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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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I dont know what brand of HID kit I should get. There are so many and what tempature should I get it. I was lookin at the 8000k but Im not sure. What do you guys have on your cars?
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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i have the factory Nissan Murano's H.I.D.'s with 12000k D2S Bulbs. they work fine for me but im still tryin' to finish my E60 projectors retrofit into my E36 headlights so that i can use the 4300k Bulbs instead.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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don't put hid's in stock head lights or even the after-market headlights. they will cause hella glare and blind on coming traffic and the output wont increase except for the color. do a projector retrofit. and stick with 4300k OEM color which is true white with a blue line along the cut off line (the flicker u see from bmw's) make an account at HIDPLANET.COM read up some and you'll be good to go. but PLEASE don't put them in your headlights. as for color temp never go above 6000k 4300-6000k is white-very faint blue. 8000k-1200k will eb too blue/purple. suck in the rain snow or fog and give u issues with the

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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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can't you just buy aftermarket e36 headlights with projectors and then go HID from there?
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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yes you can but the H7 or H1 projectors found in either the zkw or depo e36 headlights are not ment for hids and produce some hot spots. there are 2 routes to choose to do it properly. retrofit a bixenon projector into our aftermarket headlight for our cars (keeping the curves smooth) projectors: TL, FX35, G35, E55, E46, porche projectors. Or buy depo/zkw projector e36 lights and put in TSX, ZKW, or E55-single xenon projectors

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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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sorry but i lost u
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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sorry but i lost u
projectors are the things that look like glass eyes. they are way better at making light go where it needs to.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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i know that but i figured the aftermarket e36 with projectors would work
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by heresmymind
don't put hid's in stock head lights or even the after-market headlights. they will cause hella glare and blind on coming traffic and the output wont increase except for the color. do a projector retrofit. and stick with 4300k OEM color which is true white with a blue line along the cut off line (the flicker u see from bmw's) make an account at HIDPLANET.COM read up some and you'll be good to go. but PLEASE don't put them in your headlights. as for color temp never go above 6000k 4300-6000k is white-very faint blue. 8000k-1200k will eb too blue/purple. suck in the rain snow or fog and give u issues with the

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i agree with most of this...

Originally Posted by heresmymind
do a projector retrofit. and stick with 4300k OEM color which is true white with a blue line along the cut off line (the flicker u see from bmw's)
this is somewhat misleading as most projectors will need to be color modded in order to achieve the blue/purple color above the cut off.
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:35 AM
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i haven't seen all of these personally, so correct me if i'm wrong. this is based on some output pics that i've seen posted on various forums. i think the output goes something like this (from worst to best)...

stock maxima
stock e36
stock maxima with 9007 conversion
e36 euro projectors
stock e36 with 9005 in low beams
stock e36 with 9012 hir bulbs
stock maxima with 9004 hid kit
e36 projectors with hid kit
retrofit with oem hid projectors

this is based on output only. obviously, reflector based < projector based
all of the reflector based solutions would have to be aimed lower
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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stock maxima with hid kit is worst then the e36 euro projectors with halogens><, yes most will need to be color modded to make a major color show. but most projectors have a small blue cutoff stock.
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by heresmymind
stock maxima with hid kit is worst then the e36 euro projectors with halogens><, yes most will need to be color modded to make a major color show. but most projectors have a small blue cutoff stock.
obviously, stock maxima lights with an hid kit will be bad. everyone agrees on this. the glare will be terrible.

you obviously didn't read my post where it stated the list was on output only...as in lumens

are you trying to say that an hid kit on stock maxima lights will put out less lumens than e36 projectors with halogens?
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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yes. the output will be so badly defused that the light will be so scattered that the lm of them 15ft down the road will be horrible. the halogen projectors are much better
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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HID means the whole thing.

There the Projector, HID bulb, and ballast and some wiring, thats what makes it "HID". Just having a projector wont give you "HID's"

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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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HID means the whole thing.

There the Projector, HID bulb, and ballast and some wiring, thats what makes it "HID". Just having a projector wont give you "HID's"

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not true there are STOCK reflector hids. HID stands for high intensity discharge refering to the bulb and ballast. Lexus, Mercedes, and other cars use reflector HIDs, including a 01 maxima. :-p
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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ah ok. But my point is there are 2 main parts to an HID system. A projector just optimizes the output...

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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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Im thinkin about just goin with the euro clear headlights but I was lookin into teh E36 headlights and I saw some on ebay with LED's http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-98...spagenameZWDVW Would you beable to use the LED's or is it just better off getting the regular E36 headlights.
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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ok, its me your buddy! 8000k is your best bet. Its blue and purple mix...yummmm, love ya buddy
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by maxima_man1992
Im thinkin about just goin with the euro clear headlights but I was lookin into teh E36 headlights and I saw some on ebay with LED's http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-98...spagenameZWDVW Would you beable to use the LED's or is it just better off getting the regular E36 headlights.
did u mean use HID instead of LED?
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by heresmymind
yes. the output will be so badly defused that the light will be so scattered that the lm of them 15ft down the road will be horrible. the halogen projectors are much better
oops, i reread my post from last night...the "maxima with 9004 hid kit" was supposed to be with the euro clear lenses, not stock fluted lenses
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 01:32 AM
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ok, its me your buddy! 8000k is your best bet. Its blue and purple mix...yummmm, love ya buddy
Are you kidding? 8000k is not t hat much brighter than halogen and will b purple blue = illgal. i wouldnt go over 6000k . if you do u may as well hit az and get some blue bulbs and call it a day.
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 02:43 AM
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those ebay lights are garbage. plastic lenses, bad projectors. and ugle IMO, buy DEPO or ZKW glass lensed e36's. depo use h7 and zkw use h1
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by heresmymind
those ebay lights are garbage. plastic lenses, bad projectors. and ugle IMO, buy DEPO or ZKW glass lensed e36's. depo use h7 and zkw use h1
Hello fellow hidplanetuser lol. Yes the ebay lights suck. Depo does make a better light alltogether but still not that much of an improvemnt over stock. If you want good lighting you are going to have to retro in some xenon projectors.
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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A customer at out shop bought some projectors for his Mustang off ebay for like 75.00 for the pair. We installed them and they had a almost perfect cutoff. Wish I knew which seller or brand they were.
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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just an fyi. HID retrofits are not currently considered legal by the DOT anymore.
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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I wonder why. Is it because people are not aiming them properly and blinding other drivers? I would think better light output would be wanted for safety's sake.
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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:dunno: alot of lighting products are being made illegal for sale period.
even the disclaimer "for off road use only" is no longer acceptable.
it'll take some time before it all filters down.
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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:dunno: alot of lighting products are being made illegal for sale period.
even the disclaimer "for off road use only" is no longer acceptable.
it'll take some time before it all filters down.
agreed. but then again its hard to prove some things are retros cause of how easy it is to swap in a hid projector into an ebay headlight:-p and look 100$ stock
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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figure that states with inspections will fail cars for it.
the law is now that anyone importing automotive lighting must be DOT certified as well now. so expect alot of ebay sellers to stop selling lights.
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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oh and i might add. a 9007 bulb swap. and even the stock bmw e36 light conversion is illegal. as for most inspections they just check the aiming on them.
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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that sucks but i see what you are talking about. There is a Ford Ranger running around here with HID in the stock housings. The are blinding but if you look the light hardly hits the ground. I have been driving my Maxima for a month now and I recently drove my 4Runner the other night. After getting back in the Max I noticed "wow the headlights really do suck."
Old May 21, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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I'm doing a TSX low beam and S2000 high beam retrofit. I'll post pics when I finish...
Old Aug 6, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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Where Can I buy a e36 headlight assy from? What type of bulbs will come in it. Trying to get my lights kinda similar to the newer maximas lighting.
Old Aug 6, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by maxinout93
Where Can I buy a e36 headlight assy from?
Maybe from an E36?

Anyway, IIRC they're 9005 and 9006's (been so long since I did mine but I'm pretty sure they're 9005/9006). You have to re-wire the Maxima harnesses to fit the 9005 and 9006 bulbs
Old Aug 6, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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Unless u wanna do ur own project or want projectors/angel eyes I suggest a bi-xenon conversion kit. If you do e36 set up you gotta source the brackets (ain't easy) that aren't made anymore.


Btw James I still haven't got my flickering issue solved yet. They're sending me another wire harness. This after replacement ballast and bulbs. Hopefully this is it.
Old Aug 7, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by James92SE
Maybe from an E36?

Anyway, IIRC they're 9005 and 9006's (been so long since I did mine but I'm pretty sure they're 9005/9006). You have to re-wire the Maxima harnesses to fit the 9005 and 9006 bulbs

I see they have a pair on ebay for $164, is it worth it to spend this on headlights?
Old Aug 7, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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I see they have a pair on ebay for $164, is it worth it to spend this on headlights?
If you can do a clean/flush install, then sure

I've got probably 4 times that much in my headlights but I built them back when all that stuff was still really expensive
Old Aug 7, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by James92SE
If you can do a clean/flush install, then sure

I've got probably 4 times that much in my headlights but I built them back when all that stuff was still really expensive

Well I guess it would look kool, but I may just get those on ebay and worry about installing them later, once I take care of some other external issues with the car.
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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i suggest you purchase the REAL Euro spec E36 headlights since they come with projectors already installed. or just do the J30 dual projector retrofit instead. just don't buy those fugly looking e36 aftermarket projector headlights.
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LMAO! They are fugly.
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