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Old Oct 21, 2001 | 04:19 PM
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How many intakes are available for the VG engine ? How hard and expensive is a 5spd conversion? Is it worth it or should I rebuild the auto with performance parts?
Old Oct 21, 2001 | 05:40 PM
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2 basic setups.. cone intake and cold air intake.


you've been faqued
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....threadid=61572

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Old Oct 21, 2001 | 05:53 PM
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As far as the whole argument as to weather or not it is worth the trouble to do an Auto swap... it seems to me that it could be cost effective. Basically if you can find a wrecked 5spd VG, it shouldn't cost more than ~$1000, plus misc other materials. So grand total IMHO should be less than $1500 (with new OEM clutch / pressure plate / etc). This is about the same if not less than what a rebuilt Auto will cost...

Just my $0.02,
Old Oct 21, 2001 | 05:53 PM
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Re: Intakes

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How hard and expensive is a 5spd conversion?
Personally, I only know of maybe 1 guy that has successfully done that on the whole board, and it will cost a lot more than your car is probably worth. You'd be better off just selling what you've got and upgrading to a VE 5-speed, it'll be a lot easier.
Old Oct 21, 2001 | 07:24 PM
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Re: Re: Intakes

who was that?

Originally posted by Shep
Personally, I only know of maybe 1 guy that has successfully done that on the whole board, and it will cost a lot more than your car is probably worth.
Old Oct 21, 2001 | 08:10 PM
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who was that?

I can't really remember, but I'm pretty sure it was one of the 4th gen guys.
Old Oct 21, 2001 | 08:18 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Intakes

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I can't really remember, but I'm pretty sure it was one of the 4th gen guys.
there are a couple 4th gen guys acually and one 3rd gen I know of who had a auto SE converted to stick
need4power (used to have site at www.redlineautoworks.com/smx ) it's a black car with bmw headlights and some other mods
sorry, I dont know any details though
Old Oct 21, 2001 | 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by Brian_TII
As far as the whole argument as to weather or not it is worth the trouble to do an Auto swap... it seems to me that it could be cost effective. Basically if you can find a wrecked 5spd VG, it shouldn't cost more than ~$1000, plus misc other materials. So grand total IMHO should be less than $1500 (with new OEM clutch / pressure plate / etc). This is about the same if not less than what a rebuilt Auto will cost...

Just my $0.02,
The labour cost for the swap would be a ***** though...
Old Oct 21, 2001 | 09:04 PM
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The labour cost for the swap would be a ***** though...
There is no labor cost if you choose to do it yourself :-) It might take some time to do it... but I do believe that it could be done. Especially if you have the other car right next to it... I doubt that it would be ALL that hard.

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Old Oct 21, 2001 | 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by Brian_TII


There is no labor cost if you choose to do it yourself :-) It might take some time to do it... but I do believe that it could be done. Especially if you have the other car right next to it... I doubt that it would be ALL that hard.

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I'm just taking a guess here, but he didn't seem like the type that would perform a 5-speed conversion himself.
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 12:27 AM
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There is no labor cost if you choose to do it yourself :-) It might take some time to do it... but I do believe that it could be done. Especially if you have the other car right next to it... I doubt that it would be ALL that hard.

Take care,
brian whats up dude, looks i will be joining u on the rx7 forums soon, im getting ready to buy a 88 - 91 TII, =D perhaps we can talk about rx's sometime, i`ll be just like u, TII hobby car, 89 max daily driver.. hahaha
Old Oct 22, 2001 | 10:13 AM
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Re: Intakes

Originally posted by phat89max
How many intakes are available for the VG engine ? How hard and expensive is a 5spd conversion? Is it worth it or should I rebuild the auto with performance parts?
my friend harold did it to his 4th gen. his name on here is hlh0501.

here's a link to his site on how to do it:
http://www.stormpages.com/autoto5spd/

and here's more about it:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....threadid=53750

hope this helps
Old Oct 25, 2001 | 01:05 PM
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Thanks for the help I'm going to keep my car for awhile because it has alot of sentimental value my dad gave me the car and he never gives me anything. So I want to keep it but i do have money so i think next spring i'm going to try the 5spd conversion.
Old Oct 25, 2001 | 07:01 PM
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Screw getting a 5 speed conversion. Just get a AutoMAGIC rebuild from Level 10, and a bullit torque converter. Probably still worth more than the price of your car, but when I turn my car into a track only car, I will probably follow that path.
Old Oct 25, 2001 | 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by Cincy94Max
Screw getting a 5 speed conversion. Just get a AutoMAGIC rebuild from Level 10, and a bullit torque converter. Probably still worth more than the price of your car, but when I turn my car into a track only car, I will probably follow that path.
just buy another car... that has potential of being a track car.. even if u put 10 grand into a maxima u wont beat a car like a VR4
Old Oct 26, 2001 | 05:23 PM
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Mykizism, whats the dizzle on the skizzle my nizzle? JK, seriously though, I will have to seriously disagree with you there! I have some uncommon knowledge about certain things available for the max (mostly custom work). I added it up and with about $10k-$15k I could make a Maxima that will beat absolutely any STOCK supra, trans-am, firebird, mustang, camaro, etc. It would also give seriously upgraded ones a run for their money. I can't tell anyone but some of this stuff is but, lets just say that it pays to look endlessly for stuff regarding the Maxima. Trust me, this is no BS, I have just looked long and hard through countless websites and search engines to find some things. Lets just say, when I do get that much money, I will undoubtedly have the fastest Maxima in the US! I really am not kidding about it and I don't think anyone believes me but, it will come true within the next 2-4yrs hopefully.

Definitely go for the Level10 tranny upgrade. Besides, if you ever run NOS (nitrous is cheating and its better to just have 400hp n/a!) then you will probably be glad to have an auto! Shifting gears wrong when you hit the NOS will screw your car up really bad!
Old Oct 26, 2001 | 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow1198
Mykizism, whats the dizzle on the skizzle my nizzle? JK, seriously though, I will have to seriously disagree with you there! I have some uncommon knowledge about certain things available for the max (mostly custom work). I added it up and with about $10k-$15k I could make a Maxima that will beat absolutely any STOCK supra, trans-am, firebird, mustang, camaro, etc. It would also give seriously upgraded ones a run for their money. I can't tell anyone but some of this stuff is but, lets just say that it pays to look endlessly for stuff regarding the Maxima. Trust me, this is no BS, I have just looked long and hard through countless websites and search engines to find some things. Lets just say, when I do get that much money, I will undoubtedly have the fastest Maxima in the US! I really am not kidding about it and I don't think anyone believes me but, it will come true within the next 2-4yrs hopefully.

Definitely go for the Level10 tranny upgrade. Besides, if you ever run NOS (nitrous is cheating and its better to just have 400hp n/a!) then you will probably be glad to have an auto! Shifting gears wrong when you hit the NOS will screw your car up really bad!
lets just say you cant beat a 4 wheel launch.. fwd, isnt all that great, nor is rwd.

when u get ur maxima up to par, like u want it, race a tricked out vr4 and u`ll see what im talking about. even tho u put a lot of money and time, its just easer in the long run to make a fast car go FAST
maximas are fast but u cant out stunt a 4 wheel launch.
Old Oct 26, 2001 | 05:40 PM
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well, lets just say that the mods I know about would easily give you 450+ fwhp. Anything over that and it will definitely be fast for a "family sedan"! I don't want to elaborate too much because I want to be the first and only one to do these mods to a 3rd gen Maxima. Anyone who knows me knows that I am somewhat obsessed with 3rd gens. I even started in the direction of dropping a Chevy 327 in my '91 gxe but stopped because it would have been too much trouble (that's right, I am crazy!).
Old Oct 26, 2001 | 05:42 PM
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Oh yeah, and I know what you mean! Vr4's are extremely fast. Well, I guess I will just have to make my Maxima 4wd!

BTW, I love that custom GTR symbol you did! Most people seem to think its wrong since the Maxima isn't exactly a Skyline though, I love it!
Old Oct 26, 2001 | 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow1198
Oh yeah, and I know what you mean! Vr4's are extremely fast. Well, I guess I will just have to make my Maxima 4wd!

BTW, I love that custom GTR symbol you did! Most people seem to think its wrong since the Maxima isn't exactly a Skyline though, I love it!
hahaha i put that gt r emblem in my panel at first as a joke, now im just gonna keep it in there. too much trouble to take it out
Old Oct 26, 2001 | 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow1198
Mykizism, whats the dizzle on the skizzle my nizzle? JK, seriously though, I will have to seriously disagree with you there! I have some uncommon knowledge about certain things available for the max (mostly custom work). I added it up and with about $10k-$15k I could make a Maxima that will beat absolutely any STOCK supra, trans-am, firebird, mustang, camaro, etc. It would also give seriously upgraded ones a run for their money.
No offense... but it's STILL a Maxima. I mean.. I love my Maxima just like everyone else, but it's a family car with a hint of performance... even if you get 1500hp... it's still a Maxima. Personally I think you need to experience some other cars to truely understand what I mean. Have you driven a C5 Corvette? Have you driven an RX-7? 300ZX? Supra? It's not all about horsepower and 1/4 mile results... True (100%) sportcars "feel" different... different seating posistion, different handling, it's not the same. Even if you have the same power, you don't have the same experience. Also you WILL have traction problems with FWD.

Take care,
Old Oct 26, 2001 | 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by Shep


I'm just taking a guess here, but he didn't seem like the type that would perform a 5-speed conversion himself.
Yeah, I meant it more as a general topic type of thing... Something for everyone to ponder before they drop a ton of money having their auto tranny rebuilt...
Old Oct 26, 2001 | 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by mykizism


brian whats up dude, looks i will be joining u on the rx7 forums soon, im getting ready to buy a 88 - 91 TII, =D perhaps we can talk about rx's sometime, i`ll be just like u, TII hobby car, 89 max daily driver.. hahaha
hey how did you get the words Nissan and GTR on your center piece
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hey how did you get the words Nissan and GTR on your center piece
i have a GTR maxima =)

and to brian TII, your right about what u said, thats why im saving up to buy a 2nd gen rx7 TII, so i can be like u> hahah rx7's are SOOOOOO NICE.. cant wait to buy one
Old Oct 27, 2001 | 01:01 PM
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Brian, I know what you mean. And yes, I have driven sports cars before. Actually, as we speak, I am in the process of a rebuilding an older Porsche (a true sports car )!with a Ferrari 246 Dino body kit. I will be dropping a Chevy 350 in there as well (there are conversion kits for it). So, I do know that sports cars are quite a bit different. Though, I still like "performance" sedans. I really probably should just get rid of my Maxima and try to go for a BMW e34 5 series because they are not all that expensive yet they perform a lot better. Actually, one of those e34 5 series looks really similar to the 3rd gen Max's. Anyways, all the mods I was talking about is stuff I was only going to do if my job possibilities work out in the near future. If it does, I will be making a crap load of money and then I would easily be able to spend $15k on my Maxima, rebuild my Porsche into a complete Ferrari kit car, and maybe even buy a BMW! I basically was just saying that the Maxima does have some SERIOUS potential for power, although it ends up costing too much. It would be a hell of alot less than the $20k-$30k someone would have to spend on their Civic to get a comparable amount of power. I just happen to really like 3rd gen's.
Old Oct 27, 2001 | 01:20 PM
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hahaha i put that gt r emblem in my panel at first as a joke, now im just gonna keep it in there. too much trouble to take it out
hey mykizism, i guess you didn't get my PM, but anyway, i'd like to know how you did that
Old Oct 27, 2001 | 03:10 PM
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all of them have weakesses and advantages over each other. no one is better than the other. it all depends on what you prefer to drive.

the weak point in an AWD platofrm is the clutch becaue breaking all 4 wheels loose is dmn near impossible without tons of power.
the vr4's and gsx's are notorious for destroying the defferential if i'm not mistaken..


Originally posted by mykizism
lets just say you cant beat a 4 wheel launch.. fwd, isnt all that great, nor is rwd.
Old Oct 27, 2001 | 04:12 PM
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Brian, I know what you mean. And yes, I have driven sports cars before.... I just happen to really like 3rd gen's.
That's cool man. I was just confused about your post... just seemed goofy to dump $15k into a Maxima when there are SO many other cars in the $15k range that would be a better investment. Good luck at your job and have fun with 350 conversion. I LOVE Chevy V8's :-)
(especially the LS1)

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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 06:17 PM
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Thanks Brian!
Old Oct 27, 2001 | 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by mykizism


just buy another car... that has potential of being a track car.. even if u put 10 grand into a maxima u wont beat a car like a VR4
i hope your talking about a modded galant VR4,because the 3000GTs are pieces of ****,and with some money a tuned max can beat a 3000GT VR4 with mods,best i ever seen a VR4 was like 13.2 in person,theres a 11 second one but with about $25000 in engine work,i used to be a diamond star guy and a 4g63 powered Galant AWD can run 10's for less than $10000,sorry kinda off subject just thought id throw in my 2 cents
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Originally posted by Rancid90SE

i hope your talking about a modded galant VR4,because the 3000GTs are pieces of ****,and with some money a tuned max can beat a 3000GT VR4 with mods,best i ever seen a VR4 was like 13.2 in person,theres a 11 second one but with about $25000 in engine work,i used to be a diamond star guy and a 4g63 powered Galant AWD can run 10's for less than $10000,sorry kinda off subject just thought id throw in my 2 cents
haha then who ever drove that 3000 GT vr4 cant lanch his car right, thats horrible time for that car.. Vr4's are fast they have powerful engines
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