This guy is an idiot.
Originally Posted by 94maxshima
Was reading an article from Comsumerreports.org earlier...
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
well ok... if that's really from them, then I'm not gonna argue that. they're the ones who'd know... i've had better luck with my max than my brother has had with his newer, lower-miles Camry. he's paid the car's value twice, once to buy it, another time to fix it after it kept breaking. major breaks too, to where he's had it towed a time or two.
It's a never ending process
Originally Posted by 94maxshima
Yeah... I guess a lot has to do with appeal too. Toyota's never really did anything for me, the V6 Camry's that competed with the Max's back in the day were just kinda blah, even when I see a nice one... Nissan has always been good at that I think, and they do make an exceptional product in my book... the VG/VQ Engines are EXTREMELY good engines along with several of the older 4 cylinders. Hell... I'd take my Max over any Ford (within reason) Anyday... just because I love it. But I know for a fact Ford's aren't crap and I gotta back it up. Just like when the guys over on the f150 forum bash the titans
It's a never ending process
It's a never ending process
just think how much less he'd have spent if he let me do more on his car... he's just scared about it. and look what it's cost him. I told him to ask for a manual when his auto shredded itself. but he's a loser and won't touch a stickshift with a 10 foot pole. i'll get him in mine once i swap.. eventually
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Originally Posted by 94maxshima
Was reading an article from Comsumerreports.org earlier...
Excerpt:
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You should also take into consideration that ford has been making cars for over 100 years, where as nissan/datsun has been making them for half that or even less in the US
But with that said, there is no one manufacturer that has a perfect reliability rating, as said earlier its all about personal prefernce and appeal. We all obviously find the Maximas appealing to us or we would not be here.
Originally Posted by 94maxshima
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THE JAPANESE MYTH
Honda and Toyota are lauded for their reliability and have built a number of high-rated models, including 7 of our 10 Top Picks. But we found that not all Japanese cars excel.
“Honda and Toyota are really on a pedestal,” says James Rubenstein, an automotive analyst at Miami University, in Oxford, Ohio. But other Japanese makers, such as Nissan, Mazda, and Mitsubishi, have struggled to build high-quality cars consistently.
Nissan’s lineup, on average, actually scores above Toyota’s in CR’s tests, 75 vs. 70. Nissan also produces several of the most reliable cars in our SURVEY, including Infiniti sedans. But three Nissans--the Armada,Titan, and Infiniti QX56--were among models with the most reliability problems in our SURVEY; all are made in the same plant in Canton, Miss. Ford vehicles, in comparison, have slightly better reliability in our SURVEY than cars from Nissan.
Mazda vehicles test well, but reliability has been hit-or-miss. For example, it took several years for all versions of the Mazda6 to come up to average reliability. The average Mitsubishi scores only a 60 in CR’s testing and has average reliability. Mitsubishi’s Eclipse sports coupe scored too low in our road tests for us to recommend it. Though every manufacturer has recalls, even Toyota has taken some heat over its 10 recalls of 657,000 vehicles in the past year, although that is not a factor in our reliability Ratings.
Honda and Toyota are lauded for their reliability and have built a number of high-rated models, including 7 of our 10 Top Picks. But we found that not all Japanese cars excel.
“Honda and Toyota are really on a pedestal,” says James Rubenstein, an automotive analyst at Miami University, in Oxford, Ohio. But other Japanese makers, such as Nissan, Mazda, and Mitsubishi, have struggled to build high-quality cars consistently.
Nissan’s lineup, on average, actually scores above Toyota’s in CR’s tests, 75 vs. 70. Nissan also produces several of the most reliable cars in our SURVEY, including Infiniti sedans. But three Nissans--the Armada,Titan, and Infiniti QX56--were among models with the most reliability problems in our SURVEY; all are made in the same plant in Canton, Miss. Ford vehicles, in comparison, have slightly better reliability in our SURVEY than cars from Nissan.
Mazda vehicles test well, but reliability has been hit-or-miss. For example, it took several years for all versions of the Mazda6 to come up to average reliability. The average Mitsubishi scores only a 60 in CR’s testing and has average reliability. Mitsubishi’s Eclipse sports coupe scored too low in our road tests for us to recommend it. Though every manufacturer has recalls, even Toyota has taken some heat over its 10 recalls of 657,000 vehicles in the past year, although that is not a factor in our reliability Ratings.
Who's to say their survey is even close to real world results?
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From: Austin
I know this thread has gone way off topic but.... I work in a shop and in all honesty it seems that most trucks domestic and foreign seem to be failry reliable and should make it to 200K without any major issues. Domestic sedans on the other hand...... Lets put it this way I had a '90 Honda Accord that I traded in with 199,996 miles and it still ran and drove great. Only things replaced were CV joints, and a timing belt. Don't ask why but I got a Malibu. In the one year I had it the dealer replaced 2 power windows, starter, fuel sending unit, A/C control unit, 2 sets of struts and at 39K miles the motor was pulled. Some people say oh u must have got a lemon. We get V6 GM sedans all the time for motor work. Usualy a bad lower intake gasket causing oil and coolant to mix. Chryslers cars (not trucks) almost always issues with the power windows, ac, or transmission. And by the way the only thing I miss about the Malibu is that since it was at the dealer getting fixed all the time I don't get to drive nice new rentals anymore.
Originally Posted by mtcookson
How about CR's reliability?
Who's to say their survey is even close to real world results?
Who's to say their survey is even close to real world results?
There's no point in arguing which cars are best in a Nissan Maxima site. Its like beating a dead horse, but thanks dude from florida for that article. I didn't know that.
CR is a biased magazine, they've screwed us several times before with what were supposed to be reliable products, turns out long term they weren't.
But to put some reality in the ford argument.
Ford FWDs are the problem, The Trucks are actually fairly durable. which if you read back through this arguement is what is being said. The taurus/contour/escorts are being called unreliable and the trucks are being called durable.
But to put some reality in the ford argument.
Ford FWDs are the problem, The Trucks are actually fairly durable. which if you read back through this arguement is what is being said. The taurus/contour/escorts are being called unreliable and the trucks are being called durable.
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From: Austin
My friend has 2 Consumer reports annual books on his desk. It is funny if you read about a couple of cars they are rated a Consumer Report Best Buy. But then when you look at the details of the car in the back of the book some of them said the "Best Buy" vehicle had higher than average cooling, braking and electrical problems.... SO don't assume CR's word is good as gold.
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