VG30-FF Engine?????
04-06-2002, 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
look at how many turbo cars are running 10+ psi using 9:1 CR....hmmmm the VG Maxima has 9:1 CR...so wanna rephrase this???--> "maxima VG...wouldn't be reliable...it isn't built for boost"
look at how many turbo cars are running 10+ psi using 9:1 CR....hmmmm the VG Maxima has 9:1 CR...so wanna rephrase this???--> "maxima VG...wouldn't be reliable...it isn't built for boost"
04-06-2002, 08:22 AM
#42
Originally posted by Dummy
i was referring to him saying a turbo car isnt reliable, i was just saying turbo vehicles from the factory are way more reliable then vehicles with aftermarket turbochargers/ktis.
i was referring to him saying a turbo car isnt reliable, i was just saying turbo vehicles from the factory are way more reliable then vehicles with aftermarket turbochargers/ktis.
04-06-2002, 09:50 AM
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All I was doing was giving my opinion on which would be a better upgrade. I was never even discussing which makes more hp or whatever, I just said that IMO the cryo treated VG with all the head work and alla that would be a better upgrade than a freakin turbo. I have 182K miles for cryin out loud. I totally have every intention of replacing my engine between 200 and 250K, and $4K for what appears to me to be a pretty indestructable engine sounds okay. Then maybe I could start dreamin about turbos and all of that...
I'm just being realistic cause I drive my car every day and I can't afford to destroy it.
I'm just being realistic cause I drive my car every day and I can't afford to destroy it.
04-06-2002, 01:51 PM
#44
What I was saying isn't BS. I just meant that with a turbo and n/a engine (same identical engine) the n/a might be faster. The Vg30et isn't quite the same engine as a Vg30e. I was kind of stating a hypothetical situation but I didn't mean that a n/a VG, against a Vg30et w/ the same HP, would win. I know the vg30et would.
04-06-2002, 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow1198
I didn't mean that a n/a VG, against a Vg30et w/ the same HP, would win. I know the vg30et would.
I didn't mean that a n/a VG, against a Vg30et w/ the same HP, would win. I know the vg30et would.
04-07-2002, 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow1198
What I was saying isn't BS. I just meant that with a turbo and n/a engine (same identical engine) the n/a might be faster. The Vg30et isn't quite the same engine as a Vg30e. I was kind of stating a hypothetical situation but I didn't mean that a n/a VG, against a Vg30et w/ the same HP, would win. I know the vg30et would.
What I was saying isn't BS. I just meant that with a turbo and n/a engine (same identical engine) the n/a might be faster. The Vg30et isn't quite the same engine as a Vg30e. I was kind of stating a hypothetical situation but I didn't mean that a n/a VG, against a Vg30et w/ the same HP, would win. I know the vg30et would.
04-08-2002, 12:56 PM
#48
Re: This guy's gotta be kidding, right?
Originally posted by mtcookson
we can't even break what, 300 some odd horse on a v6.
we can't even break what, 300 some odd horse on a v6.
04-08-2002, 01:21 PM
#49
Originally posted by mtcookson
oh, i've never seen anyone on here claiming over 300. sorry. who all does?
oh, i've never seen anyone on here claiming over 300. sorry. who all does?
2. Turbomax1's turbo VG 3rd gen (~290+ before it blew, I think)
3. Czar's turbo VE 3rd gen (~240 on a ~$1,000, virtually "homemade" turbo setup!)
not sure if you have heard about these 4th gen guys but...
3. Turbo97se's turbo 4th gen(I think he's making ~330 @ only 9si)
4. Don's N/A and NOS 4th gen (making around 325-350, runs low 12's on juice) and its AN AUTO
5. SX7r NOS 4th gen (~300 w/ 400+ torque I think)
6. Mardigrasmax SC/NOS 4th gen (~300+, runs 13.2s)
04-08-2002, 02:01 PM
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I'd just love to join this BSing contest, but it would be like blowing up whales with nukes in a barrel.. Just too easy.. LOL
04-08-2002, 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Lordrandall
You are all talk kiddo.
You are all talk kiddo.
Hrm..
04-08-2002, 03:40 PM
#53
Originally posted by Maximamike
There's a whole world of Maxima's out there that most people are oblivious to. You know, T66 powered 3rd gens.. T78 powered 1st gens.. and stuff like that.. Oh wait, maybe you guys don't know them?
Hrm..
There's a whole world of Maxima's out there that most people are oblivious to. You know, T66 powered 3rd gens.. T78 powered 1st gens.. and stuff like that.. Oh wait, maybe you guys don't know them?
Hrm..
04-08-2002, 03:41 PM
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Well, Trust/GReddy Japan makes a T66 manifold for the Z31.. Opps..
04-08-2002, 04:19 PM
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Turbo97Max, is making 352hp and 349 ft-lbs of torque at 9.3psi with stock engine and tranny.
and i think this "500+ hp crx" is BS
and i think this "500+ hp crx" is BS
04-08-2002, 05:19 PM
#57
Originally posted by Dummy
and i think this "500+ hp crx" is BS
and i think this "500+ hp crx" is BS
...some of you need to take a step down from talking all of this "tech stuff" you think you know and do some real research that goes past reading SCC and Import Tuner mags....cause the more some of you talk the deeper you dig yourselfs! For your own sakes.....
04-08-2002, 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by mtcookson
he says it's his street car. just doesn't seem like a too believable story.
he says it's his street car. just doesn't seem like a too believable story.
04-08-2002, 05:35 PM
#59
Originally posted by mtcookson
unless the thing was so built up he would be spending like, 10,000 on internals alone.
unless the thing was so built up he would be spending like, 10,000 on internals alone.
"top secret internals" so that would explain the 1.6L ability to take the added stress now wouldn't it....
and just because the tach reads 8K doesn't mean thats its, technology is a wonderful thing....you have so much to learn!!!!
04-08-2002, 05:42 PM
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you're not listening....since he said he used "sceret internals" obviously the engine is strong enough to handel the added stress of being able to rev into the high 9Ks...its nothing new!!! having an aftermarket tach is irrelevant....
Originally posted by mtcookson
hmm.. so i did miss that one. on the tach thing, i know he could have gotten an aftermarket tach that read whatever he wanted it to. i'm just saying, the engine red lines at 7000 and jumping it up 1800 seems just a little dangerous without proper "items"
hmm.. so i did miss that one. on the tach thing, i know he could have gotten an aftermarket tach that read whatever he wanted it to. i'm just saying, the engine red lines at 7000 and jumping it up 1800 seems just a little dangerous without proper "items"
04-08-2002, 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
why?? you obviously need to look deeper into import motorsports....I guess even the 11-12 sec all motor(and NO NOS) CRXs and Civics aren't a reality so why isn't a 500+ HP turbo'd one possible ...some of you need to take a step down from talking all of this "tech stuff" you think you know and do some real research that goes past reading SCC and Import Tuner mags....cause the more some of you talk the deeper you dig yourselfs! For your own sakes.....
why?? you obviously need to look deeper into import motorsports....I guess even the 11-12 sec all motor(and NO NOS) CRXs and Civics aren't a reality so why isn't a 500+ HP turbo'd one possible
...some of you need to take a step down from talking all of this "tech stuff" you think you know and do some real research that goes past reading SCC and Import Tuner mags....cause the more some of you talk the deeper you dig yourselfs! For your own sakes.....
dont tell me to look deeper into import motorsports like you are some god, i know exactly how capable hondas with swaps are, i wasnt saying a car like that couldnt exist, i just said i didnt believe he owned that car, a b16 with that much power wouldnt be too streetable.
i probably know more about hondas then you do.
04-08-2002, 07:54 PM
#62
Originally posted by Dummy
dont tell me to look deeper into import motorsports like you are some god, i know exactly how capable hondas with swaps are, i wasnt saying a car like that couldnt exist, i just said i didnt believe he owned that car, a b16 with that much power wouldnt be too streetable.
i probably know more about hondas then you do.
dont tell me to look deeper into import motorsports like you are some god, i know exactly how capable hondas with swaps are, i wasnt saying a car like that couldnt exist, i just said i didnt believe he owned that car, a b16 with that much power wouldnt be too streetable.
i probably know more about hondas then you do.
streetable might mean being able to drive it to and from the track andaround town like it says its his "weekend" car...it didn't say its daily driver!!
and lastly I don't give two goat ****s about how much you know about Hondas...big deal, do I own one?? should I care?? you could know everything, and come on here spitting "B16 this B16 that" and I wouldn't give a donkey **** about it...hmmmmm....last I checked this was a Maxima boards when did knowledge of Hondas even matter over here...
04-08-2002, 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
you interpret what I said any way you want, I really don't care...but what you said was "and i think this "500+ hp crx" is BS" you put no effort behind it to say why, when its already evident that things like this do exist....so thats whay I said what I said...DEAL, I really don't care!
streetable might mean being able to drive it to and from the track andaround town like it says its his "weekend" car...it didn't say its daily driver!!
and lastly I don't give two goat ****s about how much you know about Hondas...big deal, do I own one?? should I care?? you could know everything, and come on here spitting "B16 this B16 that" and I wouldn't give a donkey **** about it...hmmmmm....last I checked this was a Maxima boards when did knowledge of Hondas even matter over here...
you interpret what I said any way you want, I really don't care...but what you said was "and i think this "500+ hp crx" is BS" you put no effort behind it to say why, when its already evident that things like this do exist....so thats whay I said what I said...DEAL, I really don't care!
streetable might mean being able to drive it to and from the track andaround town like it says its his "weekend" car...it didn't say its daily driver!!
and lastly I don't give two goat ****s about how much you know about Hondas...big deal, do I own one?? should I care?? you could know everything, and come on here spitting "B16 this B16 that" and I wouldn't give a donkey **** about it...hmmmmm....last I checked this was a Maxima boards when did knowledge of Hondas even matter over here...
04-08-2002, 09:46 PM
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ohh, dude, my bad. i just read your post again and you quoted somebody else. sorry, i thought you were trying to say that was your car.
04-08-2002, 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by mtcookson
Oh gosh no!! lol i would never own a honduh. i would never own a 4 cylinder vehicle unless it's a bike, or maybe a silvia...
Oh gosh no!! lol
i would never own a honduh. i would never own a 4 cylinder vehicle unless it's a bike, or maybe a silvia...
04-09-2002, 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by mtcookson
i just don't see the practicality of pulling that much horse power out of an engine that could fit in a motorcycle. I don't know why no noe does anything to those newer accord v6's. those things will scoot. i actually wouldn't mind owning an accord v6 2 door as long as it would have a 5 speed.
i just don't see the practicality of pulling that much horse power out of an engine that could fit in a motorcycle. I don't know why no noe does anything to those newer accord v6's. those things will scoot. i actually wouldn't mind owning an accord v6 2 door as long as it would have a 5 speed.
04-09-2002, 02:41 PM
#67
Originally posted by mtcookson
What i meant was, why would anyone want to own a car that has an engine that is as small as engines in motorcycles. It just seems really dumb to me. I'm not saying all 4 cylinder engines are small like that, but i'm saying honda engines are.
What i meant was, why would anyone want to own a car that has an engine that is as small as engines in motorcycles. It just seems really dumb to me. I'm not saying all 4 cylinder engines are small like that, but i'm saying honda engines are.
04-09-2002, 02:49 PM
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Dunno what to feel, pity, sorrow? Someone went to the bathroom when the brains were being passed out.
I guess all those 1,000hp 1300 liter F1 engines are the most pointless things around. Much less those 600hp Honda turbos that are terrorizing the drag strips now.
I guess all those 1,000hp 1300 liter F1 engines are the most pointless things around. Much less those 600hp Honda turbos that are terrorizing the drag strips now.
04-09-2002, 02:52 PM
#69
Originally posted by mtcookson
My point is, pulling that much power out of a such a small engine seems pointless.
My point is, pulling that much power out of a such a small engine seems pointless.
x10
04-09-2002, 03:04 PM
#70
Originally posted by mtcookson
you would have to rebuild something that small everytime you ran it almost when pulling that much horse power.
you would have to rebuild something that small everytime you ran it almost when pulling that much horse power.
04-09-2002, 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by mtcookson
ok, take a big engine say ours ok. 3 liter v6 give it 500 horse power. Get a honda 1.x or even 2.2 and give it 500 *****. Give both the same type of internals needed. Which do you think will last longer and run better?
ok, take a big engine say ours ok. 3 liter v6 give it 500 horse power. Get a honda 1.x or even 2.2 and give it 500 *****. Give both the same type of internals needed. Which do you think will last longer and run better?
04-09-2002, 03:14 PM
#72
1500CC 4 cylinder turbos+F1 = 1,000+hp for the duration of the whole race.
Mr2 2.0 liter turbos street driven 400hp+
SR20DETs 2.0 4 cylinder turbos. 200hp stock. 300hp+ easy. 350hp+ possible.
Many Honda turbos running 500hp+ at the race track. 400hp Honda Endyn Sc'd 4 cylinder motors. DAILY DRIVEN!
Merkur 2.4 liter turbo and SVO Mustang turbos. 175-220hp stock. Iron block and head + IC and boost controller = massive hp(300-400hp+)
DSM 2.0 turbos. about 190hp stock. Modded sky is the limit. Try 400hp+
Chrylser 4 cylinder turbos. 2.2 charger/GLH and minivan! Yes Minivan in the 12's. Do the freakin' math on how much hp is needed to get that damn brick into the 12s. He drove it there and then drove it home.
For the love of everything holy in this world, do some research before opening your hatch. If you get owned anymore you gonna have to start making payments!
Mr2 2.0 liter turbos street driven 400hp+
SR20DETs 2.0 4 cylinder turbos. 200hp stock. 300hp+ easy. 350hp+ possible.
Many Honda turbos running 500hp+ at the race track. 400hp Honda Endyn Sc'd 4 cylinder motors. DAILY DRIVEN!
Merkur 2.4 liter turbo and SVO Mustang turbos. 175-220hp stock. Iron block and head + IC and boost controller = massive hp(300-400hp+)
DSM 2.0 turbos. about 190hp stock. Modded sky is the limit. Try 400hp+
Chrylser 4 cylinder turbos. 2.2 charger/GLH and minivan! Yes Minivan in the 12's. Do the freakin' math on how much hp is needed to get that damn brick into the 12s. He drove it there and then drove it home.
For the love of everything holy in this world, do some research before opening your hatch. If you get owned anymore you gonna have to start making payments!
04-09-2002, 03:16 PM
#73
Originally posted by mtcookson
ok, take a big engine say ours ok. 3 liter v6 give it 500 horse power. Get a honda 1.x or even 2.2 and give it 500 *****. Give both the same type of internals needed. Which do you think will last longer and run better?
ok, take a big engine say ours ok. 3 liter v6 give it 500 horse power. Get a honda 1.x or even 2.2 and give it 500 *****. Give both the same type of internals needed. Which do you think will last longer and run better?
OMG...please stop??? if you're using the same internals with the same specs under the same stresses(ie-driving conditions, boost, etc.)why would one last longer than the other just caue one engine has more liters??once again WOW
....please do some more research!
04-09-2002, 03:25 PM
#74
Originally posted by mtcookson
a smaller engine pulling a high amount of ***** power will not out last a larger engine pulling the same ***** power.
a smaller engine pulling a high amount of ***** power will not out last a larger engine pulling the same ***** power.
and you were gonna put together a turbo kit......
04-09-2002, 03:29 PM
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i think the main reason people try and get hp outta small 4cyl hondas is surprise factor, thats why i bought my maxima. i also was planning on getting a 5th gen civic hatch, gsr swap and boost will get you into the high 12's with only about 250hp. those things weigh just over 2k lbs. you wouldnt need much power to get it moving, but the people who usually get alot of power out of those engines are most of the time rich as hell and fully build the entire motor.
friend here in austin dropped a stock h22 prelude motor in his crx and and is running low 13's....stock.
friend here in austin dropped a stock h22 prelude motor in his crx and and is running low 13's....stock.
04-09-2002, 03:32 PM
#76
Originally posted by mtcookson
"1500CC 4 cylinder turbos+F1 = 1,000+hp for the duration of the whole race."
they can't turbo anymore
"1500CC 4 cylinder turbos+F1 = 1,000+hp for the duration of the whole race."
they can't turbo anymore
What the hell does that got to do with anything moron!?
"Mr2 2.0 liter turbos street driven 400hp+
SR20DETs 2.0 4 cylinder turbos. 200hp stock. 300hp+ easy. 350hp+ possible.
Many Honda turbos running 500hp+ at the race track. 400hp Honda Endyn Sc'd 4 cylinder motors. DAILY DRIVEN!"
Would they out last a 3 liter v6 with that much ***** daily driven?? no
SR20DETs 2.0 4 cylinder turbos. 200hp stock. 300hp+ easy. 350hp+ possible.
Many Honda turbos running 500hp+ at the race track. 400hp Honda Endyn Sc'd 4 cylinder motors. DAILY DRIVEN!"
Would they out last a 3 liter v6 with that much ***** daily driven?? no
LOL!!!!!! domestics!! yeah right!! those things don't even last a week off of the lot. now if you are talking about old old mustangs, like 60's 70's, ok yeah, but you're not.
domestics!! yeah right!! those things don't even last a week off of the lot. now if you are talking about old old mustangs, like 60's 70's, ok yeah, but you're not.
WTF did I just say to you? Many of those cars are daily driven. WTF does that mean to you??
Laugh at me?? Right
04-09-2002, 03:34 PM
#77
BECAUSE WE KNOW "THEY" CAN DO IT. 500-600HP IN A MAXIMA IS CERTIANLY POSSIBLE. BUT AIN'T NO WAY IT'S COMING FROM YOU IN THE NEXT FEW LIFETIMES!
Originally posted by mtcookson
and also, if those hondas pulling 400-600 some odd horse are daily driven and everyone is like, yeah that's possible, why was i getting flamed off my a$$ for saying i wanted to have a daily driven 400-600 hp maxima...???
and also, if those hondas pulling 400-600 some odd horse are daily driven and everyone is like, yeah that's possible, why was i getting flamed off my a$$ for saying i wanted to have a daily driven 400-600 hp maxima...???
04-09-2002, 03:51 PM
#78
Because it was so PLAINLY clear from the beginning, it hurt my head. Now it's downright irritating!
Originally posted by mtcookson
then why then hell was i gunneed down about it before anyone even knwe me and said it was impossible!!!!!!!??????????
then why then hell was i gunneed down about it before anyone even knwe me and said it was impossible!!!!!!!??????????
04-09-2002, 04:14 PM
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I'm offended! I'm a big red X!
See now instead of considering what I've said, you now just try to flame.
Didn't I tell you you to take about 2 years of classes before considering all this?? Or did that suggestion also fall on deaf ears?
See now instead of considering what I've said, you now just try to flame.
Didn't I tell you you to take about 2 years of classes before considering all this?? Or did that suggestion also fall on deaf ears?
Originally posted by mtcookson
They're the same as cops. They enforce, therefore they abuse...
do i get in trouble now?
They're the same as cops. They enforce, therefore they abuse...
do i get in trouble now?