(56K beware pics) i'm not a lier
Originally Posted by VD Providah
What coilovers will fit our max. Will 4th gens coilovers work on 3rd gen fronts. Matt just do it. They probably swapped gauges as they used a different tranny and swapped the ecu.
GREAT JOB!!!! WOW!! must be a rocket to drive after it hits 4K
does anybody know if 5th gen coilovers fit on 4th gens?
i love when projects like this come together.. keep on tuning
Originally Posted by vipervadim
GREAT JOB!!!! WOW!! must be a rocket to drive after it hits 4K
does anybody know if 5th gen coilovers fit on 4th gens?
i love when projects like this come together.. keep on tuning
does anybody know if 5th gen coilovers fit on 4th gens?
i love when projects like this come together.. keep on tuning
Originally Posted by subs1000w
your right he doesnt have to but if he wants to be a * he can just leave and never return, its great to do this but you cant come on hear post some bland pics and demand utmost respect from everyone unless you help further the comminuty by answering a few simple questions thats the point of this place this is why ive spent the last 4 years of my life here was to learn some and help some and so far i havnt learned a dam thing in this thread. for all we know he could have paid a shop a few k to do it, that would explain him not being able to aswer anything about it. if this is the case thats fine but he needs to come out and say he didnt do it himself and thats the reason hes not going into detail about anything
To the thread starter: Fantastic job. You have, IMHO, the pefect Maxima. 3rdGen styling + a VQ. If you ever make it to the dyno, I would love to see your graph.
Originally Posted by RamJetMax
Why not just get a different car?
anyhow, mad props for doing the swap! the few years of reading the 3rd gen forum, people only talked about swapping the VQ into a 3rd gen, but not many have done it. Betcha that 3rd gen pulls much harder now!
actually it was mostly diiesil21 hard work and dedication i just helped with the research and planning ans some sourceing of parts . Diiesel21 derserve all the credit for this and i will step back and let him explain about his . And for the guys who really want to know how it was done he is gonna give a how 2 swap info write up so just relax. For all other who said nice things great and all other negative input is simply ignored and results in people not wanting talk about it anymore so save your negative comments to your self. Diiesel21 ur the man. Starchild ur the man also representing the fastest 5th gen in brooklyn , ny
Originally Posted by tripleGmax
i think the K in the VQ30DE-K stands for variable intake if im not mistaken....
Originally Posted by bgcease92
ok here some of ther detail this also Not the regular dek this the ae edition the difference is two different rpm switch points that why u see two rpm switchs to operate at two different rpm points. when it kicks it feels like a turbo spooling when the second switch is activated.
I'd really just like to see mount pics and axle info, that would just save a headache. Wiring/Exhaust/everything else is cake for me.
Kinda makes me wish I did a VQ35 in the Black Maxima, but at the same time I'd rather put the time and money into my Mustang lol.
Originally Posted by MrGone
and different exhaust cams IIRC
what did you do about the MAP sensor then? throw it under the hood or leave it under the dash like a 01?
I'd really just like to see mount pics and axle info, that would just save a headache. Wiring/Exhaust/everything else is cake for me.
what did you do about the MAP sensor then? throw it under the hood or leave it under the dash like a 01?
I'd really just like to see mount pics and axle info, that would just save a headache. Wiring/Exhaust/everything else is cake for me.
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Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
You have got to be joking?!? Your sense of entitlement, arrogance, and overall rudeness is unbelievable. No wonder most people who do serious mods to 3rdGens don't post about it. People like you **** them off / scare them off.
Yes, a write up IS going to be a ***** but I'm determined to do one because this sort of information SHOULD be shared. I won't say must, as that is being overbearing, but to say to this community that I've done something with no intention to sell the idea off or whatnot, I think it is the fair thing to do. Not everybody is going to go to the length and expense I have to hopefully achieve what I've aimed for. But it would definitely be nice to know how it was all done in case somebody would like to do the same and maybe even just one small aspect is all that somebody wants to know to do something else which may not necessarily involve turbocharging the vehicle. I'm even getting rid of the NOS because we're going to gain some more low-end torque without having to pump in another 50hp shot of the old happy gas.
Each to their own but in my opinion, sure it might take a long time to do a write up but think of what you're contributing as opposed to just displaying. I see it as a means of giving back to the community what I've gained. I suppose diesel feels hard done by because he's been called a liar and so on. It's unfortunate and understandable. But my homework involved a lot of interaction with people in the field and more importantly, Matt93SE and Kaleb especially from my humble beginnings with the 4DSC BBS and then some from some other guys there too. If it wasn't for the Maximaniac community, I would not have known about Level 10's 600hp auto which I have in my 3rd gen. If it wasn't for the Maximaniac community, I would have been flying pretty blind in this project but to even source components which are hard to find for improved performance and reliability, I feel it's my duty to give something back and credit where credit is due too.
Why? Because that's why people come here. That's also why people read car magazines (or at least I did). Three years ago I was approached by Zoom magazine to do a feature article and the ONLY reason why I'm thinking of keeping it a secret is because of the readers being locals and potentially making the car a thief magnet for its parts rather than for the car itself (who really wants an old man's luxury sedan as it's marketed here in Australia?)
That's just my opinion but Diesel, it's up to you if you want to make a write up on this. I'm only curious myself but I'm sure there are many here who would be keen to find out how you went about it and perhaps even find ways to refine (assuming there is any room for improvement at all) the process? This is how great ideas come to life, not by saying that you will "maybe, maybe not" contribute to the community which gathers for the continued effort to keep the 3rd gen in the limelight and improve it in ways that would make any Maximaniac get a massive boner in their pants!
<--- That's my sperm going nuts over the thought of my project finally reaching completion and hopefully someone else who would like to do the same!Heheh. Nevertheless, it's good to see there are others out there who do believe in breaking the rules but more importantly, actually go through with breaking them! Kudos to you dude.
Originally Posted by The Max
Sorry dude but I have to disagree there. My understanding of (and reason for joining) the Maximaniac community is that we're looking at doing cool things to our rides and are hoping to exchange info on how to achieve this. I've given progress reports during the course of the turbocharging of my VG and although it's been a 4 year long project due to complete f__kwit mechanics, the project is finally back on course but with a much more radical approach to the engine build particularly in terms of possibly modifying it with a 4 bolt main cap setup, Chev pistons and rods, stroked to 3.5L, dry sump, Accusump pre-ignition oiling, etc. I've done all my homework prior to starting the project in the first place. Now my new engineer who is helping me with the tribunal case to sue the other bastard mechanic is also doing all the homework to achieve things which I never even considered because I thought there was only so much you could do to these blocks. Evidently, I was wrong and so were my other sources.
Yes, a write up IS going to be a ***** but I'm determined to do one because this sort of information SHOULD be shared. I won't say must, as that is being overbearing, but to say to this community that I've done something with no intention to sell the idea off or whatnot, I think it is the fair thing to do. Not everybody is going to go to the length and expense I have to hopefully achieve what I've aimed for. But it would definitely be nice to know how it was all done in case somebody would like to do the same and maybe even just one small aspect is all that somebody wants to know to do something else which may not necessarily involve turbocharging the vehicle. I'm even getting rid of the NOS because we're going to gain some more low-end torque without having to pump in another 50hp shot of the old happy gas.
Each to their own but in my opinion, sure it might take a long time to do a write up but think of what you're contributing as opposed to just displaying. I see it as a means of giving back to the community what I've gained. I suppose diesel feels hard done by because he's been called a liar and so on. It's unfortunate and understandable. But my homework involved a lot of interaction with people in the field and more importantly, Matt93SE and Kaleb especially from my humble beginnings with the 4DSC BBS and then some from some other guys there too. If it wasn't for the Maximaniac community, I would not have known about Level 10's 600hp auto which I have in my 3rd gen. If it wasn't for the Maximaniac community, I would have been flying pretty blind in this project but to even source components which are hard to find for improved performance and reliability, I feel it's my duty to give something back and credit where credit is due too.
Why? Because that's why people come here. That's also why people read car magazines (or at least I did). Three years ago I was approached by Zoom magazine to do a feature article and the ONLY reason why I'm thinking of keeping it a secret is because of the readers being locals and potentially making the car a thief magnet for its parts rather than for the car itself (who really wants an old man's luxury sedan as it's marketed here in Australia?)
That's just my opinion but Diesel, it's up to you if you want to make a write up on this. I'm only curious myself but I'm sure there are many here who would be keen to find out how you went about it and perhaps even find ways to refine (assuming there is any room for improvement at all) the process? This is how great ideas come to life, not by saying that you will "maybe, maybe not" contribute to the community which gathers for the continued effort to keep the 3rd gen in the limelight and improve it in ways that would make any Maximaniac get a massive boner in their pants! <--- That's my sperm going nuts over the thought of my project finally reaching completion and hopefully someone else who would like to do the same!
Heheh. Nevertheless, it's good to see there are others out there who do believe in breaking the rules but more importantly, actually go through with breaking them! Kudos to you dude.
Yes, a write up IS going to be a ***** but I'm determined to do one because this sort of information SHOULD be shared. I won't say must, as that is being overbearing, but to say to this community that I've done something with no intention to sell the idea off or whatnot, I think it is the fair thing to do. Not everybody is going to go to the length and expense I have to hopefully achieve what I've aimed for. But it would definitely be nice to know how it was all done in case somebody would like to do the same and maybe even just one small aspect is all that somebody wants to know to do something else which may not necessarily involve turbocharging the vehicle. I'm even getting rid of the NOS because we're going to gain some more low-end torque without having to pump in another 50hp shot of the old happy gas.
Each to their own but in my opinion, sure it might take a long time to do a write up but think of what you're contributing as opposed to just displaying. I see it as a means of giving back to the community what I've gained. I suppose diesel feels hard done by because he's been called a liar and so on. It's unfortunate and understandable. But my homework involved a lot of interaction with people in the field and more importantly, Matt93SE and Kaleb especially from my humble beginnings with the 4DSC BBS and then some from some other guys there too. If it wasn't for the Maximaniac community, I would not have known about Level 10's 600hp auto which I have in my 3rd gen. If it wasn't for the Maximaniac community, I would have been flying pretty blind in this project but to even source components which are hard to find for improved performance and reliability, I feel it's my duty to give something back and credit where credit is due too.
Why? Because that's why people come here. That's also why people read car magazines (or at least I did). Three years ago I was approached by Zoom magazine to do a feature article and the ONLY reason why I'm thinking of keeping it a secret is because of the readers being locals and potentially making the car a thief magnet for its parts rather than for the car itself (who really wants an old man's luxury sedan as it's marketed here in Australia?)
That's just my opinion but Diesel, it's up to you if you want to make a write up on this. I'm only curious myself but I'm sure there are many here who would be keen to find out how you went about it and perhaps even find ways to refine (assuming there is any room for improvement at all) the process? This is how great ideas come to life, not by saying that you will "maybe, maybe not" contribute to the community which gathers for the continued effort to keep the 3rd gen in the limelight and improve it in ways that would make any Maximaniac get a massive boner in their pants!
<--- That's my sperm going nuts over the thought of my project finally reaching completion and hopefully someone else who would like to do the same!Heheh. Nevertheless, it's good to see there are others out there who do believe in breaking the rules but more importantly, actually go through with breaking them! Kudos to you dude.
dont mistake a right with a privilege. you dont have the right to know what he did to his car becase you're on the .org.
if you're nice enough and he's nice enough he will give you the privileged info.
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Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
You have got to be joking?!? Your sense of entitlement, arrogance, and overall rudeness is unbelievable. No wonder most people who do serious mods to 3rdGens don't post about it. People like you **** them off / scare them off.
To the thread starter: Fantastic job. You have, IMHO, the pefect Maxima. 3rdGen styling + a VQ. If you ever make it to the dyno, I would love to see your graph.
To the thread starter: Fantastic job. You have, IMHO, the pefect Maxima. 3rdGen styling + a VQ. If you ever make it to the dyno, I would love to see your graph.
i may have come on like a dik but my statment no longer applies now that hes answering questions so disregaurd
lets see some pics of the mounts and what if anything was done to the shift linkage
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Originally Posted by shavedmax
you lost me at hello
dont mistake a right with a privilege. you dont have the right to know what he did to his car becase you're on the .org.
if you're nice enough and he's nice enough he will give you the privileged info.
dont mistake a right with a privilege. you dont have the right to know what he did to his car becase you're on the .org.
if you're nice enough and he's nice enough he will give you the privileged info.
Originally Posted by therealgoon9
How is this *** from down under not banned yet?
the max i expect a full writeup once your car's done, j/k
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Originally Posted by shavedmax
actually if you read his post he makes sense, and he's talking about his car, but its too long so i junped the gun.
the max i expect a full writeup once your car's done, j/k
the max i expect a full writeup once your car's done, j/k
At any rate, I'm glad you took the time to read my lengthy waffle and now understand what I'm driving at.
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Originally Posted by subs1000w
i may have come on like a dik but my statment no longer applies now that hes answering questions so disregaurd
lets see some pics of the mounts and what if anything was done to the shift linkage
lets see some pics of the mounts and what if anything was done to the shift linkage
Oh and Matt, I went for a spin around the block after you left. Soo much quieter. Like a new transmission.
I personaily think a shop Did the swap.. Not to discredit anyone but you seem to have problems answering questions about the swap. You seem to stuble on answering the question about the axels and I seen this thread also where someone made a quote that dont sound like you did it. Witch I dont car Im about to buy a De-k motor Too But its not going into any 3rd gen It going into a 4th gen oh yeah only weights 3007lb stock.
Why get on here and lie to everyone. If you did not do it you could just have told us who did so we could contact them. Witch it dont matter realy to me how to get it in a 3rd gen as im going to put one in a fourth gen direct fit.
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...64&postcount=6
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...64&postcount=6
Originally Posted by 93turbo gxe
I personaily think a shop Did the swap.. Not to discredit anyone but you seem to have problems answering questions about the swap. You seem to stuble on answering the question about the axels and I seen this thread also where someone made a quote that dont sound like you did it. Witch I dont car Im about to buy a De-k motor Too But its not going into any 3rd gen It going into a 4th gen oh yeah only weights 3007lb stock.
Originally Posted by 93turbo gxe
Why get on here and lie to everyone. If you did not do it you could just have told us who did so we could contact them. Witch it dont matter realy to me how to get it in a 3rd gen as im going to put one in a fourth gen direct fit.
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...64&postcount=6
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...64&postcount=6
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This post from that thread is enteresting also....
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...70&postcount=9
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...70&postcount=9
so it's correct to say that neither diiesel21 or bgcease92 actually did work on the car? they bought it to a shop and the shop figured out everything for them? that explains why they don't have much information on the swap what so ever.
Originally Posted by DanNY
so it's correct to say that neither diiesel21 or bgcease92 actually did work on the car? they bought it to a shop and the shop figured out everything for them? that explains why they don't have much information on the swap what so ever.
"Ding Ding Ding Ding" That is what i think has been done...
If i had done something of this cailber to my car i would be more than eager to share the info on it....
yes a talented mechanic physically put in the dek motor We said that in a early post but u guys are acting like we had no part in at all and that is not true.The mechanic didn't have the answer to how was going to do it and new the results were gonna be. we all to work hard and collectively put together to get the answers in figuring out key elements of the car, Which harness to use , what gear box , axels, how to wire the 00vi , iavc where to source all the parts and the break down of the step by step that it took all of us to firgure it out. bgcease and I are pissed that ur guys are trying to discredit us like we just dropped of the engine and that WAS IT . Yes work was done in a shop, but that shop isnt on maxima.org nor did they every do a swap like this before. Starchild doesn't even know what exactly went on for the making of this car. But he knows we all put in work to make this come togethier . bgcease and I can answer all of quewstions bc we were apart of decision and planning process maybe we didn't do as much physicall labor as the mechinac but we were there everyday along the mechanic helping with car for the 3 months when it being pieced togetheir.
This is One of main reason why i dont feel like i need to post any info because all you guyz are acting like we are B.S thinking we didnt do anything or know anything. so try figuring it out yourself (like we did), shm that why no body else who did this befor said anything P.S if you were a really mechanic if won't need a step by step just little help on hard areas like the crossmember and mounts. all of you who asking for more info is basically dont know what you getting into.
This is One of main reason why i dont feel like i need to post any info because all you guyz are acting like we are B.S thinking we didnt do anything or know anything. so try figuring it out yourself (like we did), shm that why no body else who did this befor said anything P.S if you were a really mechanic if won't need a step by step just little help on hard areas like the crossmember and mounts. all of you who asking for more info is basically dont know what you getting into.
Originally Posted by 93turbo gxe
Why get on here and lie to everyone. If you did not do it you could just have told us who did so we could contact them. Witch it dont matter realy to me how to get it in a 3rd gen as im going to put one in a fourth gen direct fit.
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...64&postcount=6
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...64&postcount=6
Yes the work was done at a shop with a very talented mechanic we said that earlier in this thread if you read it maybe you would of caught that. As far just telling you everything in ten seconds it not gonna happen it was long process to get this up and running. Desil and I would like all third gens to do this matter fact do more but we cant just drop are lives to post. we both work full time jobs and are typing this info on hand held devices while at work.
Second if you dont care about how it was done then that fine. We said we are going do a write up on the parts that don't you understand. Gxeturbo when i had my third gen back then i thought your car was cool and wish i could do the same to mine ,but it never harrased you for a write up did you ever post one how to turbe a vg no. Desil and I just wanted something diffrernt for 3rd gen and it was said it couldn't been done and we proved them wrong and now the 3rd gen has all the potential in world now. All we got to figure out is how to take out the abs module and its gonig to be party time.
Third the talented mechnaic who worked on this is no longer in buisness so if your waiting contact info or for his write up I am sorry.
Originally Posted by DanNY
so it's correct to say that neither diiesel21 or bgcease92 actually did work on the car? they bought it to a shop and the shop figured out everything for them? that explains why they don't have much information on the swap what so ever.
P.S if youy have real questions and not b.s comments desil and i we be happy to help you via p.m
thank you and have a nice day.
Originally Posted by bgcease92
him and I spent a lot of time researching this and also along with are talented mechanic . desil was able to stop the doubt that this couldn't be done and also that we wanted prove the doubters wrong
You guys over looked this line maybe ya think this post 14 in this thread
IMO,the whole purpose of the org is to share info that you know about these cars to other people on here that ask the Q's....There are several questions that people have asked you about the swap and you have provided 0 CLEAR answers to them..So this makes some people on here think you didn't have much to do with the swap...Did you think that when you posted this that there wouldn't be a hundred question about the specifics of the swap...Why not share the wealth of info you have on this swap to us that would consider doing it...
first of all both of your writting and spelling skills are seriously lacking. but besides that i think that the biggest problem everybody has is the attitude with which this thread started which was pretty much "F*** you all look what we did on our own", i did read where you cryptically said that you had a talented mechanic help but it was about 4 words and did not mention that he did most of the work, also...
your wording has been interesting throught this entire thread.
i guess all i am saying is that most orgers will say if they had help on a project and usually give props to whoever helped them(regardless of whether or not the helper is on the org) just because it avoids issues like this. and dont think that by doing this you are now org gods, there is no doubt in my mind that matt, jeff or shaved could figure this out on their own. also asking questions doesnt mean that someone doesnt know how to do something they are just smart enough to know that there is more than one right way to do something. now dont take this as though i am saying you guys are frauds i'm sure you put a good deal of time into this but the mechanic issue is throwing up red flags for everybody
no shop volunteered 3 months to get this up and running
Yes work was done in a shop, but that shop isnt on maxima.org
i guess all i am saying is that most orgers will say if they had help on a project and usually give props to whoever helped them(regardless of whether or not the helper is on the org) just because it avoids issues like this. and dont think that by doing this you are now org gods, there is no doubt in my mind that matt, jeff or shaved could figure this out on their own. also asking questions doesnt mean that someone doesnt know how to do something they are just smart enough to know that there is more than one right way to do something. now dont take this as though i am saying you guys are frauds i'm sure you put a good deal of time into this but the mechanic issue is throwing up red flags for everybody
Originally Posted by 93turbo gxe
I personaily think a shop Did the swap.. Not to discredit anyone but you seem to have problems answering questions about the swap. You seem to stuble on answering the question about the axels and I seen this thread also where someone made a quote that dont sound like you did it. Witch I dont car Im about to buy a De-k motor Too But its not going into any 3rd gen It going into a 4th gen oh yeah only weights 3007lb stock.
We don't have any problems answering question i think you have a hard time reading replies in threads. what stumbling? the axels are custom made the the 4th gen tranny is used the the end of the axel that put in to the gear box is from a 4thgen and it was cut in the middle and put togethier withe the 3rd gen axel side that goes into the hub .
So you mean people who go and have someone help work on their car has no knowlegde about their own car? is that what your saying ?bc thats what it sounds like. If so that is such
Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
IMO,the whole purpose of the org is to share info that you know about these cars to other people on here that ask the Q's....There are several questions that people have asked you about the swap and you have provided 0 CLEAR answers to them..So this makes some people on here think you didn't have much to do with the swap...Did you think that when you posted this that there wouldn't be a hundred question about the specifics of the swap...Why not share the wealth of info you have on this swap to us that would consider doing it...
Who cares who did the swap? It's done and it's possible. If they are preparing a write up then I await that.
Here is a clue people. Pissing them off by attacking them, doesn't get them to finish the write up any faster. It looks like there is a few guys that don't really have any interest in this swap that are just irrating them. If you don't have any interest, keep quiet.
Here is a clue people. Pissing them off by attacking them, doesn't get them to finish the write up any faster. It looks like there is a few guys that don't really have any interest in this swap that are just irrating them. If you don't have any interest, keep quiet.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Who cares who did the swap? It's done and it's possible. If they are preparing a write up then I await that.
Here is a clue people. Pissing them off by attacking them, doesn't get them to finish the write up any faster. It looks like there is a few guys that don't really have any interest in this swap that are just irrating them. If you don't have any interest, keep quiet.
Here is a clue people. Pissing them off by attacking them, doesn't get them to finish the write up any faster. It looks like there is a few guys that don't really have any interest in this swap that are just irrating them. If you don't have any interest, keep quiet.
about time somebody gets it. I'm at the point where i don't want make anything now nor say anything. i never said i wanted to be known as a .org God or consider as a big on this forum, i just wanted to show people thing can be done if you put the work in for it, that goes for bgcease and I for the research and the mechanic who made the blueprints into reality . like i said earlier if you are a serious about this and have a real question please feel free to PM me or bgcease