hey hows it going guys since I never really know when im going to be on the internet im going to take the opprotunity now to ask another one of my scholar questions and hope its going to be 6 page hit thread with 5000+ views lol jk so i pretty much already asked the question.

92 Se 5spd+vlsd 196k maintained well...is it wise to turn the camshaft position sensor clockwise for advanced timing..or am i wasting my time and allowing extra strain on the engine? hope people have some interesting things to say and this doesnt get sunk back deep within the 3rd gen archives. thanks again everyone!

 

No!!! .

 

Do it and report back when the motor goes BOOM.

 

lol thanks guys but come on gimme a lil details without flaming me what would happen, so this isnt something typical to do huh?

 

I say do it. make sure the ks is working properly, and make sure to only use premium gas.
196k is fine, especially if the maintenance is fine. it wouldn't be worse than doing it at 100k.

 

wow really? i cant.possibly get two totally opposite answers like this? benstoked your like my pal brudda.bob whos feels the engine is perfectly.capable.of handleing wayy more but idk anybody else gonna chime in? ...please? lol

 

Interesting question. Id also like to do it to mine w/173k. Would it put any extra strain on the VTCs?

 

Shouldn't you be moving the sensor counter-clockwise to advance it?????

 

how would it put strain on the VTC's? you're talking about advancing the spark timing, not the valve timing.

 

i wish elusive was here to answer my question in a demeaning obnoxious manner. At least my question would have been answered lol

if its only the spark timing thats being advanced whats the.big deal then??

 

cuz it can still cause pinging/detonation if you go overboard and/or don't use premium fuel and/or have an engine so poorly maintained that there is a significant variance between cylinders (like compression and injector flow) that would cause some cylinders to run hotter than others.

basically when you start bumping your ignition timing you are shrinking your safety margins drastically, to where if your engine isn't in great shape, bad things will happen if you step outside said margins.

 

thanks.a lot Ben that was exactly the answer i was looking for, that was put very nicely too. I have always used premium gas in the ve and to my knowledge since 137k it has been treated royally. After what you said tho I would want to make sure my engine could handle it tho first, it seems too risky now lol..

 

psh. I know the vg and the ve are different motors, but if I were to want more power out of my 270k motor, I would bump the timing.
then again, I am just waiting for the motor to explode, so I can put a younger one in

 

lol i see where your coming from on that but to me my ve is still fairly young and i.dont really have the times or funds to take a risk like that..tho i rly want to... Guess ill have to make it to races with stock timing.

 

I had my timing advanced on my old black VE right up until I sold it at 196k.

I say have at it. Though I doubt you'll really feel any difference. I never really felt any noticeable difference, but have at it.

 

well it also depends how much you're talking about advancing it.. bumping it 2 degrees vs bumping it 7 degrees has a lot to do with how good of an idea it is..

 

james pal its always a pleasure hearing your two cents man! but idk the combo of you saying its a non noticeable difference and what benstoked said i dont feel.too comfortable now..i was thinking it would make a nice noticeable difference.but i guess ill try else where.

true def makes sense, but would I really tell a difference Performance wise if i turned it 7° as opposed to 2°?

 

2 or 3hp maybe.. not worth the reliability risk to go that far beyond stock. People put theirs +5 and run it that way but i wouldn't do that if it gets over 90 * alot during the summer. or at least dial it back some during the summer.

 

personally cant see how mileage plays at all, if you do regular maintenance its just broken in, nothing different. i was going to boost the 3rd gen at 429k if the trans didnt blow (and the engine started knocking the day it was taken away but that was the crank blowing up i think lol)

 

something else to consider is my Maxima had unknown (and presumably poor) maintenance done to it, when I got it at 190k or whatever it was. I remember I did the timing belt a few years ago, and thought how nice and shiny it looked...
and I know I have at least one bum injector, I have just been too busy/lazy to swap out the good set I have into it.

 

................. way way way too much concern here - many many motors still running with way more distance on them and still running at FSM recommended timing settings.............. irrespective of service history.

If you want to go past what the FSM suggest its ALWAYS a major guessing/"taking of chances" situation - especially if you don't know the exact history of the motor and are not mechanically inclined (to the point that you have not already investigated and reported in detail all relevant factors on your own)

 

royally is not even the word.. more like godly



pretty sure you can advance it for time attacks, but leave it stock for the endurance ones just to be safe

 

he had a VG automatic on its originally tranny and he was gonna boost it..... riiiiiight

 

lol of course a auto GXE trans would have blown, i was going to get a VE5 but with a blown engine, trans, PS leak, and all the other stuff its still 3000lb and FWD