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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 11:24 PM
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Help me win 100 dollar bet and destroy all those that doubt the max!

My friend who has a Honda Civic Vtech doubted the power of my max. Of course I dusted him by around 4 car lengths would of been more but slowed down. Anyway, he made a 100 dollar bet that my maxima will dyno under 225 hp at the wheel street thats around 180 hp at the dyno? I have a budget y-pipe, (ordering next month frankencar intake), and have a custom muffler. Do you guys think I can win the bet or should I do another upgrade? If so what do you recommend, I was thinking of getting a NOS kit since I would have a $100 dollar spot but if any cheaper mods out there I would take it.
Old Jul 12, 2002 | 11:28 PM
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hate to say it but there's now way your gonna dyno at 225 at the wheel with only a y-pipe and muffler. youll definetely need nitrous or some sort of FI to get 225 to the wheels. Take Care
Old Jul 12, 2002 | 11:29 PM
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Re: Help me win 100 dollar bet and destroy all those that doubt the max!

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My friend who has a Honda Civic Vtech doubted the power of my max. Of course I dusted him by around 4 car lengths would of been more but slowed down. Anyway, he made a 100 dollar bet that my maxima will dyno under 225 hp at the wheel street thats around 180 hp at the dyno? I have a budget y-pipe, (ordering next month frankencar intake), and have a custom muffler. Do you guys think I can win the bet or should I do another upgrade? If so what do you recommend, I was thinking of getting a NOS kit since I would have a $100 dollar spot but if any cheaper mods out there I would take it.
225 at the wheel? or do you mean at the crank?
Old Jul 12, 2002 | 11:31 PM
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hate to say it but there's now way your gonna dyno at 225 at the wheel with only a y-pipe and muffler. youll definetely need nitrous or some sort of FI to get 225 to the wheels. Take Care
I don't want to DYNO at 225 I want that power on the street. I figure the max already has 190 HP, intake will give it 8 hp + y-pipe 10-15 hp, + muffler 8 hp ? You do not think it is possible.
Old Jul 12, 2002 | 11:36 PM
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your muffler gave you 8hp where did u get it, i want one
Old Jul 12, 2002 | 11:45 PM
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At the crank, correct!
Old Jul 12, 2002 | 11:47 PM
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Muffler- 8 HP I'm pretty sure a muffler gives you no more than 1 HP
Old Jul 12, 2002 | 11:52 PM
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Originally posted by DTR Maxima
your muffler gave you 8hp where did u get it, i want one
I meant exhaust.
Old Jul 13, 2002 | 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by orgasmicNYC


I meant exhaust.
A full exhaust system on a Maxima does still not produce 8 HP at the wheels. From what I've heard around here it gives you about 2-5 HP if you're lucky.
Old Jul 13, 2002 | 12:57 AM
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if your talking 180 at the crank i think it will be damn close but im not sure. if 100 isnt a very big deal to lose i would do it just because you can have the opprotunity to make money
Old Jul 13, 2002 | 03:06 AM
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You're taking a big risk...add a few more bolt-ons...

so you're saying you have an aftermarket cat-back right? what kind?

Also, you won't take advantage of your exhuast setup without a cone filter. At least get one of those before your dyno run.
Old Jul 13, 2002 | 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by SeBlackMax97
if your talking 180 at the crank i think it will be damn close but im not sure. if 100 isnt a very big deal to lose i would do it just because you can have the opprotunity to make money
our car is 190 at the crank... i think you mean 180 at the wheels it will be damn close...
Old Jul 13, 2002 | 08:54 AM
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Why not buy a 100shot NOS and bet him 200 that you will dyno over 250hp!
Old Jul 13, 2002 | 09:12 AM
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Ok 180 at the wheels is a lot more realistic. Did you say you had an auto or 5spd? Most auto's I know that dyno their cars up here with CAI,y-pipe,full catback exhaust only put down about 165-170 to the wheels. Im sure there are Max's that put down more than that with those mods but im just sayin the ones up here only put down that much. It will be close but youll need an intake atleast to help your exhaust. Since youll already have a $100 start just get a nitrous kit and youll be well over that. Take Care
Old Jul 13, 2002 | 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by 97ABMAX
Ok 180 at the wheels is a lot more realistic. Did you say you had an auto or 5spd? Most auto's I know that dyno their cars up here with CAI,y-pipe,full catback exhaust only put down about 165-170 to the wheels. Im sure there are Max's that put down more than that with those mods but im just sayin the ones up here only put down that much. It will be close but youll need an intake atleast to help your exhaust. Since youll already have a $100 start just get a nitrous kit and youll be well over that. Take Care
Should I get the NOS #5124 kit with a 50 shot? Thanks.
Old Jul 13, 2002 | 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by 97ABMAX
Ok 180 at the wheels is a lot more realistic. Did you say you had an auto or 5spd? Most auto's I know that dyno their cars up here with CAI,y-pipe,full catback exhaust only put down about 165-170 to the wheels. Im sure there are Max's that put down more than that with those mods but im just sayin the ones up here only put down that much. It will be close but youll need an intake atleast to help your exhaust. Since youll already have a $100 start just get a nitrous kit and youll be well over that. Take Care

A stock 5spd usually dynos at about 150 at the wheels......autos put down about 140. no matter how many bolt ons you put on, it will be pretty much impossible for it to reach the amount of HP produced at the crank(nitrous is not considered a bolt on)
Old Jul 13, 2002 | 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by 95emeraldgxe



A stock 5spd usually dynos at about 150 at the wheels......autos put down about 140. no matter how many bolt ons you put on, it will be pretty much impossible for it to reach the amount of HP produced at the crank(nitrous is not considered a bolt on)
What is the min. shot of nitrouse I can do without any other modifications. I'm looking towards a 30-50 shot. So if I just buy the kit and install it without doing any fuel, guage, etc upgrades.
Old Jul 13, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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i just bought the zex kit that came with the 55 65 and 75 shots. i think you can run a 75 shot of nitrous safely on our cars without up grading fuel pump and stuff. i got my kit for 465 shipped brand new. check out importcarpartslus.com they have different kinds of nitrous also they seem to have pretty good deals.
Old Jul 13, 2002 | 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by 95emeraldgxe


autos put down about 140.
that's it??!! man that sux

i think that's too much hp loss
Old Jul 13, 2002 | 09:03 PM
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You really need to tell people what yr, model, and mods you already have to be able to answer your question. My personal experience from several trips to the dyno is this:

My 95 GLE auto with WS Y, stock cat, custom cat-back, comptech muffler, PR CAI, Walbro fuel pump, and Iridium plugs I dyno'd at 170 something to the ground. I also have N2O. With the N2O engaged the numbers jumped up according to my shot (70 shot right now). 230 something to the ground with the juice flowing (you gotta factor in a little loss for the tranny).

My advice to you, seriously, is to really research before you go to "just hooking up nitrous" to your ride. It isn't a very difficult install, if you have the tools and knowledge. It is very cost effective, $500 for up to 100 HP. It is also very easy to really mess things up if you don't know what you're doing. N2O is great as long as you know what you're doing. Rookies should stay with a 50 shot until they have other acc. and experience to move up to the bigger shots.

If you are looking for 180 to the ground N/A, you got to do a little more work and some more parts to get there. It's close, but you gotta remember that the advertised numbers are not actual street numbers.
Old Jul 13, 2002 | 09:59 PM
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Whats the lowest shot I can do with N20? A 30 shot?
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 02:07 AM
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5 Words my man......CAI
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