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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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blindin HID

i got some HID kits on my 3rd gen and its just too bright...it blinds oncomming traffic....is amining it down good enough?
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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What brand hid kit?

Custom?

Maybe aiming them is not possible?

Got some pics?
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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helois hid kit..could amin my headlights down be good?
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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You can try to make a shield. You need to shield the lower portion of the light so its not going upwards into traffics eyes.
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nismo_vq
i got some HID kits on my 3rd gen and its just too bright...it blinds oncomming traffic....is amining it down good enough?
allow me to say thank god for someone with a CONSCIENCE!!!!
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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how would i go about this shield?

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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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how would i go about this shield?
To be honest if it was me. I would open the headlight and make the shield into the housing. But you can cut the bottom of your housing to accept a shield.
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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HID w/o Projectors = Dumb
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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HID w/o Projectors = Dumb
well ya. but at least he's got the common sense not to be like most people that put in HIDs w/o projectors, who say "**** if i care if they can see! i can see everything and they're ****ing blue too it's so sweet!"

i reallllllly hate the fact that police around here don't cite people for blatantly illegal headlights. If it's got blue tint on it at all, it should be illegal. Lots of bulbs are like blue christmas lights, they're tinted so heavily. Anything past 4300k is a) distracting b) puts out LESS light and c) is ricer.
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HID w/o Projectors = Dumb
Not true. Is is less effective yes but if done right you can get plenty of useable light form a kit.
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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Not true. Is is less effective yes but if done right you can get plenty of useable light form a kit.
in order to aim w/o blind people you have to sacrifice too much of said useable light especially at the edges



stock/euro on left, projector on right

the only good non-projector housings are the ones that are specifically designed for HIDs, such as 5.5 gen maxima, some acuras, toyota prius, etc.
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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in order to aim w/o blind people you have to sacrifice too much of said useable light especially at the edges



stock/euro on left, projector on right

the only good non-projector housings are the ones that are specifically designed for HIDs, such as 5.5 gen maxima, some acuras, toyota prius, etc.
No you really dont. I have done retros and i have also modded stock units to utilize hids without tons of glare. A proper casper shield will cut glare and you will still have plenty of usable light.
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No you really dont. I have done retros and i have also modded stock units to utilize hids without tons of glare. A proper casper shield will cut glare and you will still have plenty of usable light.
so what specifically do you do for the stock-housing mods (you could make a writeup for those of us who cannot afford a true retro, perhaps), and also, how well do the highbeams work after you've put in the casper shield?
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so what specifically do you do for the stock-housing mods (you could make a writeup for those of us who cannot afford a true retro, perhaps), and also, how well do the highbeams work after you've put in the casper shield?
Theres the catch. Most of these kits get rid of your high beams. Im pretty sure the ones that do i have i could make a shield for it too . The easiest way is to cut the lower part where the bulb goes into the housing and make a shield there. The way i do it is take the lights apart and make the shield a part of the housing.
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Theres the catch. Most of these kits get rid of your high beams. Im pretty sure the ones that do i have i could make a shield for it too . The easiest way is to cut the lower part where the bulb goes into the housing and make a shield there. The way i do it is take the lights apart and make the shield a part of the housing.
so there's no way to like.... flip the shield via solenoid? well, that adds cost, but i mean, there's times when hibeams are flat-out necessary

my "ideal" setup is to run solenoid-based low/hi HID projectors with a second housing for incandescent hibeam bulbs too. that way i can flash my highs w/o activacing the HIDs which i've heard wears down the ballasts, but if headlights are already on, then PUSHING the stalk for steady-on-HighBeams will flip the solenoid and unleash the full HID projection w/o a cutoff, but pulling it would flash the incandescent bulb. I don't know how to do this yet, but i'm sure there's a way if i really want to do it.

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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
so there's no way to like.... flip the shield via solenoid? well, that adds cost, but i mean, there's times when hibeams are flat-out necessary
I wanna say that the hid kits that have high beams have a shield that move but most dont get those. I can make those work as well.
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kzoosho
I wanna say that the hid kits that have high beams have a shield that move but most dont get those. I can make those work as well.
that would be the preference except for the flash-highs burning up the ballasts, unless it's wired to flash the fog lights or something. But i'm going to spend more time on mine so i'll end up spending more but it's all good.
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 11:20 PM
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Anyone have any luck with vendors on ebay selling HID kits? What do you guys recommend in terms of brand, kelvin rating, vendor, etc? Thanks.
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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Anyone have any luck with vendors on ebay selling HID kits? What do you guys recommend in terms of brand, kelvin rating, vendor, etc? Thanks.
4300k other than that, beats me. Reason being 4300 is pure white. All other colors visible to the human eye "lose" light, by not being full spectrum. That's why the brighter a light gets, whatever color it may be, the whiter it seems... but blue headlights are wasteful and massively distracting. So stick to 4300 and you'll be good to go.
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
4300k other than that, beats me. Reason being 4300 is pure white. All other colors visible to the human eye "lose" light, by not being full spectrum. That's why the brighter a light gets, whatever color it may be, the whiter it seems... but blue headlights are wasteful and massively distracting. So stick to 4300 and you'll be good to go.
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i am so glad i havent seen a set of those ****ing things in a while. blinding as hell, even from accross 6 lanes of interstate with a 30foot median.
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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what is the best HID Kit that will NOT blind the people but also give me enough light.
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Not true. Is is less effective yes but if done right you can get plenty of useable light form a kit.
If it's SMART to use projectors for maximum light concentration in the usable areas. As well as not BLIND ppl. Then ghetto rigging and wasting light WOULD BE?????? Not smart? If you going to do something why not do it right?
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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seriously, i hate bright lights on cars at night.. makes me wanna do some road rage lol
Can you just tint the covers maybe??

Hmmm ever notice, unless you live in the boonies, typical night driving you only need lights to be seen by other cars? Most places have enough lighting by streetlight etc, which is why I hate people who use HB or have really really bright lights!

I used to own a toyota 4x4, lifted 4" with 33x12.5s.. people would always flash their HB's at me, probabaly cause they thought mine were on, right in their eyes! haha
I was young back then, never dawned on me.. was always like WTF!
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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if you lower the lights a bit they are fine. I've had 5000k since January and have asked several friends who aren't into cars if my lights were too bright when I passed them in the parkind deck or got behind them, the answer was "no" everytime. The generic advice that permeates discussion groups is that you should never put HID into reflectors, but all reflectors are different. I understand newer cars have those lexan bubble eyes and when people drop HID into those the light DOES go everywhere, but our housings are just not like that, they really put out a good beam with HID.
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nismax1994
if you lower the lights a bit they are fine. I've had 5000k since January and have asked several friends who aren't into cars if my lights were too bright when I passed them in the parkind deck or got behind them, the answer was "no" everytime. The generic advice that permeates discussion groups is that you should never put HID into reflectors, but all reflectors are different. I understand newer cars have those lexan bubble eyes and when people drop HID into those the light DOES go everywhere, but our housings are just not like that, they really put out a good beam with HID.
the general premise is that unless the reflector has a massively good beam pattern, such as a 4th gen camry (go figure?) then it's best to use projectors, b/c you know the beam pattern will be good. most people aren't picky enough when it comes to form vs function. I always like to have both but function comes first for me... usually
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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i have a 94 maxima and i was inquiring about a pair of hid. im new to the whole modifications thing but im willing to learn. my car is dark green and i want light that would look "nice" not too bright but it has to turn heads and make a statement of "sexy"! lol. any recommendations?
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mz Retta
i have a 94 maxima and i was inquiring about a pair of hid. im new to the whole modifications thing but im willing to learn. my car is dark green and i want light that would look "nice" not too bright but it has to turn heads and make a statement of "sexy"! lol. any recommendations?
I'd suggest a color temp of 3000k, it will be amber which I think would compliment the emerald green.
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