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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 04:41 AM
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My Automatic.., 1993 Nissan Maxima. 160hp or 190hp?!

Ok, my 1993 Nissan Maxima has..

White faced gauges, that go to 145mph
Its fast. Its Automatic though.

I want to know if it has 190hp or 160hp

Thanks.
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 04:59 AM
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more importantly, which engine do you have?
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BenStoked
more importantly, which engine do you have?
looks identical to this one.

http://images03.olx.com/ui/1/12/28/6840428_5.jpg
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 05:22 AM
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then no, not fast :P
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 05:24 AM
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WHAT?! Its the 160HP version..?!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Someone please find me a manual version SE of the car! Near Lancaster, PA 17603

I cant find this car anywhere ((3rd generation)) locally or near me
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pfft...
turbo and 5-speed swap that car. be faster than a ve (presuming it's in good condition.)
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 06:36 AM
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Someone please find me a manual version SE of the car! Near Lancaster, PA 17603
That's the spirit.

No VE no care

Really though VE 5 speeds can be hard to find, just keep looking. You'll also need to expend your search radius and keep your eyes peeled on here. There were several VE 5's for sale on here a couple months back, some might even still be available who knows
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by James92SE
That's the spirit.

No VE no care

Really though VE 5 speeds can be hard to find, just keep looking. You'll also need to expend your search radius and keep your eyes peeled on here. There were several VE 5's for sale on here a couple months back, some might even still be available who knows
I mean mine is already fast enough .., I could just imagine what a VE could do.

And speaking of swapping.., idk. The body of the car has 244 thousand miles on it, but I guess its in good condition..maybe? Its pretty damn rusty looking underneath the car..

But thats any maxima thats a 3rd generation today right?

I just want a nice sports package if I tried possibly trading this for an SE thats manual. If i did try dropping a VE manual engine in it.., what else would I be missing..

I think id be missing

-Spoiler with brake light built in
-Moon/Sun Roof
-Fog Lamps
-Smoked Tail lights
-Twin Exhaust (my current is a single)


All this together actually wouldnt be much.., . . right?

..what else? id like to see that godly prestine 3rd gen SE Maxima thats nice as hell and not too far away pop up.., but fat chance.

If no other, sh** ill have Nissan order a new engine if possible and have them drop it in..., but would this be pricy? Automatic .. to manual?
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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nissan engine will come as a long block, only: no intake,ecu, or wiring, etc etc...
best bet will be a parts car (wrecked, or something).
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use Z31 turbo parts and turbo it, then you'll be able to smoke a VE

and mines not rusty 423,000km.

i dont know whats with the VG hate, theyre great engines. got mine rebuilt in July because of the age and ive been hauling **** ever since. though my mechanic who did the rebuild said that the VE's were great engines.

but, factor in on a VG a CAI, Y pipe, and exhaust youre at 190hp
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VG guys say to "just" turbo the VG and then it'll be fast yada yada, well, but then you could "just" turbo the VE.. Apples to apples

Turboing the VG still requires a bit of fabrication even using z31 parts. Turboing a VE is "just" bit more fabrication. Brad is putting down right under 400 whp in his turbo VE setup on stock internals, etc. To make that much in a turbo VG requires a much nicer/complicated setup than the implied simple z31 setup that is oft-mentioned

Anyway, the VG is a great reliable engine, yes, but is just kind of.... dopey sans turbo setup or built a la Cmax

Even with ALL the bolt-ons on a VG, you'd be lucky to make 150 hp in a VG 5 speed.. And will even then barely run high 15's.. A VG auto.. I'd doubt you could even make 140 hp with all the bolt-ons. I don't remember the numbers offhand, but all the n/a VG dynos I've seen here over the years yield shockingly low hp numbers

Have some of you VG guys even been in/driven a VE 5? You should all find a local VE 5 guy and beg him for a spirited drive/ride just to give you some perspective on these discussions
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i cant hear you over the sound of clacking VTC's
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tryinig to talk my sister into a red ve-auto. guy wants $2k for it, but that's where negotiation comes in
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there was a kid here with a 93 VE 5spd, his parents gave it to him and something very simple was wrong with the tranny, it was in his parkade and would need to be towed out. he wanted $500 for it, was fine except for the small problem. kinda kicking myself for not grabbing it
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i cant hear you over the sound of clacking VTC's
Both my VE's are completely clack free! Not even a peep on cold startups
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by chrome91
there was a kid here with a 93 VE 5spd, his parents gave it to him and something very simple was wrong with the tranny, it was in his parkade and would need to be towed out. he wanted $500 for it, was fine except for the small problem. kinda kicking myself for not grabbing it
You bastid!
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Originally Posted by James92SE
You bastid!
for the life of me i cant remember what was wrong with it, i googled it and it was something with the shifter

theres a few VE 5spd floating around here still, i just want to grab one because one sad day there wont be any left
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BTW with VG's, can you drop in a whole Z31 turbo engine or no?
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Originally Posted by BenStoked
pfft...
turbo and 5-speed swap that car. be faster than a ve (presuming it's in good condition.)
So if we turbo the mighty VE what then. Do tell. Anyway y'all want one...right . If you're really motivated you can always "make" a VE that's why I gots me a 1990 VE. The rarest of them all.

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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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I love my 93GXE but I'm sure a VE5 would be much faster. My 4th gen is currently my fast car while my 3rd gen is my nice ride quality and nice handling car. I'm keeping my eyes open for a cheap VE5. I'd love to see what the big fuss is about. I drove Brians matte charcoal grey back in 06-07 and it felt just like my VG, guess it just takes a highway drive to really feel a difference.
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hopefully in the next few months ill have a VE 5speed car for sale, once im done putting my original one back together, so theres your hope for all you VE shoppers
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Originally Posted by ColombianMax
I drove Brians matte charcoal grey back in 06-07 and it felt just like my VG, guess it just takes a highway drive to really feel a difference.
Wasn't his an autotragic? That's why it felt like the VG. Auto VE's feel pretty pedestrian around town, but they'll haul hardcore up top. You just have to deal with the severe lack of torque down low to get there
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I had a 1997 SE 5 speed for 10 yrs and I can tell you 4th Gen isn't as exciting as mah VE5.
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Originally Posted by Augustus Maximus
So if we turbo the mighty VE what then. Do tell. Anyway y'all want one...right . If you're really motivated you can always "make" a VE that's why I gots me a 1990 VE. The rarest of them all.
we can turbo on the cheap. z31 mani, turbo, and a call to jwt, we are out, oh, $800? ve requires custom mani, which increases the overall price.
given the choice, go ve or go turbo, I would turbo. can't find a half decent ve around for a price I would pay.
and swapping ve into my vg body, no thanks. I am not scared of wiring, I just don't want the hassle of wiring.

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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 07:42 AM
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Hi everyone. I just got me a 1993 VE 5spd w/ 160k and minimal VTC noise here in Seattle. I'm convinced the northwest, or at least Seattle, is a pretty good place to buy cars from the '80s and early '90s. It's rainy, but not snowy and never road salt, so there's lots of cars that have survived and still look fine. I got a kick out of seeing old Honda civics from the '70s when I first moved out here from Cleveland.
Anyhow, check out seattle craigslist, there's a few 3rd gens on there right now. Then check out plane tickets. Thats gotta be cheaper than putting a turbo in.
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You are very correct about the Northwest. My sister in law is from Portland and every time I'm there I'm just AMAZED by the condition the cars are in. I see cars from the 70's and early 80's in fantastic condition still being driven around by average Joe's or families, and not even enthusiasts who've taken exceptional care of them or restored them. It's just amazing. I always see an inordinate amount of clean/original Datsun 510's too
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swapping ve into my vg body, no thanks. I am not scared of wiring, I just don't want the hassle of wiring.
It's not as hard as it seems and the result is pretty good. I was revving up the VE today, man it certainly sounds different from a VG. Did I mention I don't care for turbo, dropping my car or spoilers as it makes the 3rd gen look like a Bimmer and if there is a car I despise it's a Bimmer.
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Originally Posted by Augustus Maximus
It's not as hard as it seems and the result is pretty good. I was revving up the VE today, man it certainly sounds different from a VG. Did I mention I don't care for turbo, dropping my car or spoilers as it makes the 3rd gen look like a Bimmer and if there is a car I despise it's a Bimmer.
i have BMW's too but dropping a 3rd gen doesnt make it look like a BMW the handling is amazing on a 2" drop with a 3rd gen

im considering the VE swap as well, because of the crankshaft down the line i need a new engine, planning on a JDM VG30ET but the VE is tempting
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Originally Posted by Augustus Maximus
It's not as hard as it seems and the result is pretty good. I was revving up the VE today, man it certainly sounds different from a VG. Did I mention I don't care for turbo, dropping my car or spoilers as it makes the 3rd gen look like a Bimmer and if there is a car I despise it's a Bimmer.
It's not the drop, it's the lights (mod).
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i have BMW's too but dropping a 3rd gen doesnt make it look like a BMW the handling is amazing on a 2" drop with a 3rd gen
The Stillen kit makes it look like a bimmer. It's good to know the drop isn't purely cosmetic but I'll just go for some good struts.

Originally Posted by Darkwing48
It's not the drop, it's the lights (mod).
That adds to it as well.

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How can you have a 93 GXE with the VG and have white face gauges and a 145mph speedo??
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Originally Posted by 04vqmaxsl
How can you have a 93 GXE with the VG and have white face gauges and a 145mph speedo??
I have a 91 se (white face, 125mph), saw a ve cluster at a junk yard (white face 145mph cluster). pulled it, swapped the odometer, slapped it in.
100% exact fit.
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i would just do a 3.5 swap, hp/tq is what youre really after
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Originally Posted by JAMAICANLOVRBOY
i would just do a 3.5 swap, hp/tq is what youre really after
3.5 swap is alot of work in a 3rd gen, i think Aaron is the only one to have done it. would just be easier to use VG33E parts
Old Aug 29, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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How can you have a 93 GXE with the VG and have white face gauges and a 145mph speedo??
Because my Uncles a ****in rip off thats why. He sold me the car, but wont even work on it with me.
Old Aug 30, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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i cant believe after all the posts no one answered the guys original question. the 93 SE's came with the VE and its rated at 190hp.
if you ask me, bring the car back to life doing a full, and extended tune up and then keep it as a daily driver.
if you gonna turbo a car, do it to a vehicle that has potential. a FWD family sedan isnt the best route, but very doable.
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Originally Posted by 5 ltr. beater
i cant believe after all the posts no one answered the guys original question. the 93 SE's came with the VE and its rated at 190hp.
if you ask me, bring the car back to life doing a full, and extended tune up and then keep it as a daily driver.
if you gonna turbo a car, do it to a vehicle that has potential. a FWD family sedan isnt the best route, but very doable.
His question was answered indirectly with the following post
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then no, not fast :P
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^^huzzah!!! lol
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His question was answered indirectly with the following post


....i stand corrected....
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