Where did you get the idea it had Sonar Suspension II? Maybe some of the pics you looked at were my GXE since they are the same color. The photo bucket pics have my Max on there but the pics I posted were just of the SE.

 

Very clean Max very nice miles would sell quick I think for the 2000.

 

I was at this shop today with this Max which is still there obviously and they were commenting on how nice my Max looks. I was just getting a new tire there, I do all modifications/maintenance/repairs myself except for tires. The owner liked my Max better than the one in his lot, it was nice to get a compliment from them cause the have that clean VE over there. I wouldn't trade my ***** for that Max even though she has half the milaege. There was a dope 2000 323i for 5300 and clean as hell, I might have to try and copp that if it last long enough.

 

Hey, is your name Russell by any chance? If so, small world! So is mine. Never see any other Russell's around where I live. Haha.

 

Yeah, that is very true, not too many of us around with this first name.

 

that max on Ebay is way clean, but as mentioned a but pricy.... id prolly take the white one over the lower mileage

 

C'mon man the VE is the ultimate 3rd Gen...period. The owner was just stroking your chain. How much would he put your car up for $3G. Name one single solitary thing on a VG that is superior to anything on a VE except the fact that you can get them for $200 all over the place with busted timing belt and trannys. Dude my VE steps away from 4th and 5th Gen Maxs all day everyday. Why you think dude aint dropping the price...huh? Wake up.

 

No... don't change this into a VE vs. VG thread. Besides... Clack Clack Clack Clack

 

Z31 VG30ET parts, most of at turbo setup right there vs. needing the same parts custom made for a VE. plus you can get more aftermarket parts for a VG because it was used in V6 200sx/Z31/Villager/Pathflinder/Quest/some JDM cars than the VE.

BTW Quest VG30E are non interference design, and timing belts shouldnt be a issue. people who have enough brains to operate a car should be able to know the basic maintenance intervals on a vehicle and be able to read in the owners manual when the belt needs changing. VE have better out of the box performance but VG are a better base to build

 

Eh, I don't wanna get into the VG vs VE argument but everybody always throws out how "easy" it is to convert a VG to turbo. But what exactly does it "save" you labor-wise? Just the fact that you don't have to build a reverse y-pipe?

I built my reverse y-pipe in a few hours for maybe $20 bucks in piping and a $15 flange and I didn't even have to hunt down a bunch of used parts on Z forums. With the VG you still have to find one of those elbows and cut it in half and "flip" it so it's facing the other way and then weld it up. If you care to fool with all that, and can obviously weld, might as well make your own piping anyway.

Besides, if you want to make big power on the VG to match what most run of the mill VE turbos are pushing, you've got to build your own setup. So it really kind of seems like a wash

And hmm.. didn't know that about the Quest engine. Looked it up and apparently Ford made Nissan change it to non-interference

I guess that accounts for the hp decrease? Quest VGs were only like 150hp or something. But better oil filter location, eh?

 

Z31/2nd gen Maxima/200sx redtop VG IIRC had 5hp less than 3rd gen silvertop VG as well

 

I really like the intensity of your VE pride. When Im recruiting for my VE army, you'll be one of the first I call

 

You can't call me you ain't got no VE . You sold out but you can't let go .

I don't see why people debate about what is obvious. Yes one is easier to turbo, but would I buy a car based on the fact that it's easier to turbo knowing full well I have no interest in such a thing...nope. I'm more into cheap maintenance and solid reliability. I choose the one that brings me closer to realizing my goal and I enjoy the added trinkets the designers threw in while they were at it.

 

anybody that supports any side of a VE > VG argument (which is correct) is just childish and need to realize that they're on the same team...if i had a vg and a ve i could die a happy man.

 

True, but "VE" is also the initials of my name.. So I think that accounts for something, no?


Haven't seen you in years. Really enjoyed your write-up on the keyless entry back in 04' .. "easy breezy japaneasy" lol

 

Only a conversation. You see, old men (like me) express opinions we don't argue anymore.

 

solution- take a VG 3rd gen, leave the front with the VG as it is, put a VE in the rear and make it power the rear wheels.

everyone wins, and we get a AWD 3rd gen

 

Looks like I missed out on some post here in response to my post. I appreciated the compliment on my Max and that's all...period. My Max is very clean for a 20 year old car, nobody said a factory VG is better or worse than a VE. The car itself is the same...actually I like my version of the GXE better than the SE of same year. My Max has the HUD, Sonar Suspension, Digi Dash and the keyless entry, I like these options. Twenty something extra HP is always nice but not that big of a difference to run my mouth about. Now if they had made a Maxima SET, the T standing for Turbo then I would have bragging rights.

 

I also like a good looking engine. Can't stand that snorkel looking thing hogging up the top of the VG . lmao...hey I'm just havin fun, don't take it serious. Got RWD on my mind, been eyeballin the G series man.

 

and 8 more ft lbs of torque *cough cough*

 

Oh you mean the elephant trunk.

 

Yeah that VE engine bay is clean as Hell and it would look nice sittin' in my driveway but I already have my VG Max, Volvo 850 and my DD work Sentra. I'm lookin' at A4's/S4's right now, I've been scoping them for some time...I want an all wheel drive and the S4's are tight. A 370Z Fair lady wouldn't be to shabby either or a G37. My pockets are filling up again...so I'm thinking bout copping a new ride. Let's not forget about Boosting my *****...I really have the resources to do her the right way. I believe she's finally ready, meaning I have her running as close to perfect as she's gonna get. Suspension is good but gonna drop her center of gravity about 1.5 inches, install the front/rear sway bars and that's all I have left for suspension/handling and the interior is very clean and doesn't need anything. So now all I have to do is decide whether or not I want to invest the time/money into my 3rdgen. I don't think I'll ever sell her right now but things change as time passes. Everyone knows you never get back what you invested but that doesn't matter if you keep her til it's all over. The money I'll spend boosting her could go towards a new ride... I figure around 3 grand to 3500 after all is said and done without any major problems. As far as this thread is concerned everything is all good and let's keep the 3rd Gen forum up fellas!!!

 

I'd be worried about the autotragic tranny after boosting her. Those suck as is, and throwing on extra power won't make it last any longer. The general idea on these forums is that they are some crappy transmissions. I can also say that from experience when I had my 93'GXE. Rebuilt 3 times in 6 months.

 

Yeah, gonna have to swap that out for a 5 speed, I like stick better anyway.

 

I hate stick in NY.. Especially during rush hour

 

The LIE is MURDER round 5 during the week, I work on the Island and don't go out West that much any more. I use to be in BK like every other day... not in the same line of business no more. M/T is sweet out East around the Hamptons...my brother works for the MTA out in College Point and is sick of the drive.

 

Yeah, LI roads look pretty sweet to drive on. Went out to Medford Autowreckers a few times.. That rip off place!

 

My man that is soo ****iin' funny you say that about Medford Auto Wreckers...there some crooked **** ***** Fuuckas!!! Mobsters don't really want your business when it comes to there auto wreck yard. I'm not saying that place doesn't make money but it's not there main source of dough. I got family over in Medford and will never go over there for shyt anymore. They do have quite a few 3rd gens though... I found this place in Westhampton, J&V auto wreckers(pick n pull), they have about 5 or 6 3rdgens and there pcies are good for LI.

 

ive been driving a vg30e since i was 16 my dad bought it new in 89 im 28 now and i just bought a ve30 max and i must say ive been missing out the body aint that great and the back window broke but for 200 dollars 122,000 miles she runs faster than my 300zx n/a 2plus2 its like driving a monster. my timing tensioner just broke on the vg after i put on new belt bent the valves im currently swapping the motors and already have the wiring done just need to pull the motor

 

Are you swapping the VE30DE into the VG shell...give us the details about the wiring and such .

 

after weeks of wondering should i attempt it, and reading about which i only found one write up. basicly you need the donor car which i have. once you pull out the vg30e remove the wiring harness and ecu. then you have to pull all the rest of the harness that controls the lights and the fuse box because the ve30de has an extra fuse box for the coil packs. then you pull all that wiring through the fire wall near the fuse box in the car and disconnect every thing thats connected. it seems hard but once you get started maybe one and half hours to pull of course you need to remove the plastic covering under drivers side fender to get it. then you do the same on the ve30de and put it in your car which i have done and switched fuel pumps . write now i have every thing disconnected on the donor car just need to remove the motor mounts and tranny mounts and pull out motor just been busy working and its been cold and rainy here. you will also need the hubs because the ve axles are a little bigger if you can pull a motor youd see this is a simple swap

 

In for pics

So we'll now have our second VE to VG shell swap?

 

is that all its been done on here

 

[quote=madmax123;7895417]after weeks of wondering should i attempt it,
Go for it man, a VE in a GXE body...I wouldn't mind that at all, you'll have all the luxury options of the GXE and sportier motor of the SE/VE. You know what I can't understand is why they never made a limited edition with the vg30et???? Sales would have sky rocketed...I know they wanted the sales of the fair lady up but once they had the twin turbo 300 they could of made it happen. It would have been sick... maybe some special ground effect/wheel package and a special leather interior set up. Oh well, I guess I have to build that myself. Just hearing you post about swapping the VE into your GXE gives me the mental motivation to boost my GXE...even with the A/T to M/T obstacle in the way. Swapping out the A/T for a M/T is not something I suggest/recommend. Ive swapped manuals into Mustangs/Camaros/Firebirds before and ended up with wheel hop until improving the frame/suspension. My point is that the GXE wasn't meant to be a sporty ride, the SE was. We all know besides swapping trannies, when you add more power to your ride there will be traction problems, some twisting of the frame at times. Besides hooking up the suspension...which I'm doing...you have to strengthen the frame. Maybe some sub frame connectors to go with the strut tower brace I have. I'm ranting now...can't wait to see your progress and it's good to read some exciting post in the 3rdgen realm, keep it up.

 

well its a 89 se black leather interior no cracks perfect condition i went through courtesy nissan bought energy suspension bushings for the rear and oem everywhere else ive had lowering spring on it already and every other part i just need the warpspeed y pipe and underdrive pulley i also have the vg30et turbo manifolds i plan on turboing my wifes 91 se ill take pics soon

 

The VE I'm driving was once a VG...the fuel pump is wired differently, change the accelerator cable, ASCD cable, heater core (VE uses bigger hoses), waterc0ck, cooling unit so you can hook up the VE AC compressor...getting the horn and turn signal to work will take some cutting and splicing. I pin swapped the 15A fuel pump fuse into the VG fuse box. Swap the power steering piping so you can plug up the PS oil pressure sensor. And all that's if you have a model earlier than 1992. Hope that helped.

 

He will be third...I already did the second swap..

 

i got all that other stuff swapped over already i heard about the fuel pump wiring i couldnt exactly find that thread whats different

 

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/maxima/1994/ec.pdf

Go to page (10) to see the VG setup then go to page (158) to see the VE circuit. Cut out the safety relay you don't need it. The coil side of the fuel pump relay should be untouched...one end of the contact side goes to 12V and the other goes to the + connection on the pump and the - connection on the pump goes directly to ground.

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/maxima/1994/foldout.pdf

Go to page (9) to see the color code of the wire you'll be working with.

 

well i finnally got the motor and trans all hooked up and the wiring a/c only need the heater hoses hooked up and the transmission shift linkages. im guessing that all the wiring for the fuel pump i do at the fuel pump correct or not.