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Old 11-18-2002 | 09:24 AM
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FALL and it's effect on your ride

It's been rainin down here in D.C. an awful lot. where I live, there are an awful amount of trees. They have been loosing their leaves for ever, it seems, and there are leaves, wet leaves and $heet all around my place.

Here's my question. My friend and I are talkin about contamanents on paint, and I said that leaves aren't as big a deal as bird dropings. He says that the leaves "bleed" some type of acidic chemical so they can decompose faster.

Fact or Fiction?
Old 11-18-2002 | 10:06 AM
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I think he is trying to sell you some BS with that crap, during the fall most of the leaves that fall are dead, so there is nothing going through them like there is in the spring/early summer. When a leaf is alive is does let out something, ever notice the outline of a leaf like on the driveway? hehe
Old 11-18-2002 | 10:07 AM
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I'm not sure about the acid thing but I'm pretty sure if you leave leaves on your car that they will screw the paint up. They screwed my driveway up and its much stronger than Nissan Paint.
Old 11-18-2002 | 10:50 AM
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Bluebird I'm not sure about the acid thing but I'm pretty sure if you leave leaves on your car that they will screw the paint up. They screwed my driveway up and its much stronger than Nissan Paint.
I never thought about that..............
Old 11-18-2002 | 11:17 AM
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Wet leaves left on your car to dry can indeed stain your paint. Especially Oak Tree leaves. A simple cleaner wax will usually clean up the finish just fine.
Old 11-18-2002 | 11:27 AM
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When leaves decompose, they do so because microbial activity digests them. When this occurs, there will be some acidity, and yes, probably enough to damage paint. But still, having wet leaves on the paint in a microbe free world, would still probably harm the paint in some fashion.
Old 11-18-2002 | 01:14 PM
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Thanks guys for the answers....... I always try to pick off the leaves as soon as I see them, but I can't always be lookin outside at my car........well I do.....

One more quickie about the paint. I have the Sherwood Green color, and it's very succeptable to streaks, swirlmarks, due to the dark color.

I have tried everything from hand buffing, machine buffing w/ polishing compound, and Meguiars Scratch X, to a professional job (paid to have someone buff the car), to get these spiderwebs out. No luck. The only time it goes away is when I wax (due to the fact the wax hides them) I use Meguiars professional Yellow Wax. It looks great after I apply and buff the wax off... but the next time I wash the car the scratches are back. Yes I use a chamois (soft) and a high quality mit (and rinse it off before dunking each time too).

Am I just gonna have to wax it all the time, or is this wax just coming off to quickly? Any ideas would be great! THANKS
Old 11-18-2002 | 01:27 PM
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I have the same color paint and it flat-out sucks. I just gave up on it and now I try to drive fast enough so nobody can see the streaks, scratches, swirls, and chips. Seriously though, I hear alot of people talking about that Zaino stuff so you might be able to find some info on that. I don't know a whole lot about paint, even though my dad has a body shop. I figure as soon as I get it nice I'll have to subject the car to another Northeast winter.
Old 11-18-2002 | 01:30 PM
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just rinse them damn leaves off .. i think ill do that soon. and all the dirt and stuff stuck on thru the raining and crappiness of fall.
Old 11-18-2002 | 01:38 PM
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Did that man, I was talkin about swirl marks


Fall does suck though.
Old 11-18-2002 | 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by Sin
When leaves decompose, they do so because microbial activity digests them. When this occurs, there will be some acidity, and yes, probably enough to damage paint. But still, having wet leaves on the paint in a microbe free world, would still probably harm the paint in some fashion.
I don't think that a decomposing leaf, and microbe degradation would be that big of a deal. Most leaves go through decomposition in the soil and become fertilizer of sorts, and soil maintains a pH level of 6-8 ( acidic is the lower).
Old 11-18-2002 | 02:56 PM
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The Meguiars site states that contamanents of any sort do pose a risk to the paint. On their customized paint care web thingy, it asks if you park by any of the following, and goes through a bunch of options (fall out, construction, trees)

It's pretty cool. This is what sparked the whole conversatino w/ my friend in the first place. I Guess it goes w/ everything else... you don't want stuff sitting on your paint. I guess everything is bad for it, except wax and poish

If we thought fall was bad, spring absolutely sux w/ all that pollen.
Old 11-18-2002 | 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by munji
I don't think that a decomposing leaf, and microbe degradation would be that big of a deal. Most leaves go through decomposition in the soil and become fertilizer of sorts, and soil maintains a pH level of 6-8 ( acidic is the lower).
Wanna bet? Go ask a botanist or a soil expert about how acidic a compost pile can get. I'd be willing to bet that a decomposing (basically any wet leaf) if left long enough will be more acidic than the average pH of acid rain in North America (yes I know pH ranges greatly in NA, thus, average). Also, let's not forget the combination damage a leaf can do just by sitting on a car by being wet. Combine the stains a leaf can leave just by being wet and the acidity that it can produce, and it's pretty obvious that one should get it off asap.
Old 11-18-2002 | 06:35 PM
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the leaves thing ****es me off too

mud flaps are extemely useful.. I have leave pieces and dirt all over the body of my car behind my wheels.. i drive almost 1,000 a week and don't have time to wash my car every day..
Old 11-18-2002 | 08:42 PM
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This just supports my idea even more!
Old 11-18-2002 | 09:02 PM
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attack of the killer leaves
Old 11-18-2002 | 09:07 PM
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attack of the killer leaves
they'll kill ya if you start sliding on em
Old 11-19-2002 | 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by Conrad283


they'll kill ya if you start sliding on em
very dangerous
Old 11-19-2002 | 07:14 AM
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Yea, my buddy (who I was having this arguement w/) just slipped and twisted his ankle in those F'ing leaves. It's all bruised and swollen now.
Old 11-19-2002 | 07:15 AM
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Yea, my buddy (who I was having this arguement w/) just slipped and twisted his ankle in those F'ing leaves. It's all bruised and swollen now.
if its bruised it might be broken ... better tell him to get an x-ray .... those leaves are mighty slippery especially when wet
Old 11-19-2002 | 08:56 AM
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His G/F said it looked broken, but he won't go. Too stubborn (plus he doesn't want to be told that he can't ski or snowboard)
Old 11-19-2002 | 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by funnylittlman
His G/F said it looked broken, but he won't go. Too stubborn (plus he doesn't want to be told that he can't ski or snowboard)
well tell him that if he ignores it, it can have a very serious long term affect ... if it is broken, it's better to sacrafice one winter instead of all the winters for the rest of his life
Old 11-19-2002 | 09:34 AM
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Yea,
Funny thing is he broke the OTHER ankle last winter..

I'll tell him, but we'll see what he decides. You're right though, I'd rather walk w/ no problems the rest of my life, than go skiing in pain one winter........
Old 11-19-2002 | 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by funnylittlman
Yea,
Funny thing is he broke the OTHER ankle last winter..

I'll tell him, but we'll see what he decides. You're right though, I'd rather walk w/ no problems the rest of my life, than go skiing in pain one winter........
where do you ski?

do you take your max on ski trips?
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