fred

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i bought my brother's 92 ve5 the other night. on my way home, it died. i took off from a stop sign, and about 20 feet after i had the clutch all the way out, it felt like that 'juddering' when you are just taking off, and then it just died. and it wouldnt start again. it turns over fine, but it wont catch. so it is either fuel or spark right? anyone else had this problem? btw it was a rolling stop, and 2nd gear, and grammaing it. i have no idea why it died. i am gonna replace the fuel filter and see what that does. ngk iridium plugs have ~8000 miles on them, if that matters. any help/ideas much appreciated

Greeny

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First thing to do is check the fuel pump,turn the key to the on position,listen for it turning on[it should run for about 3-5 seconds then shut off]

If it is ok then take one of the coilpacks out,stick a sparkplug in it then try to start it while someone is looking for spark...

If there is no spark i would suspect the crank angle sensor being bad...

fred

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yeah the pump runs. crank angle sensor? how hard is that to replace, if that is what it is?

Greeny

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fred

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schweet. is that right what i saw online in a quick search? 500 for a new one?

Greeny

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Yeah they are very expensive new...I would go used for this part...

fred

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good thing one of my buddys has a parts ve.....

Cliff Clavin

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If you don't find one, I have an extra. I have an extra of just about everything, actually. send me a PM.

A lot of references to that part also call it a cam position sensor.

internetautomar

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well it is by the cam

vansskaterfreek

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"camshaft position sensor"

fred

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well turns out that isnt what the problem was. broken timing chain, hole in valve cover. /ve. 225000 miles. RIP

Matt93SE

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from the noises you described, I was going to mention timing chain failure being a likely cause. sorry mang, but that engine is toast. www.car-part.com is your next stop.

VEvolution

What the hell is up with these freakin' chains lately
They seem to be popping more often then VG belts on this forum

89blackse

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You guys aren't making me feel good about my recent VE Maxima purchase. I hope I don't have to go crawling back to my 89 VG any time soon

Greeny

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Buying ANY 12-15 yr old car is always a gamble...

internetautomar

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Try buying a 10 year old car that doesn't even run

Greeny

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Been there,done that..

Jeff92se

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Haven't been there, too smart to do that

Greeny

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I only done it once..

Turned out be a ignition module[ford] Bought it for $250,drove it 2 years,sold it for $800..

internetautomar

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turned out to be a stupid alarm malfunction.
it runs now.

smart is when you buy the car for 1/3 it's TRADE-IN value and sell it for 2x that.

Born83

Is that damage fixable or is it not worth it? What would cause that type of damage?

Greeny

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Most likely what happened to his engine was the vtc end cap exploded,threw pieces of it around inside the chain cover,broke the chain,thus smashing the valves...yada yada...

IMO it is not worth fixing the engine due to the labor and cost involved in fixing the engine....You can find a ve engine in a junkyard for about $400-$800..Swap it out in a day or two,drive happy..vs having to pull the engine[much easier to fix the broken parts with it out],tear the whole top of the engine down,replace the vtc's/chains/most likely the valves/possibly pistons[sometimes valves can crack the top of the pistons when they come together]

Just not worth it to me...

Born83

Thanks for your response. What is a "vtc end cap" and why did it explode? how?

vansskaterfreek

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replace the motor with a JDM.... or i have a motor with 72k miles in new jersey... it just needs a new head gasket..... runs perfect.....

vansskaterfreek

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when the VTC's click, they usually need to be replaced sooner or later, or the end cap will explode...... it is just a poor design from nissan......thats why they went to the cheaper made VQ engine instead of the VE

Born83

got it, thanks

geoff.doctor

You can add my old 93 VE5 to the list of cars that has done that. From the service records it happened about four years ago, and had an engine with 60K put in to replace it. Now it happened again, with only 110K on the new engine. VTCs were ticking, but nothing too loud. The guy is putting another engine in it, 3 different engines in 223K miles. Now my 92 VE AT had 270K when I sold it on the original engine/tranny with no VTC tick. Weird...

internetautomar

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not wierd.
it's the reason I prefer high mileage to low mileage.
low mileage cars normally don't recieve the same maintenance level a high mileage car does.
and on the VTCs the car needs to be running for a while to help keep the oil from gumming up the passages, something you normally won't find in a low mileage car.

fred

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sorry to revive a dead thread, but just wanted to show a little bit of the damage. (a very small bit)[IMG][/IMG]

DigitalMaxima90

that looks terrible. is that part of the block.

xavier27

wow ive seen that before. not good

fred

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it the valve cover and what you see is half of the chain inside there.