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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 02:02 AM
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I was looking at getting a CAI for my 94 SE with VG30E in and came across this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-...Q5fAccessories


It says it fits all models but aren't the VE30 VG30 fitted with different MAF's? They also wouldn't need the same shape would they?
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 04:23 AM
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if worse comes to worse, drill new holes for your maf bolts
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 05:48 AM
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if worse comes to worse, drill new holes for your maf bolts

should be fine most likely not a direct fit but im sure it will work with little modification
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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personally i'm not a fan.
the flange looks like a piece of sheet metal.
fitment might be a little iffy for a VG.
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 06:45 AM
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But isn't the VE's MAF smaller than the VG's meaning that if it fits the VE then it will be too small for the VG and you can't drill hols in to material that is not there.

Also isn;t the MAF positioned in a different space in the engine meaning that the bends in the pipe work are different?
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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That is a VE30DE CAI. He says "all models" because it most likely doesn't dawn on most people that other 92-94 SE's around the world didn't have the VE and he's probably slightly misinformed about VG vs. VE in U.S. models as well. You can buy the Accord CAI for about the same price on eBay for the VG.

Anyway, I actually bought that CAI for my "new" VE. Honestly, the fit is way better than the WSP, which is really surprising. Notice the bend on the end of the longer pipe. That's the part of the pipe that fits down into the fender, and that slight bend on the end of the pipe actually angles the filter away from the frame rail. The WSP pipe is just a straight 90 degree angle and it pushes the filter straight into the frame rail.

The piping is a little thin (but I mean it's just intake piping, it doesn't need to be thick), and the rubber couplers are a little flimsy, but you can't beat the price for a great fitting CAI. Unfortunately though, that won't work for you though
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by W00dface
But isn't the VE's MAF smaller than the VG's meaning that if it fits the VE then it will be too small for the VG and you can't drill hols in to material that is not there.

Also isn;t the MAF positioned in a different space in the engine meaning that the bends in the pipe work are different?
i think they are the same part# they are according to courtesyparts.com
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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i think they are the same part# they are according to courtesyparts.com
yea, the MAFs are the same between VE and VG, i have a vg and a few months ago got a MAF off a VE in the JY and it works fine, identical looking to my vg one.
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by James92SE
That is a VE30DE CAI. He says "all models" because it most likely doesn't dawn on most people that other 92-94 SE's around the world didn't have the VE and he's probably slightly misinformed about VG vs. VE in U.S. models as well. You can buy the Accord CAI for about the same price on eBay for the VG.

Anyway, I actually bought that CAI for my "new" VE. Honestly, the fit is way better than the WSP, which is really surprising. Notice the bend on the end of the longer pipe. That's the part of the pipe that fits down into the fender, and that slight bend on the end of the pipe actually angles the filter away from the frame rail. The WSP pipe is just a straight 90 degree angle and it pushes the filter straight into the frame rail.

The piping is a little thin (but I mean it's just intake piping, it doesn't need to be thick), and the rubber couplers are a little flimsy, but you can't beat the price for a great fitting CAI. Unfortunately though, that won't work for you though
So do you have yours running through a hole you drilled then (meaning you do not have it behind your headlight)?
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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negative on the intake from ebay.
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 07:42 AM
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So do you have yours running through a hole you drilled then (meaning you do not have it behind your headlight)?
Well, no not at the moment. I did away with the in-fender part of my CAI a couple of years ago, but the hole is still there. At the moment I'm just running a "WAI" - like in your avatar picture.

However, I did test fit the eBay CAI down into the fender to confirm the fit, and it fits like a champ. Like I said, the little "flare" on the end of the inner-fender pipe is a much needed touch that is lacking in the WSP unit. Of course, my WSP unit is about 6 years old, so they may have fixed their design, but I'd highly doubt it. Theirs is literally just a 90 degree bend pipe that can be had at Summit for about $25

If you placed the eBay CAI and theh WSP CAI next to eachother and didn't know anybetter, you'd swear the eBay CAI is the $150+ unit. I mean, my $150+ WSP unit has all sorts of welding slag inside it too, which the eBay CAI doesn't.

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negative on the intake from ebay.
Really, I find it kind of funny everybody falling over themselves going out of their way to pay outrageous amounts for things like intake piping. I mean, a 3" tube is a 3" tube. You can't mess it up. It's not like it's used for suspension or something, or that it's prone to abuse.

I'm just as much "you get what you pay for" kind of person as the next guy, but, really, intake piping is one thing that is completely pointless to over pay for...
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by James92SE

Really, I find it kind of funny everybody falling over themselves going out of their way to pay outrageous amounts for things like intake piping. I mean, a 3" tube is a 3" tube. You can't mess it up. It's not like it's used for suspension or something, or that it's prone to abuse.

I'm just as much "you get what you pay for" kind of person as the next guy, but, really, intake piping is one thing that is completely pointless to over pay for...
Thats all fine and dandy for someone with a maf sensor that only needs an adaptor like the maxima to attach the MAF sensor, but for others with different types of maf sensors you can't just get a bent piece of pipe and it'll work. You would need a machined maf plate built into the tubing for something like my mazda.

much like this. This is not my car, but the same MAF

Old Oct 16, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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Really, I find it kind of funny everybody falling over themselves going out of their way to pay outrageous amounts for things like intake piping. I mean, a 3" tube is a 3" tube. You can't mess it up. It's not like it's used for suspension or something, or that it's prone to abuse.

I'm just as much "you get what you pay for" kind of person as the next guy, but, really, intake piping is one thing that is completely pointless to over pay for...


notice if you go into any performance shop they usually have "intake piping" to make your own custom intake out of a collection of sizes and shapes of piping.
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by James92SE

Really, I find it kind of funny everybody falling over themselves going out of their way to pay outrageous amounts for things like intake piping. I mean, a 3" tube is a 3" tube. You can't mess it up. It's not like it's used for suspension or something, or that it's prone to abuse.

I'm just as much "you get what you pay for" kind of person as the next guy, but, really, intake piping is one thing that is completely pointless to over pay for...
true a pipe is a pipe...but the money should be put on a good flange. that flimsy flange doesn't look too sturdy and it's easy to bend it during installation.

also it should really come down to fitment. if it fits bad i don't care if the pipes are gold plated it's still going to suck.
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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IMHO with experiance from working on my own vg intake so many times the best intake isnt a high priced name brand pipe.. I started out with an Injen Intake off of a 240 sx and over time ive shortened it and put bends in it and shortened it some more... Now i have about 4 inches(enough for the Hose bung)of the injen intake left and the rest is MAF and Filter...With my car ive gotten better Track et's with a really short intake as opposed to a longer (Supposivly Cai) Intakes...Im not to familier with Ve's but i would think making a short ram intake and routing some bendy hose in to get some cool air to the filter would be the best bet...
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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i usually run just a maf adapter and filter it works great and is really inexpensive. im looking to get a billet adapter and the piece i need to eliminate that ugly huge stock black box with all the vac lines in it. autozone has a decent selection of different pieces and couplings and flexible hose, i looked yesterday they had 90,60 and 45 degree elbows and straight pieces with maf flanges built in. they have the maf adapters and everything i would check it out u could easily create ur own sweet intake from the stuff they had and all for about the same cash as the one u posted from ebay
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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The Honda Accord kit actually works for both the VG and VE without any body cutting at all. If used with the VG, you'll need to buy an additional 90 degree bend pipe to go down behind the headlight. As for the VE, you just cut the S-style pipe that comes with the kit in half- making a 90 degree bend to go behind the headlight. The only downfall with the VE is that it doesn't have the midpipe; but I figure with a resonator delete in place it shouldn't create that much turbulence there.

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