ITBs On a VG30e?
03-11-2010, 07:32 AM
#2
you'd be on your own, really. you'd have to build an airbox to cover over top of all the ITBs anyways, airtight, connected to an intake pipe so that the MAF would read airflow. having them open-air wouldn't work with our ECU.
Yea it would look and sound cool if you could get it to work open-air but really the VG30E needs other things done to it before it would really have any serious power potential without turbocharging it. IE, cams, higher compression, headwork, ported intake manifold and a full tune.
Yea it would look and sound cool if you could get it to work open-air but really the VG30E needs other things done to it before it would really have any serious power potential without turbocharging it. IE, cams, higher compression, headwork, ported intake manifold and a full tune.
03-11-2010, 01:10 PM
#4
Go for it kid!!!! Be different,...it can be done! I think I saw a Datsun 510 with a VG30 swap, but running sidedraft carbs (vertically mounted) but pretty cool! kinda like Ole' school Shelby Mustangs the ran in the Old TRANS-AM days.....but like Matt said, hope you got plenty of money and time!
03-11-2010, 01:14 PM
#5
Go for it kid!!!! Be different,...it can be done! I think I saw a Datsun 510 with a VG30 swap, but running sidedraft carbs (vertically mounted) but pretty cool! kinda like Ole' school Shelby Mustangs the ran in the Old TRANS-AM days.....but like Matt said, hope you got plenty of money and time!
03-12-2010, 12:40 PM
#7
Hey you did nothing wrong...Keep the mind flowing freely and you set your own limits...but it can be done like anything....It will take a lot of $$$$$...Like my Father and I say all the time...How deep are your pockets????
03-13-2010, 04:58 AM
#11
The factory setup on the VG30E is awesome as it is...twin throttle bodies, and the flow is pretty good.
Setting up a MAP sensor with ITBs wouldnt be possible on a V6, setting up a Mass Air Flow Sensor would be the way to go, just making those bodies would be difficult.
Again, with a V6...it's a hard thing to do, much easier with a straight 6 since all the bodies are alligned together and can be opened easier with 1 throttle cable.
Get your intake manifolds and runners ported, and use polymer gaskets between the runners and the heads (I'm yet to get my own running to see how much difference these make) and you'll have more than enough response as is.
Setting up a MAP sensor with ITBs wouldnt be possible on a V6, setting up a Mass Air Flow Sensor would be the way to go, just making those bodies would be difficult.
Again, with a V6...it's a hard thing to do, much easier with a straight 6 since all the bodies are alligned together and can be opened easier with 1 throttle cable.
Get your intake manifolds and runners ported, and use polymer gaskets between the runners and the heads (I'm yet to get my own running to see how much difference these make) and you'll have more than enough response as is.
03-13-2010, 05:49 AM
#12
Actually I'm just saying it's pretty darn useless on a 20 year old FWD car. Sure you *could* do it with enough time and money... But if you have to ask questions like these, then a mod like this is something you probably wouldn't be able to accomplish. But at the end of the day, you've done a one-off useless mod to a FWD family car that handles like a boat. I spent a lot of years trying to make my car fast and learned the hard way that it's not and never will be.
03-13-2010, 04:55 PM
#13
I'm here to squash all of your hopes and dreams.
Actually I'm just saying it's pretty darn useless on a 20 year old FWD car. Sure you *could* do it with enough time and money... But if you have to ask questions like these, then a mod like this is something you probably wouldn't be able to accomplish. But at the end of the day, you've done a one-off useless mod to a FWD family car that handles like a boat. I spent a lot of years trying to make my car fast and learned the hard way that it's not and never will be.
Actually I'm just saying it's pretty darn useless on a 20 year old FWD car. Sure you *could* do it with enough time and money... But if you have to ask questions like these, then a mod like this is something you probably wouldn't be able to accomplish. But at the end of the day, you've done a one-off useless mod to a FWD family car that handles like a boat. I spent a lot of years trying to make my car fast and learned the hard way that it's not and never will be.
why are u on the forums.. lol.. it seems like u hate these cars
03-13-2010, 04:56 PM
#14
The factory setup on the VG30E is awesome as it is...twin throttle bodies, and the flow is pretty good.
Setting up a MAP sensor with ITBs wouldnt be possible on a V6, setting up a Mass Air Flow Sensor would be the way to go, just making those bodies would be difficult.
Again, with a V6...it's a hard thing to do, much easier with a straight 6 since all the bodies are alligned together and can be opened easier with 1 throttle cable.
Get your intake manifolds and runners ported, and use polymer gaskets between the runners and the heads (I'm yet to get my own running to see how much difference these make) and you'll have more than enough response as is.
Setting up a MAP sensor with ITBs wouldnt be possible on a V6, setting up a Mass Air Flow Sensor would be the way to go, just making those bodies would be difficult.
Again, with a V6...it's a hard thing to do, much easier with a straight 6 since all the bodies are alligned together and can be opened easier with 1 throttle cable.
Get your intake manifolds and runners ported, and use polymer gaskets between the runners and the heads (I'm yet to get my own running to see how much difference these make) and you'll have more than enough response as is.
03-13-2010, 05:53 PM
#16
What benefit would the ITBs do?
Increase throttle response (Through a slow-shifting autotragic!)
move the power band up (what about all that fat VG torque?)
lumpy idle like a beyotch (wait, that's not good.)
Tuning will be a motherf***er (wait, that's not good either).
I'm not hating on your or the Maxima- you're just trying to do something to the car that doesn't fit the purpose of the Maxima. Miata engines, RBs, Datsun L series, SRs are all high-revving inline engines. The VG is a SOHC "truck motor" with a fat band of torque where those other engines are still spitting and sputtering.
If you want to turn it into a high-revving beast, then you're going to be dumping alllll kinds of money into it in pistons, cams, headers, headwork, and it's all going through a crappy 4 spd automatic? What good will that do?
If you want to do something like that, do it to a car that will benefit from it. Don't waste your time and money doing that to a 20 yr old FWD family car.
put a big turbo on it and go drag racing, fine. put big wheels on it, fine. put a huge system in it and cover the inside with fuzzy dice, fine. just don't try to turn it into a high-revving no torque motorcyle. It's like putting spandex on a hippo. it just doesn't fit the application.
Increase throttle response (Through a slow-shifting autotragic!)
move the power band up (what about all that fat VG torque?)
lumpy idle like a beyotch (wait, that's not good.)
Tuning will be a motherf***er (wait, that's not good either).
I'm not hating on your or the Maxima- you're just trying to do something to the car that doesn't fit the purpose of the Maxima. Miata engines, RBs, Datsun L series, SRs are all high-revving inline engines. The VG is a SOHC "truck motor" with a fat band of torque where those other engines are still spitting and sputtering.
If you want to turn it into a high-revving beast, then you're going to be dumping alllll kinds of money into it in pistons, cams, headers, headwork, and it's all going through a crappy 4 spd automatic? What good will that do?
If you want to do something like that, do it to a car that will benefit from it. Don't waste your time and money doing that to a 20 yr old FWD family car.
put a big turbo on it and go drag racing, fine. put big wheels on it, fine. put a huge system in it and cover the inside with fuzzy dice, fine. just don't try to turn it into a high-revving no torque motorcyle. It's like putting spandex on a hippo. it just doesn't fit the application.
03-13-2010, 06:27 PM
#17
What benefit would the ITBs do?
Increase throttle response (Through a slow-shifting autotragic!)
move the power band up (what about all that fat VG torque?)
lumpy idle like a beyotch (wait, that's not good.)
Tuning will be a motherf***er (wait, that's not good either).
I'm not hating on your or the Maxima- you're just trying to do something to the car that doesn't fit the purpose of the Maxima. Miata engines, RBs, Datsun L series, SRs are all high-revving inline engines. The VG is a SOHC "truck motor" with a fat band of torque where those other engines are still spitting and sputtering.
If you want to turn it into a high-revving beast, then you're going to be dumping alllll kinds of money into it in pistons, cams, headers, headwork, and it's all going through a crappy 4 spd automatic? What good will that do?
If you want to do something like that, do it to a car that will benefit from it. Don't waste your time and money doing that to a 20 yr old FWD family car.
put a big turbo on it and go drag racing, fine. put big wheels on it, fine. put a huge system in it and cover the inside with fuzzy dice, fine. just don't try to turn it into a high-revving no torque motorcyle. It's like putting spandex on a hippo. it just doesn't fit the application.
Increase throttle response (Through a slow-shifting autotragic!)
move the power band up (what about all that fat VG torque?)
lumpy idle like a beyotch (wait, that's not good.)
Tuning will be a motherf***er (wait, that's not good either).
I'm not hating on your or the Maxima- you're just trying to do something to the car that doesn't fit the purpose of the Maxima. Miata engines, RBs, Datsun L series, SRs are all high-revving inline engines. The VG is a SOHC "truck motor" with a fat band of torque where those other engines are still spitting and sputtering.
If you want to turn it into a high-revving beast, then you're going to be dumping alllll kinds of money into it in pistons, cams, headers, headwork, and it's all going through a crappy 4 spd automatic? What good will that do?
If you want to do something like that, do it to a car that will benefit from it. Don't waste your time and money doing that to a 20 yr old FWD family car.
put a big turbo on it and go drag racing, fine. put big wheels on it, fine. put a huge system in it and cover the inside with fuzzy dice, fine. just don't try to turn it into a high-revving no torque motorcyle. It's like putting spandex on a hippo. it just doesn't fit the application.
03-14-2010, 03:59 PM
#19
Matts right, it would take alot of cash to make a 3rd gen into a high revver, SR20's and B13a rotaries are far better. doing it to a 1st gen with a L engine would work, but not a 3rd gen. FC RX7 is one of the best bets for a high revver, properly built they can redline at 10k or more, some non-rotaries can redline at 10k as well like properly built AE86
and +1 on the turbo, its your best bet.
and +1 on the turbo, its your best bet.
Last edited by chrome91; 03-14-2010 at 04:02 PM.
01-09-2011, 02:25 PM
#20
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not to be a **** or revive an old but if u can find a "b13a" rotary engine i will bow down and call u god...
rotary engine codes
10a
12a
12at
13b
13bt
13b-rew
20b
renisis 13B-MSP (Multi Side Port)
renisis 16x(concept)
24a 4 rotar(2 12a's slapped together)
26b 4 rotar(2 13b's slapped together)
sry im kinda of a rotary freak
rotary engine codes
10a
12a
12at
13b
13bt
13b-rew
20b
renisis 13B-MSP (Multi Side Port)
renisis 16x(concept)
24a 4 rotar(2 12a's slapped together)
26b 4 rotar(2 13b's slapped together)
sry im kinda of a rotary freak
my bad meant 13b rotary
01-10-2011, 02:47 AM
#22
i just want add that the performance y pipe or downpipe is the best mod in my opinion
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