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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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yeah their system is messed up, I guess its a vg sensor. But in their system it is listed for the DOHC engine.

Anyway, I think my original engine got super hot. All of the hard plastic was melted like a pancake. I'll post pics tomorrow. I'm going to go buy the correct knock sensor now. So what parts do I need to switch over from the old engine to the new? I thought a few sensors needed to be moved over.
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here are a few pics from yesterday. New exhast studs on the engine that is going in the car then a picture of the knock sensor on the engine that I took out of the car. I am guessing the previous owner was not lying when he said the engine got hot!





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Looking good mang

My old ve parts cars k/s looked just like yours, it was overheated like a **** also.
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Looking good mang

My old ve parts cars k/s looked just like yours, it was overheated like a **** also.
The harness was melted to the K/S, and once that broke off, I had to knock the knock sensor off with a hammer and screw driver
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forigve my n00bishness with teh VE... what is the burgundy connector up-left of the heater hoses?

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Damn cadaver! you have a fsm download somewhere, don't ya? Study up mang!

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Damn cadaver! you have a fsm download somewhere, don't ya? Study up mang!

no FSM at the moment... the home of the chubby infiniti is down..... and this lappy doesn't have an FSM on it. i found that other link but only DL'd the EL section.
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no FSM at the moment... the home of the chubby infiniti is down..... and this lappy doesn't have an FSM on it. i found that other link but only DL'd the EL section.
http://boredmder.com/FSM/Nissan/Maxima/1994/
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i know i'm just too lazy to right click each link....

but i must say, Cardana seems to be going about this the right way. Taking his time... prepping everything and making sure he's doing all the might-regret-it stuff before it comes back to bite him.

unlike Matt and his 89....... we tossed the stupid engine in and put the timing belt on a week later. he's too busy playing videogames and :butttshex: w/ his GF to park it on a hill and bleed the coolant! Some men you just can't reach!
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Right click on the links? why?
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Right click on the links? why?
saving the links makes it easier to browse quickly without waiting for it to load.... only have 1.5Mbps internet here.... none of that roadrunner turbo i had at the apartment.
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oh ok i see, yeah a slow internet conn. would take a while..

10 meg cable here.
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I keep the whole thing on my laptop, along with one for a 95,96 maxima, 94 altima, 92 g20, 98 I30, and someothers I think.
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okay, so what do I need to switch over from the old engine? Sensors? What else? I am going to use the fuel rail from the old engine sice I am sure that engine was running probably 4 months ago. I am going to use the old upper plenum because that still has the power valve hooked up and a few other things that the JDM one does not have. So what else?
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okay, so what do I need to switch over from the old engine? Sensors? What else? I am going to use the fuel rail from the old engine sice I am sure that engine was running probably 4 months ago. I am going to use the old upper plenum because that still has the power valve hooked up and a few other things that the JDM one does not have. So what else?

Someone already told you..

http://forums.maxima.org/6653815-post21.html
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thats a different thread

"As for the OP, the only things that need to be replaced are the cam sensor and the coolant temp sensor. The IACV is different, too. I am not sure if that is JDM different or AT vs. MT different. Mine has the original one back on it."

So it says cam sensor. How many of those do we have? The coolant temp sensor. Is that the little one that just has the one spade connection?
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Coolant temp sensor:



Cam position sensor: 1

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thanks for the pics. Is that the only cam sensor? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I cannot see the engine right now.
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Yes, only one cam sensor.
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So I got my knock sensor in the mail yesterday and I picked up a harness from the nissan dealership. The use more of a univeral harness that has two wires coming out of it, but I just cut one off and used the same one that the stock harness used. From there I soldered that wire into the fat shielded wire on the stock harness. I assume I did this correct. Let me know if there is a problem with that. I heat shrunk and then e-taped everything. After that I started putting back all the stuff. Hopefully I don't run out of RTV...I swear nothing on this engine has a premade gasket. I change the thermostat, and I put the fuel rail on from the original engine. That's where it sits now. The next step is to put on the upper intake manifold along with my NWP spacers. I also need to check to see if the IACV needs to be swaped over as well.

Also the coolant temp sensors look the same on both engines. What's the difference between the US and Jap spec?

Any comments or advice? I'll post some pics when I work on it again.
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Hopefully I don't run out of RTV...I swear nothing on this engine has a premade gasket. The next step is to put on the upper intake manifold along with my NWP spacers. I also need to check to see if the IACV needs to be swaped over as well.
Yes, there are many premade oem gaskets..

http://www.courtesyparts.com/maxima-...1612_1614.html

Of course, you wont need intake/tb gaskets since you're the using nwp spacers.
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I got a few more things done tonight. One of which was taking the oil pan off just to re seal it. I noticed that it has some sort of gray in color RTV. Is this any different than the black stuff? I have been using black on everything else. I just wanted to check and see if the gray stuff is more oil resistant or something? Let me know. I hope to get the engine put back together before the weekend....we will see how that goes.
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the gray silicone is different from the black. it does not harden in the same way that the black does.
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Originally Posted by cardana24
So I got my knock sensor in the mail yesterday and I picked up a harness from the nissan dealership. The use more of a univeral harness that has two wires coming out of it, but I just cut one off and used the same one that the stock harness used. From there I soldered that wire into the fat shielded wire on the stock harness. I assume I did this correct. Let me know if there is a problem with that. I heat shrunk and then e-taped everything. After that I started putting back all the stuff. Hopefully I don't run out of RTV...I swear nothing on this engine has a premade gasket. I change the thermostat, and I put the fuel rail on from the original engine. That's where it sits now. The next step is to put on the upper intake manifold along with my NWP spacers. I also need to check to see if the IACV needs to be swaped over as well.

Also the coolant temp sensors look the same on both engines. What's the difference between the US and Jap spec?

Any comments or advice? I'll post some pics when I work on it again.
The difference in the us and jap motor is the compression. Jap motor is 8.5:1 and the us motor is 10.0:1

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The difference in the us and jap motor is the compression. Jap motor is 8.5:1 and the us motor is 10.0:1
cite your source.
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cite your source.
I dont need to site a source you just need to do some research. I build all type a race cars for a living and nissan is my specailty. I've owned my 3erdgen since 1992. I maybe what you guys call a noobie on here cuz i just joined your forum but ive been doing this for 16 years.
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I dont need to site a source you just need to do some research. I build all type a race cars for a living and nissan is my specailty. I've owned my 3erdgen since 1992. I maybe what you guys call a noobie on here cuz i just joined your forum but ive been doing this for 16 years.
so you're saying the JDM VE30DE was 8.5:1? do you know why it would be different? and if it is 8.5:1 then i don't see why anybody would want a JDM VE unless they wanted to turbo it...
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I dont need to site a source you just need to do some research. I build all type a race cars for a living and nissan is my specailty. I've owned my 3erdgen since 1992. I maybe what you guys call a noobie on here cuz i just joined your forum but ive been doing this for 16 years.
Site the source of your bullshiet claim.....or you have 0 credibility here.

Also, how about posting some pictures of this ve30deT 3,495cc/ with a Standalone,turbo,nitrous,cp pistons setup??

lots of people come on here claiming to "know" all about these cars, and claim to have all kinds of mods, but never post any proof of their knowledge or mods. not calling you a liar, but some proof of your 8.5:1 claim on the jdm ve engine and some nice pictures of turbo/nitrous ve would help out with your credibility.

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so you're saying the JDM VE30DE was 8.5:1? do you know why it would be different? and if it is 8.5:1 then i don't see why anybody would want a JDM VE unless they wanted to turbo it...
yes the reason why they have lower compression over there is because of the type of gas they use and the atmosphere. yes the jap motor is a very good motor for boosting. thier octain is different then ours. If a person knows anything about basic compression you would know that a lower compression will help in getting more boost out of a motor and with lower compression you can use lower grades of gas. Dont twist what I am saying. Lower compression 87 octain, high compression 91+ octain, lower compression + boost 93+ octain. This is as simple as i can put that
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Site the source of your bullshiet claim.....or you have 0 credibility here.

Also, how about posting some pictures of this ve30deT 3,495cc/ with a Standalone,turbo,nitrous,cp pistons setup??

lots of people come on here claiming to "know" all about these cars, and claim to have all kinds of mods, but never post any proof of their knowledge or mods. not calling you a liar, but some proof of your 8.5:1 claim on the jdm ve engine and some nice pictures of turbo/nitrous ve would help out with your credibility.
I am not here to gain points or credibility with anyone. Joined here just to offer my sevices. As you can see I just joined a day ago so how bout you give me some time to post some pics
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I am not here to gain points or credibility with anyone. Joined here just to offer my sevices. As you can see I just joined a day ago so how bout you give me some time to post some pics
This is not about gaining "points"...You made a claim of 8.5:1 compression on the jdm Ve engine, yet offer no proof whatsoever to back it up. hmmmm, this makes all of us think that you really have no proof at all of this claim., just simply post the source of your claim and everything will be fine. Your "services" would be greatly appreciated with proof of this new info on the jdm ve engine.

We will be waiting patiently for the pics of this VE30DET!! be sure to post a bunch of pictures!!

If you are not sure how to post pictures on here, just click the thread link below for instructions.

click here for instructions---> http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...step-here.html

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Im wondering why all the VE guys who have swapped a JDM motor in their car didnt notice a LARGE drop in power from their USDM engines????

Im afraid that your logic is highly flawed. Gas isnt much different in japan, they just use a different method to determine octane. Atmosphere? LOL Please elaborate, I cant wait to hear this one....... BUT, lets just say that in some alternate reality this "octain" in japan is lower and ALL of japan has a higher altitude then ALL of the US, then why do almost all the JDM and USDM motors have the same CR (except for the VE, according to you)???

I would think that after 16 years working on cars, you would understand more of the basics and know how to spell things like "octain" (octane). No one called you a "noob" because you just joined, but we are all thinking it since you make silly claims with nothing to back it.

Take a look at the common octane available in japan, do a search how they calculate octane vs the US, and try explaining again this big difference again. I have a feeling you will learn more in 16 minutes than you have in the past 16 years.

As for the JDM VE engine with 8.5:1 compression being common knowledge, you are going to have to do better than that. Many people on this board have purchased and installed JDM VE engines and NONE have been 8.5:1.
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I also am curious about this 3.5L ve. is there a stroker kit idk about? can you define each of the "major modifications" you have listed? I mean, for somebody "doing this for 16 years", you should be able to list each mod properly. "standalone"? standalone, what? ecu? fms? braking system? turbo? "port polish"? wtf? you polished the ports, but not port the ports?no mention of a bore/stroke to up the displacement?
noob. gtfo. stfu. scat.

EDIT: you have owned your third gen for 16 years, have done all this stuff to your car, but only recently joined the org? Maxima.org is pretty much the most informative forum on the net, for maximas. and the veterans, who drive VE30DEs have never heard of a low comp. jdm ve?
fail.

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JDM VE motors are identical inside. I should know. I've done two swaps and know how the USDM and JDM motors behave.
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So I went to change the oil pan gasket and realized that one of the half moon's in the fel pro kit is too small!! So I looked at the box and it says that this gasket kit (two half moons and some rtv) also fits the VG. Is this the case? Where can I get one that fits? I know the dealer can get one but I would like to get one tomorrow and I doubt they stock them at the dealership.
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So I went to change the oil pan gasket and realized that one of the half moon's in the fel pro kit is too small!! So I looked at the box and it says that this gasket kit (two half moons and some rtv) also fits the VG. Is this the case? Where can I get one that fits? I know the dealer can get one but I would like to get one tomorrow and I doubt they stock them at the dealership.
hmmm..they are the same part#

Where did you buy the kit?

Part# on the box?
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So I went to change the oil pan gasket and realized that one of the half moon's in the fel pro kit is too small!! So I looked at the box and it says that this gasket kit (two half moons and some rtv) also fits the VG. Is this the case? Where can I get one that fits? I know the dealer can get one but I would like to get one tomorrow and I doubt they stock them at the dealership.
i thought one side was supposed to be smaller? dunno it's been a while since i did that... but i thought the rear-main side was supposed to have a bigger one than the oilpump side did?
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So I went to change the oil pan gasket and realized that one of the half moon's in the fel pro kit is too small!! So I looked at the box and it says that this gasket kit (two half moons and some rtv) also fits the VG. Is this the case? Where can I get one that fits? I know the dealer can get one but I would like to get one tomorrow and I doubt they stock them at the dealership.
um, last time I checked felpro made NO gaskets for the VE at all. they listed it in the catalog, but all the footnotes mentioned that they were all for the VG30DE motor not the VE.
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hmmm..they are the same part#

Where did you buy the kit?

Part# on the box?
I'm sorry it's Beck Arnley not Felpro. I don't have the part number but I got it at advanced auto.
It's this one http://www.partsamerica.com/productd...Number=0340775

What gives?
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I'm sorry it's Beck Arnley not Felpro. I don't have the part number but I got it at advanced auto.
It's this one http://www.partsamerica.com/productd...Number=0340775

What gives?
Beats me?

I have a VE modo Buy all seals/gaskets from the dealer.



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