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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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nice but you still havnt aswered the q auto or stick


and take some pics of the motor mounts or at least explain alittle
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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Nice job, power must feel a LOT better..what car is that engine off since I'm not familiar with it?
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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the car is stick of course 5spd 96 5spd tranny.
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bgcease92
the car is stick of course 5spd 96 5spd tranny.
so it's a 2001 DE-K engine and a 96 tranny?

Here are some initial questions (and things to consider providing for the write up)

What axles are being used?
What wiring harness and ECU?
Motor mounts + placement?
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 01:04 AM
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wait, your saying a Turbo is better for an open deck aluminum block?
a turbo is better on everything


very, very awesome swap. its definitely about time.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin
so it's a 2001 DE-K engine and a 96 tranny?

Here are some initial questions (and things to consider providing for the write up)

What axles are being used?
What wiring harness and ECU?
Motor mounts + placement?
yeah its about time someone do this. Great work man. 10 thumbs up!
Yeah im wondering what was used in the swap too.... axels harness..etc....

And yes a turbo is better on anything!
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 06:48 AM
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That whole "lier" thing was to get you proveoke to post. It worked and damn... This is frikn amazing!
PLease fill in the major details and pics of the mounts, please.

I've been running around for a while for a vq set up.

I may have to go bigger now. lol
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by vansskaterfreek
that must of been a hell of a time wiring that stuff... i had a hell of a time swapping in my VE motor into a VG car... props man! ohh and how does that power f eel??????? and please tell me it is the 6 speed tranny
well like they say , it always hard the first time around then you get the hang of it.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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ok here some of ther detail this also Not the regular dek this the ae edition the difference is two different rpm switch points that why u see two rpm switchs to operate at two different rpm points. when it kicks it feels like a turbo spooling when the second switch is activated.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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ok here some of ther detail this also Not the regular dek this the ae edition the difference is two different rpm switch points that why u see two rpm switchs to operate at two different rpm points. when it kicks it feels like a turbo spooling when the second switch is activated.
it's funny that i've been kicking around whether to keep my 3rd gen or not, and i was thinking about a vq engine/trans swap once i do the rest of the bodywork.looks like you guys will have a friend later in the year.did you use the stock ae wiring and ae compuer etc?
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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awesome job.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by diiesel21
well like they say , it always hard the first time around then you get the hang of it.
come onman give us the details
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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I am sure it will be a PITA to do a "write up".
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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nice work!!!
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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learn some english first, but other than that props on the swap
its about time somone ****ed up a good thread with some OT crap, so it could be locked and un-useful. i could care less if he spoke a lick of english, and needed a translator to type it on a commodore 64, he did something people only talked. actions speak louder than words.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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my comments:

1. great job in doing all that research and actually going out and doing what everyone else just talks about.

2. A write up would be awesome but dont feel you have to do it. I mean you put a lot of time into your research and anyone that wants to do it can do exactly what you did. Dont get me wrong a write up would be awesome and I would enjoy reading it but its something you should want to do and not be expected to do just because you did something no one else has.

3. are you going to put a MEVI on it (is there even room) if you dont SC or Turbo it. i dont really read the 4th gen boards but from what I understand that really gives the VQ a lot more power.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Congrats on the swap! That's my kind of swap (check sig). You have plans to dyno?
Finally makes the 3rd gen a real car :
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by awsm66
my comments:

1. great job in doing all that research and actually going out and doing what everyone else just talks about.

2. A write up would be awesome but dont feel you have to do it. I mean you put a lot of time into your research and anyone that wants to do it can do exactly what you did. Dont get me wrong a write up would be awesome and I would enjoy reading it but its something you should want to do and not be expected to do just because you did something no one else has.

3. are you going to put a MEVI on it (is there even room) if you dont SC or Turbo it. i dont really read the 4th gen boards but from what I understand that really gives the VQ a lot more power.
MEVI only applys to 95-99 VQ his newer VQ has a VI which is better than the MEVI

i dont need nor expect a right up because like said it would be WAY to time consuming to make one that would be useful but you have to give the basic details like motor mounts and what computer your running
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by subs1000w
MEVI only applys to 95-99 VQ his newer VQ has a VI which is better than the MEVI

i dont need nor expect a right up because like said it would be WAY to time consuming to make one that would be useful but you have to give the basic details like motor mounts and what computer your running
When I mentioned that earlier, I pretty much meant explain just the basics: what parts were used, what tricks might help, etc. because a full write up would be pretty difficult. I think the biggest obstacles are mounting points, axles and engine control (ECU, wiring, etc).
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by subs1000w
MEVI only applys to 95-99 VQ his newer VQ has a VI which is better than the MEVI
O I see...sorry I know nothing about VQs but just remember reading something about the MEVI.

Originally Posted by subs1000w
i dont need nor expect a right up because like said it would be WAY to time consuming to make one that would be useful but you have to give the basic details like motor mounts and what computer your running
But he doesnt "have" to...yeah it would be great but he "could" say do the research yourself lol (hopefully not though). No I dont think I would do the swap either but it is very interesting.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by awsm66
O I see...sorry I know nothing about VQs but just remember reading something about the MEVI.



But he doesnt "have" to...yeah it would be great but he "could" say do the research yourself lol (hopefully not though). No I dont think I would do the swap either but it is very interesting.

your right he doesnt have to but if he wants to be a * he can just leave and never return, its great to do this but you cant come on hear post some bland pics and demand utmost respect from everyone unless you help further the comminuty by answering a few simple questions thats the point of this place this is why ive spent the last 4 years of my life here was to learn some and help some and so far i havnt learned a dam thing in this thread. for all we know he could have paid a shop a few k to do it, that would explain him not being able to aswer anything about it. if this is the case thats fine but he needs to come out and say he didnt do it himself and thats the reason hes not going into detail about anything
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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Any ways guys its easier than u think. we will put togetheir a write up soon the hardest part was the harness wiring and the axels the motor mounts wasn't an issue really at all we just change the the cross member from the 92 to one from a 96. and worked around what would fit and what wouldn't.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Desil and I wanted everyone to benefit from this thats only reason why we did it bc people said it couldn't be done. We knew the potential of the third gen a long time ago. Guys could believe that 92 se maxima could top out a 150 mph and we did with the s ve motor. We have the $$$ to play with any car but decided it would be sick to have a fully built 3rd gen with all bolt ons of a dek with jwt tunning. how sick could it be? We loved that fact few people respected the 3gen and we wanted it to get the respect it deserves. We want someone on here to be the next one to do it this but with a 3.5 liter. i've been an org member since 1998 but only started posting in 2000 and i read the org everyday for the past 6 yrs. so i just took some of the knowledge learned here and applied my own ideas to it and it work so for that i glad. i apperciate everyone's positive input and dispise the negative.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by vansskaterfreek
be nice now guys!... no need for this thread to be locked up... settle it with PM....


you should have put in the 6 speed tranny......why the 5-speed?????
i agree but then again its like saying you should have put in the VQ35 why VQ30

it probobly came down to cost and avalibility which both favor the VQ30/5spd
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by subs1000w
i agree but then again its like saying you should have put in the VQ35 why VQ30

it probobly came down to cost and avalibility which both favor the VQ30/5spd
like my brother was saying be4, at the time of purchase I could only find 2k1 motor. I bought this motor be4 any of you guyz thought bout doing a 3.5 swap. if I could go back and do it again I would have done a 3.5 swap becuz it would have been easier over all.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by vansskaterfreek
well the guy had to have alot of money since the swap probably cost a couple thousand dollars.. if you are gonna do it.. mind as well go all out!
well I bought all upgraded parts iinstead of stock parts as in
lighten flywheel
stage one clutch
ypipe
udp
jwt ecu
p/f TB
stephen tb plate
and so on
ppl I.m on my phone typin so I'm not going to get detail on the whole set up but I will when I get home
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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i think the K in the VQ30DE-K stands for variable intake if im not mistaken....
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Can the idiots PLEASE keep at LEAST ONE FREAKIN' THREAD FREE FROM IDIOT POSTS?? So the rest of us might learn how this swap goes?

I'd like to know if you had to weld in the 3rd engine mount and how the wiring went? ie... 4 gen guages?

Thanks. Great work on the swap. I bet the 3-gen is light as hell now. hehe
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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We took out pieces the 3rd gen engine harness spliced it with the fourth gen harness for wiring. The reason for this was we wanted to use the jwt ecu from the 96 to get the most hp out onf the dek ae. Also we used the 95-98 wsp ypipe and motorstom udp and 2.5 cat back and also the 2001 pathfinder throttle body with stephen adapter plate. Also bc of the different size injectors with the 2001 dumping a little more gas. We swapped the old 92 fuel pump for a q45 fuel pump. We used forth gen starter , alt, and soon to be iavc after i get another plate from stephen max.
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Can the idiots PLEASE keep at LEAST ONE FREAKIN' THREAD FREE FROM IDIOT POSTS?? So the rest of us might learn how this swap goes?

I'd like to know if you had to weld in the 3rd engine mount and how the wiring went? ie... 4 gen guages?

Thanks. Great work on the swap. I bet the 3-gen is light as hell now. hehe
for the mounts there is only two mounts holding the engine along with the tranny mounts i'll take pics and post so you could see what i am talking about
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Cool. So I assume you choose not to use the oem front mount that should be right near the pass shock tower area?

Originally Posted by bgcease92
for the mounts there is only two mounts holding the engine along with the tranny mounts i'll take pics and post so you could see what i am talking about
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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i think its the mount on the passenger side of the car but dont qoute let me get some more pics for u 2 morrow. the car is so much lighter the car sat on the floor with sprint springs evenly but the front sit higher in the front than the back like the forth gens do. now thecar pulls harder than my own car and i have everything even with my dek. no boost thou
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bgcease92
We want someone on here to be the next one to do it this but with a 3.5 liter .
well have talk one day, im not even close to ready to do this, but i will be by the end of the year.

so you used an a/m 4th gen ecu and wiring, interesting. 3rd gen shifter linkages or 4th gen? same for clutch mc, 3rd or 4th gen?
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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yeah what tranny.
Old Jan 3, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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i think the K in the VQ30DE-K stands for variable intake if im not mistaken....
the K stands for kaizen which means continuous improvment
Old Jan 3, 2006 | 06:51 AM
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Wonderful. Need to get some aftermarket springs to get rid of the 4x4 look now!
I am sure it is great to loose some weight off the front end and to also gain the performance.

Congrats! BTW I don't think were the first to conceive the idea, but you are definitely the first one to bring it to fruition.
Old Jan 3, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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Wonderful. Need to get some aftermarket springs to get rid of the 4x4 look now!
I am sure it is great to loose some weight off the front end and to also gain the performance.

Congrats! BTW I don't think were the first to conceive the idea, but you are definitely the first one to bring it to fruition.
They have sprint springs IIRC. The problem is that the springs are manufactured to a certain load weight of the engine. But they had just shaved off a good amount of weight so the front is gonna sit high now.
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nothing some coilovers can't fix.

so what were the major hurdles you ran into on this? I know what parts you need for the most part, but how did you go about the engine/tranny mounts, axles/wheel hubs, etc?

also the wiring harness is one I'm curious on.. you used the VQ gauges or the stock 3 gen gauges? IIRC, the VQ stuff is all digital and the VE/VG are analog.

I'd love to see how you got around those hurdles.. it's what's holding me back from doing it in may car as well.
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Wonderful. Need to get some aftermarket springs to get rid of the 4x4 look now!
I am sure it is great to loose some weight off the front end and to also gain the performance.

Congrats! BTW I don't think were the first to conceive the idea, but you are definitely the first one to bring it to fruition.
Actually I saw a 3 gen with a 4gen VQ a couple years ago. it looked like a hack job in some places, but it was running.. never got much info out of the guys about it.
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nothing some coilovers can't fix.

so what were the major hurdles you ran into on this? I know what parts you need for the most part, but how did you go about the engine/tranny mounts, axles/wheel hubs, etc?

also the wiring harness is one I'm curious on.. you used the VQ gauges or the stock 3 gen gauges? IIRC, the VQ stuff is all digital and the VE/VG are analog.

I'd love to see how you got around those hurdles.. it's what's holding me back from doing it in may car as well.
What coilovers will fit our max. Will 4th gens coilovers work on 3rd gen fronts. Matt just do it. They probably swapped gauges as they used a different tranny and swapped the ecu.



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