Nealoc187

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Best times of the night were a pair of 14.519s, exactly the same down to the 1/1000th of a second. Thats the 2nd week in a row that has happened, but last time they were 14.44s. Trap speeds were back up to normal range, average trap speed for the night was 96.02, with a pair of 96.4s as my best.

I put the hurt on a couple of stangs tonight. One was a 96-98 cobra modded with atleast flowmasters. He had a crappy run, 14.51 @ 96.4 (banging off rev limiter last 60') for me compared to his 14.70 @ 100. He had alot of wheelspin.

The other one was a 99+ GT 5spd. Yes it was a 5spd, I made a point of looking after I beat him. He ran a 14.75 @ 95.5 to my 14.51 @ 96.4 (again banging off rev limiter the last 60 feet). To my surprise, I pulled him the entire way. I watched him in my side mirror, it wasn't my launch that killed him, or my quick shifting ability. The entire run he fell back steadily, when we were both in a gear, I was pulling. My car was just plain faster than his. How that is, I can't exlain, as I've seen them run 14.0s at 100mph before.

The only thing I wasn't happy with tonight really was that my 1/8th trap speeds were low tonight, all were in the 75s except a 76.02 and a fluke 73.9 (really bad launch on that one). Typically with my Millenia wheels my 1/8th traps are right around 76 without VI and 77 with VI.

14.91 @ 95.31....2.39 60' (yuck)
14.51 @ 95.97....2.24 60'
14.63 @ 96.14....2.29 60'
14.51 @ 96.35....2.21 60'
14.58 @ 96.35....2.27 60'

So, that was my night.

Toolrocks

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Nice, are you happy w/ the VI results or do you expect more out of it? I can't remeber but was it you that was asking about lost mphs? Those times look very nice and consistent, especially the 60's, which is something I need badly.

Cumalot

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That GT need some more practice. A guy that JAY25 knew ran a 14.4 stock in his '99-'00 Mustang GT 5spd. That was his first time racing too at a track. He could pull better times if he had more experience. Hm...seem like you still not getting the times you expected from the VI. I was almost certain that you could get low 14s at the very least.

meccanoble

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either way, u r faster than before...what do u plan on putting on next to bring u another step closer to 13 seconds?

Nismo87SE

Banging the rev limiter for the last 60' must stuck. If it wasn't for the warm weather, based on your races the car is good for 98-100mph traps in good weather. Also you might want to try these wheels. For $46 and only drag strip use its a bargain.

EDIT: try this link http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compar...rk=1&do=Search

tmkforever

"Please click your browser's back button to select a model of tire with available information. An email has been sent to the webmaster notifying him that Yokohama AVS Intermediate is not available."

Mr Cranman

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Isn't it fun beating up on the V-8's I don't know why some people don't believe me. But when I'm out on the road racing the GT's and stuff I have the same thing happen where I just start pulling on them. It is awesome. I love that feeling. =) Again congrats on the time I'm sure you'll get into the 13's just going to require some better weather and the ECU definitely wouldn't hurt!!! Stupid rev limiter

-John

Ozinga

You want this to see the
Yokohama AVS Intermediate.

tmkforever

Same thing...

Nismo87SE

I fixed the link.

tmkforever

Ah thanks man. WOW, those tires are WAY cheap.

Dave B

Don't forget that in warmer weather 99+ GTs DON'T run 14.4s stock. I can assure you that. When then temps drop below the 60s, the GTs start running the lower 14s. Right now, the 99+ GTs running at KCIR are getting 14.7-15.0@93-96mph.


Dave

JAY25

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Mustang GTs do run 14.4 in the hot summer time. Mardigrasmax can vouch for that! a friend had just bought that 2000 GT completely stock! he ran 14.4 1/4 of a mile. He was acting a fool at the track that day! but those are good runs Nealoc!!makes me want to get a MEVI!!

Cumalot

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Dave, yup the Mustang GT ran the 14.4 when it was pretty hot. Jaime and Matt were there to witness it. The guy actually pulled on a NSX out of hole, but the NSX reeled the GT down fast.

dwapenyi

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Niiice. Something about beating Mustangs that makes it especially good. You should tape a digicam to your rear passenger window to catch the look an their faces as you fly by them

DW

Nealoc187

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If I had the money for a digicam I'd have slicks and an ECU hehe.

I've seen a 99+ GT run 14.1 @ 100 stock in moderate weather at other tracks. I dont what the deal is. LS1s only trap 100-102ish at my track. I've even seen auto C5 vettes trapping as low as 99 CONSISTENTLY. I mean all night. I dont know what gives.

BC_95GLE

I had fun tonight at the track i was bein all low key and $hit trying to have some fun with this mustang, he kicked my a$$ with a smile on his face the guy ran 13.6 i was like holy crap then come to find out the guy just brought his little 2k3 Cobra down to play. 425hp at the crank ouch he made me look real silly. Brian

SkylineGTR

I'm thinking some cams and a JWT ECU will bring you well into 13s. 13sec NA Maxima, damn I wish i was that fast.

Dave B

Well, maybe where you guys live especially since you guys are running at or below sea level in the New Orleans area. Here in Kansas City where the elevation is 1100', 99+ GTs are only running deep into the 14s when it's cooler out. I've only seen one go 13s and he had quite a few bolt-ons and drag radials. I'd still take a Bullit Mustang anyday though. I think the Stangs look so much better without the spoiler. Same goes for the Maxima.


Dave

SkylineGTR

One question though, since the JWT ECU increases redline to 7000, and I've heard they can program it to go higher, but assuming the stock VQ head can handle revs up to 7500, wouldn't you also benefit from possibly a 3inch exhaust vs. a 2.5inch exhaust?

The loss of torque from the larger exhaust would be made up because you could stay in each gear longer from the heightened redline, and you would also reap the benefits of more horsepower off the 3inch vs the 2.5inch, unless the hp advantage of a 3inch exhaust is totally neglegible in an NA VQ. Sorry if i'm not making any sense, the thought just happened to cross my mind.

Nealoc187

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I dont think there's a 4th gen out there thats run to 7500rpm N/A. I know Matthel does (and beyond) on his turbo Max, but the question is, would the 4th gen VQ still be making power at 7500 to justify running it out that far.

SkylineGTR

well with the VI and cams and ECU, couldnt it be possible that the powerband would shift far enough up on the RPMs to do it?

JdawgX

"oooooo, I beat a STOCK Mustang!!!"

Who cares??? he's still stock. Give him the same mods and he'll smoke you as well! Have fun and nice driving to get those times out of your car, but you beat a STOCK mustang. And I assure you that the guy wasn't sure how to drive. They run mid to high 14s up here stick and I'm at 5800 ft.

But back to the topic. Those are some great times man. Have fun getting some more!

MAX2000JP

Mustang GT's start off with more 2 more cylinders, 70 more hp, RWD, and 97 more ft/lbs of tq. That pretty impressive that hes beating them. Also, how do you know for a fact that the Mustang was stock? Mustangs are easy to mod, but oh well. Its just the principle that a 4 door family sedan is beating a muscle car.

Dave B

I consider it a HELL of an accomplishment for a naturally aspirated FWD 3.0 liter SEDAN giving a 260hp Mustang a beating. I've done it before too. I've beat them from a roll, I've beat them off the line, I've beat them at the drag strip. Of course I've been beaten by them too, but whether you want to admit it (smae for Mustang owners) our cars give them a hell of a hard time.

BTW, if a STOCK GT Mustang is running mid to high 14s at 5800', they're yanking your chain because they are not stock. Mid to high 14s in a NA car at 5800' equates to low to mid 13s at sea level. You must be mistaking DOHC Cobra Mustangs for Mustang GTs.


Dave

Nismo87SE

So I guess the 14.6 rwhp/lbs ratio vs 15.5fwhp/lbs of the maxima is good. Also Dave B is correct there is no way in hell a stock 99+ GT runs mid-high 14s. They run 14.0-14.5s here in houston on average.

Nealoc187

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Who in the blue hell told you a stock 99+ GT is capable of 14.5s at Bandimere? I've raced at Bandimere, and there is no way on God's green Earth a bone stock 99+ GT is pulling a 14.5 there. Not in a million years.

Anywho, look at my trap speed and his. Not only did I beat him to the end of the 1/4 but I was still pulling out at the end. That indicates that my car was faster, not just that I was the better driver.

In the case of the Cobra, he was faster, I just had a better run than him, but the 99+ GT got 0wn3d in every way, shape and form.

Mr Cranman

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They ran it to 7000RPMs and the HP just kinda plateaued but no like severe drop off at like 5500 where it just plummets...I hit the rev limiter 7200...haven't figured out the best shift points, but taking it to about 6800-7000RPMs put you in a constant pull...I know shifting at redline before the VI that there seemed to be just a little power lag. Shifting around 6800-7000 bring you into the like 4400RPM-4700RPMs or so...which I think would definitley help out your 1/4 mile times. Just my thoughts, and a question about shift points.

I didn't do a search on this but when your shifting from lets say 2nd-3rd...if I were looking at the dyno graph...is it better to shift in to it near the top of your torque curve (like 200-400RPMs) or at the top of your torque curve (like right where it is about to go back down)???

-John

Toolrocks

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Maybe this will help w/ the shift calculations - if you understand it maybe you can explain it back to me. Note, that the links calculations are for a Toyota; you'll need to use the Maximas gear ratios. Check me on these but I think they are:
1st 3.29
2nd 1.85
3rd 1.27
4th 0.95
5th 0.8

Here's the link http://www.boostaholic.com/supra/shiftpoints.html It's from Andi who used to be on the boards all the time.

Chebosto

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still kinda far away from 13 second all motor eh?

Nealoc187

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Yep, with an ECU or slicks I should be able to pull it off. I've not given up yet, it just won't happen with out some changes.

Running in 85 degree weather every weekend doesn't help either.