5spd Conversion - axle question #2
04-21-2003, 10:05 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 5spd Conversion - axle question #2
Originally posted by Ramius83
The internals are the same, but the mounting holes and casing are totally different from ours....
The internals are the same, but the mounting holes and casing are totally different from ours....
04-21-2003, 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by Scruit
OMG... S/C, MEVI, 5spd... *DROOL*
OMG... S/C, MEVI, 5spd... *DROOL*
SC with a 3.125" Pulley
MEVI
SAFC
5spd
AND
JWT ECU!
Maybe soon SprintMax won't call my car slow anymore.
<j/k>
04-21-2003, 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by iansw
Soon to be:
SC with a 3.125" Pulley
MEVI
SAFC
5spd
AND
JWT ECU!
Maybe soon SprintMax won't call my car slow anymore.
<j/k>
Soon to be:
SC with a 3.125" Pulley
MEVI
SAFC
5spd
AND
JWT ECU!
Maybe soon SprintMax won't call my car slow anymore.
<j/k>
04-21-2003, 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by aznsap
daaaang... btw, are u gettin an aftermarket clutch?
daaaang... btw, are u gettin an aftermarket clutch?
Forgot to mention - got that with T/O Bearing for $300 shipped.
So total cost is really $900
04-21-2003, 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by iansw
Yep - ACT installed.
Forgot to mention - got that with T/O Bearing for $300 shipped.
So total cost is really $900
Yep - ACT installed.
Forgot to mention - got that with T/O Bearing for $300 shipped.
So total cost is really $900
04-21-2003, 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by aznsap
stock flywheel then? what's the benefit of using the fidanza flywheel as opposed to stock? about the locking pin and bolts and such on hlh's site, instead of purchasing from nissan, couldn't you jus pull those from the donor vehicle? i hope to eventually become one of the auto to 5-speed converters, so im jus doin my research, anyway, im happy for you iansw.
stock flywheel then? what's the benefit of using the fidanza flywheel as opposed to stock? about the locking pin and bolts and such on hlh's site, instead of purchasing from nissan, couldn't you jus pull those from the donor vehicle? i hope to eventually become one of the auto to 5-speed converters, so im jus doin my research, anyway, im happy for you iansw.
The things that hlh mentions as "buy from the dealer" are usually there for a reaosn (Like the return spring, because you want it to be brand new)
04-21-2003, 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by johnvt1111
why do you need that for a 5 spd conversion, or is that for your s/c
why do you need that for a 5 spd conversion, or is that for your s/c
The Cartech Adjustable FMU I have is tuned pretty well, but the AFC should allow me to "even out" the fuel curve even moreso.
(I haven't gotten around to tuning it yet)
04-21-2003, 05:20 PM
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hey do your reverse lights come on when you put it into reverse? i don't know if hlh's how-to included that. also, i know for the spring i should by new, but for the bolts and nuts...... can't i jus acquire those from the donor car?
04-21-2003, 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by aznsap
hey do your reverse lights come on when you put it into reverse? i don't know if hlh's how-to included that. also, i know for the spring i should by new, but for the bolts and nuts...... can't i jus acquire those from the donor car?
hey do your reverse lights come on when you put it into reverse? i don't know if hlh's how-to included that. also, i know for the spring i should by new, but for the bolts and nuts...... can't i jus acquire those from the donor car?
04-21-2003, 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by johnvt1111
can't you get bolts and nuts really cheap????????
can't you get bolts and nuts really cheap????????
04-21-2003, 08:12 PM
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OK - new problem.....2 actually
I can't find the "banjo" fitting for the slave cylinder....I've looked everywhere - it appears it was never shipped, but I can't be sure.
So we're done except for that. Nissan says it will take 3-4 days to get, but NAPA says they can have one tomorrow....hopefully they will, but I have to work 7am-7pm for the next 2 days...sucks...
The other problem is this:
It will shift into 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, and R just fine, but NOT 3rd!!!
stick doesn't even budge a little bit into that gear....just hits a solid wall.
Now, the car hasn't been started or moved, but this concerns me....any ideas/statements?
I can't find the "banjo" fitting for the slave cylinder....I've looked everywhere - it appears it was never shipped, but I can't be sure.
So we're done except for that. Nissan says it will take 3-4 days to get, but NAPA says they can have one tomorrow....hopefully they will, but I have to work 7am-7pm for the next 2 days...sucks...
The other problem is this:
It will shift into 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, and R just fine, but NOT 3rd!!!
stick doesn't even budge a little bit into that gear....just hits a solid wall.
Now, the car hasn't been started or moved, but this concerns me....any ideas/statements?
04-21-2003, 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by iansw
OK - new problem.....2 actually
I can't find the "banjo" fitting for the slave cylinder....I've looked everywhere - it appears it was never shipped, but I can't be sure.
So we're done except for that. Nissan says it will take 3-4 days to get, but NAPA says they can have one tomorrow....hopefully they will, but I have to work 7am-7pm for the next 2 days...sucks...
The other problem is this:
It will shift into 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, and R just fine, but NOT 3rd!!!
stick doesn't even budge a little bit into that gear....just hits a solid wall.
Now, the car hasn't been started or moved, but this concerns me....any ideas/statements?
OK - new problem.....2 actually
I can't find the "banjo" fitting for the slave cylinder....I've looked everywhere - it appears it was never shipped, but I can't be sure.
So we're done except for that. Nissan says it will take 3-4 days to get, but NAPA says they can have one tomorrow....hopefully they will, but I have to work 7am-7pm for the next 2 days...sucks...
The other problem is this:
It will shift into 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, and R just fine, but NOT 3rd!!!
stick doesn't even budge a little bit into that gear....just hits a solid wall.
Now, the car hasn't been started or moved, but this concerns me....any ideas/statements?
04-21-2003, 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by Ramius83
So, is the tranny actually in the car now, and you have installed the shifter? If it won't go into third, then you may have a problem. Check underneath the car and have someone try to shift it into third. It may be that the shifter rod is colliding/rubbing the support rod and not allowing it to push the tranny into third. I know that this was my problem. I corrected this be spacing the support bar out away from the tranny with washers.....
So, is the tranny actually in the car now, and you have installed the shifter? If it won't go into third, then you may have a problem. Check underneath the car and have someone try to shift it into third. It may be that the shifter rod is colliding/rubbing the support rod and not allowing it to push the tranny into third. I know that this was my problem. I corrected this be spacing the support bar out away from the tranny with washers.....
You had the exact same problem with 3rd gear, but no other gear?
Every other gear shifts amazingly smoothly.
04-21-2003, 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by Ramius83
Ian, is the tranny actually in the car now? Or are you ghetto rigging it to see if the rod shifts?
Ian, is the tranny actually in the car now? Or are you ghetto rigging it to see if the rod shifts?
Everything is done except for that hydraulic fitting I'm waiting for.
04-21-2003, 09:19 PM
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I installed the rods and got under there while I had someone move the shifter around, and I didn't see/hear anything hitting together. Guess we'll just have to take a look.
04-21-2003, 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by Ramius83
Ok, so did you check to see if the two rods are rubbing together....
Ok, so did you check to see if the two rods are rubbing together....
mtrai760 installed the rods, and says he didn't see any rubbing....
So did you only lose 3rd or not?
Anyway, I'll check it out when I get up there again in 2-3 days (have to work 12 hour days for the next 2 days)
Thanks!
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04-21-2003, 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by Ramius83
Ok, so did you check to see if the two rods are rubbing together....
Ok, so did you check to see if the two rods are rubbing together....
On that note....banjo fittings/bolts bite my a$$. Can't believe such a small thing can hold everything up....
S
04-21-2003, 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by maximase86
mtrai760 put the shift rods in, and they seem to be fine. We should probably double check it to see when someone is shifting through the gears. It was shifting into 3rd/4th fine before it went into the car. I think it will be fine once we get the car running and moving a little bit. It will allow the tranny to spin a little bit and get the synchros lined up.
On that note....banjo fittings/bolts bite my a$$. Can't believe such a small thing can hold everything up....
S
mtrai760 put the shift rods in, and they seem to be fine. We should probably double check it to see when someone is shifting through the gears. It was shifting into 3rd/4th fine before it went into the car. I think it will be fine once we get the car running and moving a little bit. It will allow the tranny to spin a little bit and get the synchros lined up.
On that note....banjo fittings/bolts bite my a$$. Can't believe such a small thing can hold everything up....
S
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04-22-2003, 04:20 PM
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Ramius - was it the tranny end or the shifter end of th control rods that was blocking your 3rd gear?
And again, was it only 3rd gear?
Going to look at it shortly.
Thanks,
IanS
And again, was it only 3rd gear?
Going to look at it shortly.
Thanks,
IanS
04-22-2003, 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by Ramius83
Ian, It rubbed where the two rods "bend" near the rod of the transmission. When we shifted ONLY into fourth, they would rub together and not allow us to shift into 3rd. But, this was my problem and may not necessarily be your problem....
Ian, It rubbed where the two rods "bend" near the rod of the transmission. When we shifted ONLY into fourth, they would rub together and not allow us to shift into 3rd. But, this was my problem and may not necessarily be your problem....
Thanks,
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04-22-2003, 08:27 PM
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Well, we checked the rods, and they don't rub whatsoever...
Still, trying to shift into 3rd is like hitting a brick wall.
I think the tranny is screwed, personally, but others tell me I just need to get it started, and let everything sync up.
Unfortunately, I can't do that right now because I ordered the banjo fitting from NAPA, and they of course got the wrong one. No clutch, no move....
Anyone have any ideas/suggesstions/analysis?
Still, trying to shift into 3rd is like hitting a brick wall.
I think the tranny is screwed, personally, but others tell me I just need to get it started, and let everything sync up.
Unfortunately, I can't do that right now because I ordered the banjo fitting from NAPA, and they of course got the wrong one. No clutch, no move....
Anyone have any ideas/suggesstions/analysis?
04-22-2003, 08:38 PM
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Ian, I never saw your tranny shift into third before we installed it, and I thought Sarin said it still wouldn't shift into 3rd when he put it back together. Sarin got it to shift when everything was apart I think, but I'm not positive. 3rd is straight in, not out, out is 4th. 
Originally posted by iansw
Sounds good - I think it may be my problem, as it shifted into 3rd (3rd is straight back on the mechanism, correct?) when we had it out of the car.
Thanks,
IanS
Sounds good - I think it may be my problem, as it shifted into 3rd (3rd is straight back on the mechanism, correct?) when we had it out of the car.
Thanks,
IanS
04-22-2003, 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by mtrai760
Ian, I never saw your tranny shift into third before we installed it, and I thought Sarin said it still wouldn't shift into 3rd when he put it back together. Sarin got it to shift when everything was apart I think, but I'm not positive. 3rd is straight in, not out, out is 4th.
Ian, I never saw your tranny shift into third before we installed it, and I thought Sarin said it still wouldn't shift into 3rd when he put it back together. Sarin got it to shift when everything was apart I think, but I'm not positive. 3rd is straight in, not out, out is 4th.
EB says that you guys had a really hard time in every gear, until it loosened up after awhile...that true?
(No, 3rd is straight back (all the way extended) on the mechanism on the tranny itself, I meant, of course is straight forward on the stick)
04-22-2003, 09:09 PM
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hope it isnt this thats causing it http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=209196
04-22-2003, 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by Nismo
hope it isnt this thats causing it http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=209196
hope it isnt this thats causing it http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=209196
04-23-2003, 08:37 AM
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Hmm, don't know what EB is talking about, sure it was hard to get in every gear, but the car also is not running, so of course its hard to get in gear, I dont know anything about it getting easier though... I don't know, I guess just get the car running and pray...
Originally posted by iansw
Sounds like you think as I do...bad tranny.
EB says that you guys had a really hard time in every gear, until it loosened up after awhile...that true?
(No, 3rd is straight back (all the way extended) on the mechanism on the tranny itself, I meant, of course is straight forward on the stick)
Sounds like you think as I do...bad tranny.
EB says that you guys had a really hard time in every gear, until it loosened up after awhile...that true?
(No, 3rd is straight back (all the way extended) on the mechanism on the tranny itself, I meant, of course is straight forward on the stick)
04-23-2003, 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by mtrai760
Hmm, don't know what EB is talking about, sure it was hard to get in every gear, but the car also is not running, so of course its hard to get in gear, I dont know anything about it getting easier though... I don't know, I guess just get the car running and pray...
Hmm, don't know what EB is talking about, sure it was hard to get in every gear, but the car also is not running, so of course its hard to get in gear, I dont know anything about it getting easier though... I don't know, I guess just get the car running and pray...
No biggie....he tends to exaggerate pretty much everything.
04-23-2003, 08:45 AM
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No, they were all confused at first, they thought the shifter was screwed up and at an angle, and thought it would only go into 1,2,3 and 4th, but they were skipping right by 4th and reverse. Eb thought 5th was 3rd... 
Originally posted by iansw
Oh - he was saying that 5th and R were as impossible to get into gear at first as 3rd is now, until they shook it around a bit....and 4th was almost that hard.
No biggie....he tends to exaggerate pretty much everything.
Oh - he was saying that 5th and R were as impossible to get into gear at first as 3rd is now, until they shook it around a bit....and 4th was almost that hard.
No biggie....he tends to exaggerate pretty much everything.
04-23-2003, 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by mtrai760
No, they were all confused at first, they thought the shifter was screwed up and at an angle, and thought it would only go into 1,2,3 and 4th, but they were skipping right by 4th and reverse. Eb thought 5th was 3rd...
No, they were all confused at first, they thought the shifter was screwed up and at an angle, and thought it would only go into 1,2,3 and 4th, but they were skipping right by 4th and reverse. Eb thought 5th was 3rd...
Anyway...this sucks....I'll find out tomorrow morning after we get that fitting in whether or not starting/moving it will help.
IanS
04-23-2003, 12:55 PM
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Well, I have afriend picking up the hydraulic fitting from the Dealership right now...
I called several tranny shops today. All of them said that i shouldn't even start the car, because if something is loose in there, it can cause major problems.
However, when we had the tranny apart, there was nothing floating around in there (although there is a 2nd stay bearing that we looked for for 45 minutes and couldn't find)
It oculd be they just odn't want me to start it because they don't want me to get it working and want to charge me to look at it.
decisions, decisions.....
I called several tranny shops today. All of them said that i shouldn't even start the car, because if something is loose in there, it can cause major problems.
However, when we had the tranny apart, there was nothing floating around in there (although there is a 2nd stay bearing that we looked for for 45 minutes and couldn't find)
It oculd be they just odn't want me to start it because they don't want me to get it working and want to charge me to look at it.
decisions, decisions.....
04-23-2003, 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by iansw
Well, I have afriend picking up the hydraulic fitting from the Dealership right now...
I called several tranny shops today. All of them said that i shouldn't even start the car, because if something is loose in there, it can cause major problems.
However, when we had the tranny apart, there was nothing floating around in there (although there is a 2nd stay bearing that we looked for for 45 minutes and couldn't find)
It oculd be they just odn't want me to start it because they don't want me to get it working and want to charge me to look at it.
decisions, decisions.....
Well, I have afriend picking up the hydraulic fitting from the Dealership right now...
I called several tranny shops today. All of them said that i shouldn't even start the car, because if something is loose in there, it can cause major problems.
However, when we had the tranny apart, there was nothing floating around in there (although there is a 2nd stay bearing that we looked for for 45 minutes and couldn't find)
It oculd be they just odn't want me to start it because they don't want me to get it working and want to charge me to look at it.
decisions, decisions.....
try cranking the engine instead of starting it with the wheels in the air. i remember i couldnt really get into gears after the conversion until the car was on.
04-23-2003, 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by skeelo34
try cranking the engine instead of starting it with the wheels in the air. i remember i couldnt really get into gears after the conversion until the car was on.
try cranking the engine instead of starting it with the wheels in the air. i remember i couldnt really get into gears after the conversion until the car was on.
Well, I guess I'll just give it a shot tomorrow morning.
IanS
04-23-2003, 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by iansw
I think there was a list somewhere - but search is gone for alot of people.
I ended up getting non-LSD, because I got a great deal on everything ($600 for all conversion parts).
Yesterday I went to the Nissan Dealer and verified - the passenger side axle is the same for both 5spd and manual...ABS or not. SO you only need a Driver's side axle.
IanS
I think there was a list somewhere - but search is gone for alot of people.
I ended up getting non-LSD, because I got a great deal on everything ($600 for all conversion parts).
Yesterday I went to the Nissan Dealer and verified - the passenger side axle is the same for both 5spd and manual...ABS or not. SO you only need a Driver's side axle.
IanS
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