MAX420

Well guys, close friend of the family bought another mustang ( after wreckin a 90 fox body ,90 convertable, a 95 gt, and a 98 Cobra all of which were totaled ) and challeged me to a run cause he always see's me running around speeding, well right now i have my 93 GXE, but as soon as i get my 92SE, would i have a chance or should i just avoid him for as long as i can ? i might swap the Eibach/Tok setup , FSTB, and a JWT intake....Hope the results favor me, lol but i doubt it, thanks

~Adreis

Mr. Rose

Take him to the track and show him what's up! I have a 97 COBRA. VE's hang for a while, however 5.0s don't last past second gear stock against a VE.

MAX420

LOL Mr. Rose your exactly who im looking for, before i go on, thanks for the reply. Well before i run with the 01 Gt, i think i will have a PR CAI, JWT ECU, WSP Y pipe, UDP, and maybe NOS considering the mileage on the car i dont know if im going to go with the NOS if so then it might be a 60 Shot or so. So how would a VE with JWT POP hang with a 90 5.0 with , off raod long tube headers, Flo masters, Cobra Upper/lower intake, 3:73 gears, Ractive Intake, pullies,and a short shifter. Just wondering cause this run is going to be for sure and done ASAP..My GXE would get killed off the line till about 30 - 40 then it would gain equal length till like 80 then once again get killed , i mean big time killed....lol thanks a lot for your time and patience.

~Adreis

Jon91SE

92 SE vs 2001 5 spd GT......... !!!!

MAX420

Max91se, lol am i really gonna get burned that bad? seriously i dont want to wait and find out better yet embarrass myself....

Weasel

iTrader: (2)

Yes, yes you are. The '01s have something like 280hp not to mention the inherent RWD launch advantage. They run 14 flat in the quarter completely stock.

Jeff91SE

GT, correct?

Youll get spanked, even with the VE 5spd. I dont even now why a 3rd Gen GXE and a new Stang GT are even mentioned in the same sentance.

MAX420

No Jeff, my GXE had a run with a stock fox body 5.0 , a 90' i believe, so even with the MODS i mentioned i wouldnt have a chance ?

Jon91SE

a 90 5.0 is a hella lot different then a new stang, older un-modded fox bodys arent too fast.........

Soon2BMaxed

dude NO WAY, theres no way in he11 u could win that. mustangs ARE fords and ford DOES suck but that doesn't mean they aren't fast. come on dude, with those mods u MIGHT be in the high 14s (like 14.9s) if u r a good driver and these things will run low low low 14s STOCK. just get hella boost THEN show him whats up......

Jeff91SE

A couple of my friends have 5.0s. Were talking manuals here... One ran a 14.8 with 3.73 gears and the other a 15.1 with 3.23. The 14.8 was a GT and the 15.1 was an LX. Theyre still quick and easily modified.

An auto is a different case...

FroMan

i think you need to take a step back and realize that nissans are not gods of the road and maximas aren't that quick.

Considering that most of the VE's on the road suffer from an annoying ticking problem they are dead in the water....

Fro

MAX420

Lol i know that Nissans aren't gods of the road, i was just curious, didn't know....sorry to cause such disturbance

PrinzII

iTrader: (2)

A Maxima, especially a VE, is not going to have enough torque to get off the line to counter a Mustang whether it is a 5.0 or a 4.6. God forbid he has a 3.73 because he is going to absolutely murder you on takeoff. Then on top of that, the 4.6 is known to make some nice midrange power and would seriously rip you to shreds.

Cobra? Fogeddaboutit! The chancees of you beating a Cobra with a VE (even with nitrous and supercharger) are the same as you trying to race a WS-6 Trans Am. You will get blown very far into the weeds.

I know I might get flamed for this, but I don't want a fellow Max owner to bite off more than he/she can chew.

MAX420

I know I might get flamed for this, but I don't want a fellow Max owner to bite off more than he/she can chew. [/B][/QUOTE]

Thats exactly why i came on the board to find out how I would do against it, i dont want to be embarrassed .....Thanks for all your help guy

Mr. Rose

99+ GT 5spds are running 14.0s @100mph stock these days. I know a guy that has 3:73 gears and a filter on his 2kGT. he ran a 13.5 @101 with some practice. Most of the GT owners average a low 14.0-14.4 @100mph.

Now for 5.0s, that is a TQ motor and it revs fast due to such a short stroke. That motor is in the neighborhood of 240-250 HP with 285-300TQ with what he has added.
With those gears he'll be busy shifting, and he'll get quite a jump on you. you need to hang as close as possible till half track to make it close at the finish line. I'd say all the bolt ons for you, you might just edge it out!

I don't promote street racing, SO I have to say take it to the track for sure. However, Definatley your MAXIMA has the passing power on the highway. *couch* keep it off the streets!

Mr. Rose

99-2001 = 260hp brother. And wayyyyyy heavier than an old 5.0.
Only 45HP more and it weighs 550 lbs more on average. YUK.

MAX420

LOL im happy now, im going to be looking into this 93 SE 5sp tomorrow, It has all the options but has 95K on the motor. He's asking 5200 neg. What do you Guys think i should offer if it turns out to be a okay car? I has leather, sunroof, Cd, and everything else. Anything i should look out for besides the VTC problem ? Well hopefully after this purchase im going to be recieving a 97 TT supra as a graduation Gift from my grandfather. I will be looking forward to that gift but mean while i am looking to buy this SE max, so anyone with suggestions please feel free to comment and help out, Thanks again for everyones input and time.

~Adreis

Mr. Rose

With a reprogrammed ECU, RAM AIR, Adjustable FPR, pulllies, OFF road Intkae, shif kit, 4:30s gearing and track tuned suspension. I could barely muster a 13.5 @105mph in my 97 COBRA. the problem was lack of traction, BEAST of a weight number (3700 with me and gas) and the fact that the 32V 4 camm motor just revs to the moon as soon as you open up the throttle. I gave many a 5.0 an emberrasment with less displacement and more weight at the track. even took my share of heavily upgraded LT1s and I actually got one LS1 on the street( when I was an idiot and still racing on the streets).

All I can say that driving many 5.0s, and having the opportunity to run against many. IT takes about $4000 for a 5.0 to be decent, and another $3000 to be fun. Needless to say it is still a FORD.
http://home.satx.rr.com/jasonr/Cobra.html

DA-MAX

iTrader: (10)

if I were you I'd keep your current Max...and save up some loot for that TT Supra!! there will always be other Maxs around, and if your grandfather indeed buys you the Supra, you'll have money for...*drumroll*....MODS!!! and if he doesn't buy it for 'ya, just search like hell for another VE 5spd...thats what I would do!

FroMan

have you heard anything yet about the next idderation of the 'stang Jason?

I'd be curious if they would try to bring back the 5.0, but based off of the new doch motor??

Mario

Mr. Rose

Yeah I'm up to date on the MUSTANG "future". And yes I do like the looks of a stang. Short wheel based and boxy looks; they still have a major draw from the past. Something I never liked about the Camaro or Firebird. After 69-70 those cars never looked like a Camaro or Bird ever again, and still don't. If GM decides to "RETRO" the look instead of kill the breed, then I might be saying otherwose.
However...
...I've done my American citizen Duty by giving at least one DOMESTIC car a good home in my lifetime.

I pray I will not be swayed or bedazled to buy another one. I've done my part. Now I'm moving on.

Back to GERMAN engeneering and Japanese longjevity!

MAX420

As far as saving up for the Supra, i dont think i needthat much, im going to get 5K cash when i graduate from my parents, but the VE5sp, ah man i really wanted one of these BADLY! so i gotta see whats up with the one im intrested in, Anyone know what i should offer? 93 SE with all options and 95K miles, 5200asking and is neg. ?? thanks

dmontzsta

iTrader: (8)

Well as much as I love my VE and hate ford's.I personally am getting a 89 5.0 in about 4 months from my neighbor.I hate ford's love imports and I am keeping my Max because the 5.0 will be my second car.And we all know it doesnt have the luxury,style or sound of a Max.But 5.0's are torque monsters especially on the take off.A VE will get burned.Plus like everyone says the 5.0's are very easy modded.I have seen and heard of stock 5.0's with alot of stock parts honed and gearing run 12's-13's.And if you were to buy a nice set of GT-40 alluminum heads you could shed around 50lbs of weight and gain around 60hp now that will run with a VQ S/C'ed The thing is RWD and a V8 is just to dominate.