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Old 10-30-2006, 08:53 AM
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What's this hanging from the dash??

What the hell is this thing?

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Old 10-30-2006, 08:59 AM
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That is the diagnostic port, with what looks like an adaptor to let it connect to a parallel or serial port on a computer.


This a pic of your car I assume? Can we get some history?
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Sure. The history is we got it about four months ago. I have no idea, nor did the dealer, as to what it is. I have no idea on the history of the car. It's got 160k, the auto is slipping in overdrive, gas is leaking everywhere and there are rust spots on numerous body panels. Thinking about getting a different one, now, with a standard, and taking the good parts from this one and putting it on the other. Anyway, so did someone (like a service guy) possibly leave this thing unintentionally in here?
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Originally Posted by '90_Maxima
Sure. The history is we got it about four months ago. I have no idea, nor did the dealer, as to what it is. I have no idea on the history of the car. It's got 160k, the auto is slipping in overdrive, gas is leaking everywhere and there are rust spots on numerous body panels. Thinking about getting a different one, now, with a standard, and taking the good parts from this one and putting it on the other. Anyway, so did someone (like a service guy) possibly leave this thing unintentionally in here?
Yeah, that is not a good example of a 3rd gen you have there. I would do as you have stated above.

My guess is that a service tech hooked it up as some point to maybe read something about your auto slipping and just left that adaptor connected.

ODB-1 isn’t good for much from what I hear, so I wouldn’t worry about it, just tuck it up inside the dash where it belongs.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:23 AM
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Yeah, that is not a good example of a 3rd gen you have there. I would do as you have stated above.

My guess is that a service tech hooked it up as some point to maybe read something about your auto slipping and just left that adaptor connected.

ODB-1 isn’t good for much from what I hear, so I wouldn’t worry about it, just tuck it up inside the dash where it belongs.
K. So if I get from an '89-'92, will everything pretty much be interchangable?
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Originally Posted by '90_Maxima
K. So if I get from an '89-'92, will everything pretty much be interchangable?
I think the 92-94 SE models have the VE engine and its transmission is different too, so keep that in mind.

Interior wise, yeah everything should swap over (but not the radio trim bezel if one car has the single din Bose and the other has the double din) and there are some other subtle things like ABS, and driver side airbag which may not be on all models.

If you have any questions just ask the board before hand and we will help you out.

Oh and avoid the VG engine automatics like Michael Moore avoids a shower.
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Originally Posted by 89blackse
I think the 92-94 SE models have the VE engine and its transmission is different too, so keep that in mind.

Interior wise, yeah everything should swap over (but not the radio trim bezel if one car has the single din Bose and the other has the double din) and there are some other subtle things like ABS, and driver side airbag which may not be on all models.

If you have any questions just ask the board before hand and we will help you out.

Oh and avoid the VG engine automatics like Michael Moore avoids a shower.
Okay,
The interior (Seats, dash etc) is mint. I would like to (most likely) put these, as well as any options the SE will be without (cruise control, power mirrors etc) and I hear you when you say that all of that (should) switch out from any Maxima '89-'94.

Now, even though the engine has 160k (I have no idea whether or not its' been rebuilt) it runs perfect. It burns no oil, there is no lifter noise, etc. So, I'd like to have that as a spare engine. If I get a '92-'94, then I can't use the '90 model engine if the '92-'94 engine goes out. Am I correct?

btw, thank you a lot for helping me out here. I want to do the best I can for this car.
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Old 10-30-2006, 12:49 PM
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I know my 94 has 93 and 94 parts plus some other interesting discoveries each time I work on it. I have had it for 7 years now and am just now having to start playing the replace and repair game with some minor parts. At the moment though I am trying to locate some body parts. My car was backed into and I was not there to catch it.
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Originally Posted by '90_Maxima
If I get a '92-'94, then I can't use the '90 model engine if the '92-'94 engine goes out. Am I correct?
89-91 all Maxima's have the VG30E + Manual or Auto Transmission

89-94 GXE Maxima's have the VG30E + Auto only

92-94 SE Maxima's have the VE30DE + Auto or Manual

If the 92-94 is a GXE with the VG30E engine it will work with the '90 model engine.

But to be honest most VG motors are tanks and will run for as long as the (auto FTL) transmission will let the engine run. Mine has an average 201k miles and should last much longer.

If you want to stick with the VG engine, which is NOT A BAD choice then just get another 89-91 SE with the five speed, and swap over what you want and keep the car you have now incase you do blow the engine somehow.





Then think about doing turbo....
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:03 PM
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To be precise that is an adapter from a snap-on scanner that someone left connected to your consult port, just pull it off
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It's your Consult port with someones adapter which they are mighty pissed about losing.
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what would someone use this adapter for?
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Old 11-07-2006, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by khemraj1999
what would someone use this adapter for?
to use a scan tool odb1
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Originally Posted by Sevorg1
to use a scan tool odb1
The scan tool it's for is both OBDI and OBDII compliant
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Old 11-07-2006, 05:59 PM
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Thank you.

....can I get something for it on ebay, you think?
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Old 11-07-2006, 07:24 PM
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maybe...
I doubt more than $5 unless it is someone who needs it.
of course if bought new:
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....&group_ID=1355
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Old 11-08-2006, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 89blackse
89-91 all Maxima's have the VG30E + Manual or Auto Transmission

89-94 GXE Maxima's have the VG30E + Auto only

92-94 SE Maxima's have the VE30DE + Auto or Manual

If the 92-94 is a GXE with the VG30E engine it will work with the '90 model engine.

But to be honest most VG motors are tanks and will run for as long as the (auto FTL) transmission will let the engine run. Mine has an average 201k miles and should last much longer.

If you want to stick with the VG engine, which is NOT A BAD choice then just get another 89-91 SE with the five speed, and swap over what you want and keep the car you have now incase you do blow the engine somehow.





Then think about doing turbo....
Also, please note that Federal Emission standards prevent you from installing an engine that is older than the body you put it in. The car must conform to the emission standards in place the year of manufacture and by installing an older engine, your car will no longer meet those standards. Even if the engine wasn't changed from 90 to 92. It's retarded, but that's the EPA for you.

So, if you buy a car and want to use your 90 VG engine as a back-up, make sure your new car is an 89 or 90.

My personal vote is to sell your Maxima and find a nice, reliable SE model with a 5-speed. I have a 92 VE 5-speed and I love it.
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Old 11-08-2006, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix
...but that's the EPA for you.
I live in Kentucky, so those thoughts never enter my mind. lol.

Speaking of which my grandma lives in Poquoson VA which is pretty close to Norfolk. I'll be up there some time soon to borrow her Ford Contour for the winter (she is in assisted living.) Maybe we can meet up and say hi.
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Originally Posted by Phoenix
that's the EPA for you.
Exactly why we don't have mid-sized diesel pickup trucks that get 40+ mpg like some other countries do. Its absolute BS...
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
Exactly why we don't have mid-sized diesel pickup trucks that get 40+ mpg like some other countries do. Its absolute BS...
Dude, have you been to those "other" countries' cities? Just walking around the block makes you wanna choke on all the diesel fumes and smoke and grim. Not to mention all the extra noise.

They are making a trade between using physically less gas and increasing emissions.
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Originally Posted by Phoenix
Also, please note that Federal Emission standards prevent you from installing an engine that is older than the body you put it in. The car must conform to the emission standards in place the year of manufacture and by installing an older engine, your car will no longer meet those standards. Even if the engine wasn't changed from 90 to 92. It's retarded, but that's the EPA for you.
Care to find me that statute?
I know Illinois states in the EPA handbook that we can use any motor we want as long as it still meets the emission requirements of the car it was installed in.
so yes we can legally do an s-10 V8 swap or even a Big Block into a chevette as long as we tune it to pass the test. That is intelligent testing IMO, beats the he|| out of some other states policies
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
maybe...
I doubt more than $5 unless it is someone who needs it.
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Hmm...maybe I will...


It was my understanding that diesels are actually easier on the environment than gasoline engines. It's just the soot flying around in the air that makes it damn unbearable in third world countries, unless you really like the smell of diesel....which I know I'm in the minority...but I do.
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Originally Posted by '90_Maxima
Hmm...maybe I will...


It was my understanding that diesels are actually easier on the environment than gasoline engines. It's just the soot flying around in the air that makes it damn unbearable in third world countries, unless you really like the smell of diesel....which I know I'm in the minority...but I do.
Yup it's the soot that makes people think diesels pollute
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Yup it's the soot that makes people think diesels pollute
Well Diesels do have much more sulfur in the fuel than conventional. Soot is developed because of unburned fuel. Unburned fuel + Sulfur in atmosphere = pollution.
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soot doesn't stay in the atmosphere, it falls to the ground.
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
soot doesn't stay in the atmosphere, it falls to the ground.
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Perhaps I was wrong saying Federal Emission Standards, maybe it was a state law. I would strongly advise the original poster to research the legality of a swap as such in his home state of Texas before trying anything, though.
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Originally Posted by 89blackse
I live in Kentucky, so those thoughts never enter my mind. lol.

Speaking of which my grandma lives in Poquoson VA which is pretty close to Norfolk. I'll be up there some time soon to borrow her Ford Contour for the winter (she is in assisted living.) Maybe we can meet up and say hi.
Yeah, fo sho.

Poquoson's just across the Elizabeth River, I actually looked at some places up there. The commute's the only thing that concerned me. I'll PM you with contact info if you want to drop me a line when you come this way.
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It was my understanding that modern diesels are quiet and hardly produce any soot, pollution, etc... And they're still GREAT on mileage 40+ MPG. Europe so happens to only see the cool diesel cars. And the modern ones aren't so slow. Audi obliterated everyone in the past Le Mans with their Diesel version R8 cars.
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Originally Posted by Dhunterx
It was my understanding that modern diesels are quiet and hardly produce any soot, pollution, etc... And they're still GREAT on mileage 40+ MPG. Europe so happens to only see the cool diesel cars. And the modern ones aren't so slow. Audi obliterated everyone in the past Le Mans with their Diesel version R8 cars.
Yeah, Very modern diesels, as in this year and up.

Yesterday (1 June) marked the beginning of the phased-in implementation of EPA’s Clean Air Highway Diesel final rule that requires a 97% reduction in the sulfur content of highway diesel fuel from its current level of 500 parts per million (ppm) to 15 ppm. EPA estimates that this new diesel fuel will cost an additional 4 to 5 cents per gallon to produce and to distribute.
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