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Old Jan 8, 2003 | 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by Slowpoke
I too fell victim to the marketing hype of the Silverstars. I bought them and I love the way they look on the car, and I honestly still feel that they illuminate objects in front of me better than my stock headlights - but if i were to do it all over again, I would probably go with Xtravisions.

There is no question that the blue coating on the Silverstars blocks some of the light, making the output dimmer. The Xtravisions do not have this coating, so all of the light passes through the bulb and onto the road. The Silverstars are 5 watts over stock, but is this difference large enough to overcome the light blocked by the blue coating?

Somebody needs to do a comparison of the Silverstars vs. Xtravisions vs. stock under controlled conditions.

Daniel Stern's lighting site has some interesting things to say about these blue-coated bulbs. Note that the "Silverstars" mentioned in this article are not the same bulbs as the Silverstars sold in North America.
http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/bulbs/blue/good/good.html
EActly what i said in 1 of my posts

when u put paint on a bulb it will NEVER increase your light output, it doesnt FILTER out anything, it makes it harder for u to see
Old Jan 8, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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Were they on? Were your eyes open?

I don't see how you guys cannot see w/ SilverStars...
Yeah, there is a lot of exageration going on here. Silverstars aren't worth the money but they have the whitest light out of any stock looking halogen I've seen. I'm also going to look for stock H3 bulbs for my PIAA fogs to enhance the light to the road. I don't like the PIAA Plasma's at all.
Old Jan 8, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by deezo
I'm also going to look for stock H3 bulbs for my PIAA fogs to enhance the light to the road. I don't like the PIAA Plasma's at all.
I can't help by laugh here. Deezo, you indeed warned me about the Silverstars, and I warned you about the Plasma's.

Yet we still both went out and got them didn't we!

Old Jan 9, 2003 | 05:55 AM
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So do the Xtravisions have just a plain ol yellow look to them, or are they whiter and just plain nice?

*sorry for bein a brat!
Old Jan 9, 2003 | 06:33 AM
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Here is where I stand on this:

I am going ot recheck the stock bulbs v. SilverStars. I am not such a stubborn @$$ that i will not admit if I turn out to be wrong. While there has been a LOT of exaggeration on this thread, there may be a thread of truth to it. Here is how I view the situation now- the SilverStars do NOT illuminate the ROAD IN FRONT OF ME as well as some other stock bulbs on the road, BUT their DOWN-THE-ROAD illumination, side illumination, and overall output seems to be better. On back roads, I can see better w/ the silverstars than the OEMs. On city and semi-lit roads, they are not good for short-distance illumination. As a matter of fact, if I did not drive w/. my fogs on, I would likely be in trouble for the first 25 ft in front of me.

Again, I plan to do ao new comparison, and if I am wrong, I will post to that effect.
Old Jan 9, 2003 | 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by phenryiv1
Here is where I stand on this:

I am going ot recheck the stock bulbs v. SilverStars. I am not such a stubborn @$$ that i will not admit if I turn out to be wrong. While there has been a LOT of exaggeration on this thread, there may be a thread of truth to it. Here is how I view the situation now- the SilverStars do NOT illuminate the ROAD IN FRONT OF ME as well as some other stock bulbs on the road, BUT their DOWN-THE-ROAD illumination, side illumination, and overall output seems to be better. On back roads, I can see better w/ the silverstars than the OEMs. On city and semi-lit roads, they are not good for short-distance illumination. As a matter of fact, if I did not drive w/. my fogs on, I would likely be in trouble for the first 25 ft in front of me.

Again, I plan to do ao new comparison, and if I am wrong, I will post to that effect.
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Today is a good day.. high of 63 What a nice time to try it out. If you need any other local input, let me know. I'll swing by
Old Jan 9, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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headlights are made for longdistances

fog lights are made for short distances

to aim your lights u need to be back 25ft on level ground..if a light cant project 25 ft then its not worth having on your car

i admit i was being a bit harsh on osram. But if u pay a lot of money for a "top quality" bulb and they dont even project 25 ft to the ground, then why would ANYONE buy this bulb?

i am not afraid to admit im wrong..but if more then HALF the people say they feel the same way i do then why would u try to change our minds?
Old Jan 9, 2003 | 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by Unibomber
i am not afraid to admit im wrong..but if more then HALF the people say they feel the same way i do then why would u try to change our minds?
Do a quick search. I am not trying to change the minds of 1/2 of the silverstar users on this boards.

I would estimate that 90% of past comments on them are positive- BUT I will also grant that you may have had a point when you noted that other displeased users may have kept quiet out of a fear of being flamed.

I guess this, like all other mods, comes down to personal preference.
Old Jan 9, 2003 | 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by Unibomber
headlights are made for longdistances

fog lights are made for short distances

to aim your lights u need to be back 25ft on level ground..if a light cant project 25 ft then its not worth having on your car
I forgot one thing about this. When i made my post about distances, I was notign that long- distance output, particularly in Dark or unlit areas, is superior. It is the >25 ft range where the silverstars are suspect.
Old Jan 9, 2003 | 08:30 AM
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ill give it a try!

Hey,this seems to be a big subject of debate ,and since ive been thinking about buying a set- anyone who's got a pair they want to "throw away" ill gladly take'em off your hands and do my own test. happy to pay for shipping BTW!
Old Jan 9, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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my thoughts

I put mine on less than a month ago, since my crappy eurolite xenons burned.
my INITIAL reaction was, "oh, this is it?" well it warmed up after a while and i wasnt terribly excited about it, but i did notice the whiter light, which at night can separate objects better and not make everything look like a blended blur. for this i say theyre better than stock.

good for looks, wont have to worry about burning out, but not worth the money or another try. but i wouldnt say theyre so crappy, i'm with phenryiv on this.
Old Jan 9, 2003 | 11:16 AM
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Re: ill give it a try!

Originally posted by PV89SE
Hey,this seems to be a big subject of debate ,and since ive been thinking about buying a set- anyone who's got a pair they want to "throw away" ill gladly take'em off your hands and do my own test. happy to pay for shipping BTW!
I have a set. I am willing to donate only if you agree to give pictures and a detail report of the truth and not yours or otheres viewpoint or oppinions. By that I mean just be honnest. I live in NYC Queens , so if you are near by , you can come collect them. If not then give your address and I will commence shipping ; with regards to you accepting the shipping charges.
Thank you.
P.S I am not joking , if you are then let me know so I do not waste my time and others.
Old Jan 9, 2003 | 03:16 PM
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Ok, lets do this....

Ok, im willing to do the test, but i would only be able to give you results of stock 9004 vs. silvers. I have to figure logistics of test and might even be able to get ahold of lightmeter to measure lumen output at certain distances. ill give you email you mailing address and you tell me how much shipping is.
Old Jan 9, 2003 | 04:08 PM
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Re: Ok, lets do this....

Originally posted by PV89SE
Ok, im willing to do the test, but i would only be able to give you results of stock 9004 vs. silvers. I have to figure logistics of test and might even be able to get ahold of lightmeter to measure lumen output at certain distances. ill give you email you mailing address and you tell me how much shipping is.
Ok now we are talking!
Old Jan 9, 2003 | 06:57 PM
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Everyone is arguing the same point here.

No one is denying the fact that, in the presence of other light sources and long distances, the Silverstars are not worth the money. Everyone agrees that the light output (color wise) is far superior than regular halgen bulbs.

I might have been exagerating a bit when I said I thought my lights were off when I was driving, but I think people got the point.

By the way, I still have my Silverstars in the car becuase overall I think they are decent, but when these lights go out I will be looking elsewhere for replacements.
Old Jan 10, 2003 | 06:03 AM
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I dont like my silverstars either. When it rains its terribly hard to see the road. Even one of my friends gives me crap about how not bright they are.
Old Jan 10, 2003 | 06:24 AM
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Re: Ok, lets do this....

Originally posted by PV89SE
Ok, im willing to do the test, but i would only be able to give you results of stock 9004 vs. silvers. I have to figure logistics of test and might even be able to get ahold of lightmeter to measure lumen output at certain distances. ill give you email you mailing address and you tell me how much shipping is.
Show us pics of what the light looks like ON THE ROAD not what they look like on your car. Stop looking AT your headlights, start looking at the road they are supposed to light up.
Old Jan 10, 2003 | 06:56 PM
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Who said anything about looking at headlights?

My 'test' would probably consist of rooftop pics of 'visual' distance light projects ON THE ROAD w/ 9004 vs. silverstars, and light lumen output at various distances in feet with the two to see which of the two actually gives the most light output furthest away. having truevisions would have been nice, but then you would have to start comparing about a half dozen other brands/types. im open to suggestions btw.
Old Jan 11, 2003 | 06:10 AM
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Compair them with the Xtravisions. You can pick them up at K-Mart. The difference is night and day on the road. Night being the Silverstars and day being the Xtravisions!
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 12:35 AM
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So who is the champion here. Xtravisions or philips bluevisions since silverstars are not worth the money?
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 02:49 AM
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Has any one here tried the Piaa Extreme White Plus ?Anyone had them on thier max?How do they look white or blue and are they better then the silver stars
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 05:34 AM
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Originally posted by ivan25
Has any one here tried the Piaa Extreme White Plus ?Anyone had them on thier max?How do they look white or blue and are they better then the silver stars
Same beautiful "looking" lights as the Silverstars. The light completely vanishes on the road when your next to another car or on wet or very dark colored pavement. A great way to waste 80 bucks!
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd

Same beautiful "looking" lights as the Silverstars. The light completely vanishes on the road when your next to another car or on wet or very dark colored pavement. A great way to waste 80 bucks!
Ditto for Philips Bluevisions. On a dark, wet pavement, which occurs quite commonly in Canada, the light practically disappears .

njmaxseltd -> I think you stated earlier that Sylvania Xtravisions do not suffer this problem; looks like next time I am State side I am gonna have to pick up a pair. Oh well at least the Bluevisions were only $20 bucks.
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd

I can't help by laugh here. Deezo, you indeed warned me about the Silverstars, and I warned you about the Plasma's.

Yet we still both went out and got them didn't we!

Yeah, we did.....

I just ordered some H3's from JCWhitney call Diamond White. There's no blue on them so I'm going to test them out.

I bought the silverstars because they are better than those stupid blue coated bulbs.
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by deezo
Yeah, we did.....

I just ordered some H3's from JCWhitney call Diamond White. There's no blue on them so I'm going to test them out.

I bought the silverstars because they are better than those stupid blue coated bulbs.
I replaced those stupid blue coated bulbs with philips bluevisions and they are great. The blue coated bulbs look good to look at but at night visibility sux. With philips i could see a definite improvement in visibility. I cant believe a 55 watt bulb is way better than a 80 watt bulb.
Old Jan 20, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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Has anybody else tried the bulbs from JC Whitney. Deezo, are you trying the H3's for the heck of it or do you know that they are better than the other ones that they are offering (H7 or their 9004 Xenon)?
Old Jan 20, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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Has anybody else tried the bulbs from JC Whitney. Deezo, are you trying the H3's for the heck of it or do you know that they are better than the other ones that they are offering (H7 or their 9004 Xenon)?
I'm trying them just for the heck of it but also to determine what is going to work for me.

At some point and time I'll go back to HID but I want a different headlight assembly all together t install them into.
Old Jan 21, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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I dont like my silverstars either. When it rains its terribly hard to see the road. Even one of my friends gives me crap about how not bright they are.
I think maybe you all haven't had stock bulbs in a while. I had PIAA Superwhites (original ones) a few years back. They were okay. Looked pretty, and high beams were excellent, but when projected on the road, they sucked. Ditto for that Eurolite **** I bought off eBay.

Now I'm back to stock. Been at stock for at least 6 months and guess what? The light disappears just as easily in the presence of other lighting and/or rain and wet roads. I agree with Deezo that I REFUSE to get HID until I can get a different housing to put them in. The stock headlights SUCK SUCK SUCK.

I think I'm going to just buy some Xtravisions because they're prettier than stock. I'm not diluting myself that I will actually see an improvement in lighting ...

And just as a side note, WTF ever happened to custommaxima's "mysterious" projector lights??? (that's rhetorical BTW)
Old Jan 21, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by Big_Ham
I think I'm going to just buy some Xtravisions because they're prettier than stock. I'm not diluting myself that I will actually see an improvement in lighting ...
I think you'll be suprised at the Xtravisions light.

I've just tried the Sylvania Cool blues, not to shabby either. Whiter light, same nice big wide beam pattern too. Much better then Phillips Blue Visions. Sylvania makes the best lights as far as I can tell. I don't expect the Cool Blues to do as well on dark or wet roadways as the Xtravisions do. Thats the trade off for nicer/whiter color.
Old Jan 22, 2003 | 06:02 AM
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Wow, you weren't kidding. These Xtravisions seriously surprised me. Finally, someone claiming 20% more light output isn't lying.

I put them side by side and drove around and the Xtravision bulb had at least 5ft of extra visibility ON THE PAVEMENT. They are a little whiter than stock (and I mean STOCK - I had my GE lights in there) and actually do have a wider, more distinct beam pattern.

Marlene had the digicam last night, so you're stuck with my verbal assessment until I can get out there and take pics. I'm not sure the pics would reveal much, but when you are looking at it with the naked eye, it's a no-brainer.

Originally posted by njmaxseltd

I think you'll be suprised at the Xtravisions light.

I've just tried the Sylvania Cool blues, not to shabby either. Whiter light, same nice big wide beam pattern too. Much better then Phillips Blue Visions. Sylvania makes the best lights as far as I can tell. I don't expect the Cool Blues to do as well on dark or wet roadways as the Xtravisions do. Thats the trade off for nicer/whiter color.
Old Jan 22, 2003 | 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by Big_Ham
Wow, you weren't kidding. These Xtravisions seriously surprised me. Finally, someone claiming 20% more light output isn't lying.

I think there the best light bulb out right now. A 9004 bulb that truly throws light on the road!

Old Jan 22, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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i'm stilll going to stick with silverstars. The only problem i've had with them is that every once in a while, when i drive by snow mounds, or any place where there is a lot of snow, the light on the snow appaers to be blue. I only notice it a little bit, because i'm watching the road, not staring at the snow. As far as it seeming like the lights are off, i had that problem with stock bulbs, which is why i've tried these different bulbs. And as far as upgrading to HID, 4000k is the best to have, not 6-8000k, that way the light is whiter, not bluish. Plus, until there is a kit with a high-beam switch or straight out bi-xenon headlamps, i'll stick with the 9004 bulbs.
Old Jan 22, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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Wow, you weren't kidding. These Xtravisions seriously surprised me. Finally, someone claiming 20% more light output isn't lying.
I think I'll pick up a set this weekend and try them out...
Old Jan 26, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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wow i was totally disappointed with the silver stars($40 down the drain) they're a much whiter light but with horrible distance. i just bought them 2 days ago and today i put my xtravisions back in. the xtravisions are much better at illuminating the road in front of you, especially when you're running 80-90mph on a curvy highway at night.
Old Jan 26, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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Here's my silver stars. Y'all see for yourselves. I like em personally.

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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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Here's my silver stars. Y'all see for yourselves. I like em personally.

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They look good looking at it but we are trying to find out if they illuminate the road. I say phillips bluevisions do the job also. Might try xtravisions when bluevisions blow out.
Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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Does anyone make a 9004 bulb that is overwattaged (more than 45/65 watts) and does not have any color-coating on them?

Also, how are those new Ion Yellow lights? I'm thinking about trying out a set I saw on eBay. I was just wondering if they'd be street legal, or if I'm going to run into problems.
Old Jan 27, 2003 | 05:41 AM
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Here's my silver stars. Y'all see for yourselves. I like em personally.

David
Stop looking at your headlights and start looking for them on the road, where there supposed to be.

Everybody looks at their headlights to see how pretty they look Who cares what they look like on your car! Check them out on the road next time. Compair your lights to the car next to you on the road. Your light will be hard to find.
Old Jan 27, 2003 | 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd

Stop looking at your headlights and start looking for them on the road, where there supposed to be.

Everybody looks at their headlights to see how pretty they look Who cares what they look like on your car! Check them out on the road next time. Compair your lights to the car next to you on the road. Your light will be hard to find.
Actually, my silverstars are just as easy to find on the road as the next guy's, and extend just as far. It's just dimmer, perhaps because the white light gets absorbed by the darker asphalt more easily. However, it does reflect light objects better.

Using fog lights make a huge difference, as they did with my stock lights.

They do look nice, looking at my headlights from outside the car, but that novelty wore off in about a week. I suppose these are a better alternative to some of the ricer solutions out there, if that's your thing. Since I would rather see the road, I will probably switch these out and try some other bulbs, but as I paid $40 for these lights, I'd like to get at least a month's use out of them. We all know about Xtravisions, but anybody ever try Philips Hi-Visibility?
Old Jan 28, 2003 | 08:10 AM
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Time to revitalize,

to those whom said they would "try" the Silverstars and compare: What are the results?
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