/recwirsz.asp

 

Note: He is not feedin the amps, but scrappin em. Hes about to use em as speaker wires...

 

he plans on adding an Amp not just running his speakers

 

I did not read that way... never imagined such a connection. I'd think he would use new amp, use speakers & ol wires. (Works, nogood). Anyways, issue cleared.

 

Reread please

 

ReaDing does not hlp: u may connect amp to +12V and use the wires for speakers, the txt may also implicate that intention.
But really, stupidos may connect also that way as u have read the txt. Note: Also uSing signal wire as starter wires ...will melt... and btw, starter will no run with the amp musicko.

Pls. At last try to read this: no need for me in wiring edu.

End of Story.

 

I'm not sure if this was clear, so let me specify. There is a clip that plugs into the factory amps in the trunk in the rear. My clips are blue, if you cut the clip feeding the amp, you will see four (4) wires. Two of the wires will be thicker than the other two. The thicker wires are red and black (+,-). These I assume feed power to the factory amps. The other two wires are speaker wires. What I am curious in doing, is to take the red and black wires and hook them up to an aftermarket amp. Thus not having to run new power wires through the vehicle from the battery. I don't know what the gauge is on these wires, but they seem pretty thick. I would assume 10 guage or so, but I don't know exactly. My assumption is that the red wire goes straight to the battery and that the black wire is connected to the body of the car somewhere. Therefore, it would make no sense in running new wires through, unless of couse as you all have brought up, the gauge is not sufficient. By the way, this is more out of curiosity than anything. I don't exactly plan on doing this anytime soon, if at all. I guess asside from gauge of wire being the issue, it's the question of where the wires are actually going. I don't know if the wires are connected to the vehicle in the fashion I described, or if they pass through some other things first.

Thanks for the help.

 

they will work, but you have to make sure you wire up the trigger wire up front.
one of the wires in the factory harness turns on the amps if you don't connect it, the wires don't get power.
yes I've already done it.

 

how would you find this trigger wire? And what would you connect it to? The battery directly? Thanks for the info though.

 

the 12 volts on the red wire that powers the bose amplifier comes from a relay. the relay is energized by a green/white stripe wire that comes from the bose radio small connector (one of the 4 corners). i don't know where the relay is physically located at but if you tap the wire for activating the power antenna and feed it to the green/white stripe wire, you will supply 12 volts to all four speaker locations. i get this info from page EL-107 of the fsm.

iwouldn't connect the wire to the battery because then you will have a "hot" wire all the time and the relay coil might burn up from being on 24/7.

 

You cannot as there is no trigger wire. To speakers there are four wires: supply plus/minus and audiosignal/gnd. Check out that EL-107.

1. Find all ends of your bose wires and disconnect. Plain follow up work.

2. Install amp near radio, in front. Get its pwr supply where radio is connected.

3. Use your disconnected bose wires as speaker wires, the thicker the better..

 

I found it by looking at wiring diagrams.
you connect the trigger wire to the trigger wire off the HU, or to a switched ignition source.

 

The problem is: theres NO thing called "trigger wire"

 

on the bose system there is a wire that triggers the relay.
call it what you want but it's function remains the same.
the non-bose also has a trigger wire but it goes directly to the amp

 

U like to be so infinidesimal in comments, why not here?

'Trigger' is erroneus name.

Triggering means waiting for some parameters to be fulfilled (=go over predestined limit) , THEN starting another chain of events.

U could call it Maybe 'Pwr On' or 'enable'.

 

wanna try again
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=trigger

3. Electronics. A pulse or circuit that initiates the action of another component.

 

Here u are telling us that Bose is pulsing a relay. Cannot beleive in that.

 

takeing things out of context, as you just did, is ALWAYS a problem.

since those of us who are native english speakers know what has been said is correct. I will now drop this thread and say no more

 

Good decision. Nothing to do with natives, but level of understanding in digital tecnology.