phenryiv1

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Please rank the harshness of the ride.

I get conflictign reports. Some say MaxSpeeds are VERY similar to H&Rs, others say that they are the harshest ride (of non-coilovers).

Anyone who has had multiple sets, please chime in!

(BTW- I have done MANY searches, which is what led me to post this question in the first place!)

RastaManMax

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Eibachs are by far the harshest, then H&R, then Maxspeed...

Sprint

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um no..

unless you riden on Maxspeeds.. you can't really comment

my cousin has maxspeeds and i have sprints..

i owned a set of H&R's for 6 months...

Maxspeeds are harsher than my Sprints

.. so maxspeeds are the harshest..

then eibach..

then H&R's

CaLSoNiC

Somewhat off topic, but which give the best overall handling to drop ratio?

meccanoble

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forget harshness, no matter what springs u go with, your car will ride a lot harsher. Might as well get something that looks good in the process. Maxspeeds are a BOOTLEG drop, u cant even tell if car was dropped. Eibach's arent that bad and i would say are ideal for those who want to get a kit, but i would prefer B&G's being they are the lowest drop out of the ones u mentioned and make car look really good.

i have sprint by the way...harsh as f*ck, and i wouldnt be able to tell if i had bad shocks or not but if i didnt want a kit i would buy them all over again...

ny96max

correction:

Maqxspeed
Sprint
Eibach
Intrax
and then H&R

Ant

matty

iTrader: (54)

Yea H&R's are the closest to stock ride you can find out there...I never knew that Maxspeeds were that harsh, have you even thaught of getting progress springs ?? I havent heard alot about them thought..Stick with H&R's

-matt

Sprint

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re-correction:

MaxSpeed
Sprint
Intrax
Eibach
H&R

ny96max

works for me

Ant

FLO_BOY

...when I bought my MaxSpeeds, everyone said "they are the closest
to the stock ride" but that the drop wasn't all that much...

which is why I bought them -- closest to the stock ride, and not
too slammed...

Now, I read posts and everyone says that they're the harshest...

WHAT'S UP WITH THAT???

FLO_BOY

ReichMax97

yeah WTF about Maxspeeds. I've always been under the impression that Sprints were the harshest/lowest and that Eibachs were up there in the harsh department as well. I was also led to believe that Maxspeeds/H&Rs were the closest to the stock ride, just not as low. Sprint is the only one I've heard that says the Maxspeeds are the harshest. Everyone that has put them on that I have seen says they ride much like stock (Jime for example).

luckee2bhere

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LETS PUT the B and Gs into that list PLEASE!

geo1317

iTrader: (17)

and where would progress springs go?

matty

iTrader: (54)

Eibachs are right up there with the sprints in hardness...

Correction...

Sprint (hard)
Intrax
Eibach
Maxspeed
Progress
H&R (close to stock)

Sprint

iTrader: (10)

sorry maxspeeds are harsher than sprints... judging you don't have both.. you can't really comment

djshawnee

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How much do progress and eibach lower our maxes? Also, would GR2's be able to handle both of these? How much harsher are these than H&R's?

I think that the "Suspension Questions Answered" thread needs to be updated to reflect this, because I bought Maxspeeds referring to this thread, and it turned out to be wrong.

Sprint

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how do you like them? do you find them close to stock?

phenryiv1

iTrader: (19)

How is the ride? I have seen pics. How far (inches) do you think the drop is?

djshawnee

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The drop isn't that much at all... I didn't notice any drop in the back... but the front dropped some... check out my homepage pg 2. I do also have stereo equipment in the back, if that has anything to do with it. I didn't measure my stock wheel well height, so I don't know the actual drop. But, the ride is harsh , compared to stock, although ive never ridden in anyone else's dropped max, so i cant really compare.

But, the guy also forgot to cut my bump stops, so that may be part of the problem too. But, because of the harshness, I might have to switch springs. Does anyone have any ideas about this?

I definitely want a softer spring, with the back dropping some more. Would progress fit my needs? Or would H&R fit my needs better? I just want it dropped a little more than what I already have. Check out my pics and give me suggestions.

PRPmax

Isn't H&R and Eibach the same company? I could have sword I read that in some magazine.

Sprint

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nope

ghetto_bill

It seems that you know what you are talking about. Can you post the drops for each, or would they be the same as the Suspension Questions Answered thread? Thanks.

Miasma

so Eibach's would give a much more sporty ride than stock yet not bone jarring and more drop than H&R? I think i am sold on eibach then.

luckee2bhere

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somebody put the B&Gs into the mix please!!!!!!!

mitch33x

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I have the Progress/AGX(2,4) setup, which I like a lot. The only other Maxima with supension upgrades that I've been in is one that had an H&R/Tokico setup. It seemed a little more bouncy, but it turned out that one of her front struts was leaking...

Keep in mind the type of struts everyone is using with their springs, an Eibach, H&R, Sprint etc. w/stock struts is not gonna be as harsh as a with AGX's or Konis or Tokicos. Also remember that the setting/firmness of the struts has an impact on ride quality.

njmaxseltd

iTrader: (19)

About time somebody posted something that makes sense here.

It's not just the springs that are causing harsh, firm rides, it's the struts & shocks everybody is using.

The valving in KYB's line up of struts and shocks is firm.

The valving in Tokico's are much softer/smoother.

If you want all performance KYB products are for you.

If you want a nice ride with a lowered look, Tokico should be your choice.

A Tokico Eibach setup is just as firm as the stock SE springs coupled with AGX's set on 2F and 3R. The only ride difference is felt when you hit larger bumps and holes. The SE spring/AGX combo absorbes it better, the Eibach springs hit them harder. Aside from that, it's a pretty smooth firm ride either way.

Couple a firm spring like Eibach with a firm strut like AGX or GR2 and you've got a hard ride. Any lowering spring will ride harder then stock. The factor you can change to make it softer is in the struts & shocks.

Everybody is so quick to say AGX's are best. Thats not true for everybody, if a lowered look and a smooth ride is what your after, then you'll need a softer spring coupled with softer struts & shocks.

95Max

njmaxseltd,

But don't you have the problem of the strut failing quicker when using a softer strut with stiffer springs?

Sprint

iTrader: (10)

my estimation

MaxSpeed - (F)1.3 / (R)1.5
Sprint - (F)2.0 / (R)1.7
Intrax - (F)1.7 / (R)2.0
Eibach - (F)1.5 / (R)1.6
H&R - (F)1.4 / (R)1.5

sidewinder740

That sounds about right.

luckee2bhere

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ahhh!!!!! somebody let me know where b&g fall in the list!

Sprint

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i never rode in them and i saw them up close and personal once on CKNY's car.. they were about the same drop as H&R's

Type97GXE

H@R's are by far the closest to stock. i myself have max speeds im about to put on but i would welcome h@r's.

njmaxseltd

iTrader: (19)

Tokicos are warrantied for life, what are you worried about? Don't drop past the allowed 1.5 inches and your ok. (Eibach or H&R)

There's guys on here that have been running Toks for years with no problems. And there are a few who've had failures too.

There have been a few AGX failures as well. Most have been due to improper installation, but still, we've seen failures.


Luckee2behere - I ran B&G's for a few months. They sit lower then H&R's and ride just about the same as Eibach's do. You need to use KYB bump stops all around and I suggest Motivational rear mounts to gain much needed suspension travel when riding on B&G's. They are a thick beefy stiff spring, red in color which match the AGX's nicely. Definately a performance oriented spring. They were a bit to much for me, so I traded for H&R's. Ask Lime how she likes the B&G AGX setup.

95Max

njmaxseltd,

There is a depression on in the let lane of 287 north in Morristown. When I had Tokico with stock springs you would know you hit it. Now I have GR-2 with Suspension Tech springs (very stiff spring) and the car does not give the man that was a hugh hole feeling when going over it but the car does rides like my Z with the struts set to sport...you feel every imperfection in the road.

If I go back to Tokico I will get a better ride? or should I get the Motivational rear mounts? FYI the ST springs lower 1.3" all around (per ST). I do think that the front drop is more like 1.5"

Thanks for you input

Chris

phenryiv1

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Do you still have the Tokico springs sitting around?

95Max

Yup, I have the Tokicos in my garage. I was really not happy with the performance of the tokico with OE springs. I had hoped for more performance since they are branded as high performance.

heems27

B&G's have the same ride quality but give a much lowered look. It almost looks as low as Sprints. IMO, B&G gives the best drop with near stock right and handles like a bat out of hell.

phenryiv1

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Wanna sell them? PM me!