Check My HOMEPAGE> Youll see an Aggressive HOOD There.

 

There's no link to your homepage.

 

Try This For Aggressive Hood.

http://www.cardomain.com/id/mdubya

page 3 is most recent, the others are kinda old.

 

I'm not worried, I just can't see the point in someont trying to hinder research on new products for our car.

 

Nice idea. Ill work on a hood for it. I would love to see how that would work.

 

I like it, but if its going to require the battery location transfer.... f*ck that

 

man I would have "NO PROBLEM" molding a scoop into the hood with a direct shot into the air box. but it would be nice to see one that we could do in one peice fiberglass. or oooooooooo carbon fiber.

 

Just no copying me please. i think we should try a few different scoops from other vendors to see what we can do. ok i guess you could copy my idea but remember the rookie that started it.
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mdubya

 

Hood scoops unless very far forward on the hood are not very functional, if you have ever sceen wind tunnel tests you will be able to see at higher speeds the wind goes over the hood.

Plurco great work it looks really nice and functional!!

I made mine using a scoop under the car since that is where a ton of air flows.



Great idea Plurco.

 

keep me updated

 

I think the plus side of your idea here is that rain and water is more difficult to find it's way up that pipe than down through a hood scoop and into the engine bay. Unless all you guys live where there is never any rain.

What kind of gains do you see from your "underscoop" ? I haven't dynoed mine to see what I gain with my underscoop setup.

 

Well if you were to add a scoop for his design it would be at the bottom of the hood anyways. The only problem is that the air will not be smooth flowing and would be turbulent unless if you directed it some how into the filter.

 

and oh yeah I have a curved midpipe, so mine is different, and you can't mount your bettery in the trunk I have a patent on a trunk mounted battery.

 

How much do i owe you cause mine is in the trunk too. Only thing is i would have put yours on the other side. Then it offsets the drivers weight instead of adding more to the left side.

 

it was a path of least resistance kinda thing. I had a peice of 4ga that was 12' long. it bearly was long enough.

 

I doubt very much that he has a patent for it. It is possible he submitted an idea for patent but grabbing cold air for intake systems is pretty much public domain. It is like FLP claiming their pipe is radically different from any other midpipe out there... "custom lengths"..."see the bend"... yadda yadda. I still won't forget them not correcting one of their customers who claimed to be able to hit 7000 rpm with the FLP intake.

 

exactly. If that type of pentend was possible then K@N would be sueing people every day.

 

maybe he was kidding... either way, he wouldn't sue another .org member

 

First off, the pipe is bent, the picture is distorted. I do have a patent on the intake. The exact same scoop and intake design is available from us. I engineered the whole system. The intake can be tuned for your application. If it couldn't AEM wouldn't be doing it. Every member that has used our intake will say that it gives them more power than our competitor. One of our customers said that his car revved to 7000 rpm. I went to see it. It did. He said it was from the intake. Who am I to argue? I believe that it did it beforehand, but he's very persistent in his statement. I've said it before and I'll say it again; don't be mad because you didn't think of it first.

* This goes to you too Plurco.

 

I still don't see how the picture you posted looks remotely close to the picture plurco posted.

Where can I buy your supposed intake which is an "exact" product to what's pictured below?



Is it this?


So what's your company website? Where can I actually see products which I may with to buy from your company?

Thanks,
Mario

 

You can't, we sell locally.

Nice car too.

 

Startin a little ruckus huh? Yeah well i will be trying out NightRider's intake soon so ill let you all know.

 

It's just not cool when there are invalid claims.

Something I forgot to mention... looking at those 2 for comparison... Call the white one Exhibit A and the red one Exhibit B

The filter can be different (we do not know for sure).

Exhibit B definately has a bend, but is an angled bend compared to Exhibit A's more rounded (and possibly less restrictive bend. Possible distortion of the Exhibit B pic? NO. Picture is fine, no distortion in the full pic (as opposed to the smaller and less clear pic posted earlier.)

Accordion piece in A is used to help flex it into place. B has a regular coupler.

Because of a longer coupler before the MAF, A has a bit more length compared to B.

B seems to have a connector for a hose on top, and the other possibly on the opposite side.. while A must have both of them close to the bottom since they are not visible.

Why hasn't it been verified that FLP has that exact same intake?

If FLP sells locally, then Plurco can market this item to other parts of the country and there should be no problem since it won't hinder local business. Also, it has yet to be proven that what Plurco came up with is indefinately the product that Richard already has patented.

Although upon searching the US Patent and Trademark Office, nothing close to air intake came up when searching... USPTO Search Result (may need some loading time)

Now I'm sure FLP's product is a fine quality product, but please don't knock other people when you can't prove something on your own behalf.

I shall be proven wrong when a proper patent number is given. Til one is given, keep on truckin' Plurco and hope you get your stuff marketed soon.

 

Hmm, correct me if im wrong somebody, but even if both products have the same pipe with a bend, arent patents pretty specific?

I mean so what if it has a bend, as if hundreds of exhaust companies dont have a similar bend somewhere.

Besides, say one bend is 9 degrees, just make the other products bend 10 degrees

 

You are correct. According to the patent office, the product either has to be unique, or a completely revolutionary modification of an existing product.

I believe you can only have a copyright of the schematic for the intake design. Only an identical product needs licensing from the patent holder. The idea of improving airflow into the engine was patented way before 1980 (NightRider's year of birth)... but as I always say... proof will shut me up.

 

If you dont have a US Patent number, you dont have a patent. PLease provide us with the number.

 

I suggest buying NOTHING from Nightrider or "Fastlane Performance". How can anyone put any faith in thier unproven (ie dyno, track) intakes? Tuned pipes and bends? Are you serious? Sorry, but the VQ doesn't move that much air. Revving to 7000rpms after the intake? It's flat out impossible. Every 4th gen is PROGRAMMED with a 6550rpm rev limiter. There is no way to go above 6550rpms unless you do one of two things:

1) Get a JWT ecu
2) Throw your 5 speed into too low of a gear at speed (ie shift from 4th to 2nd at 100mph)

Also, why would anyone take someone serious who swears their auto NA Maxima pulls on a motorcycle that is capable of reaching 130mph in about 10.8 seconds?


As for this new style of intake, it looks good. I doubt it will make much of any difference at the track because I've experimented with about 5 different types of intake setups and none of them make any measurable difference. Honestly, the stock intake is a very good design. It just needs a couple tweeks. My fastest runs have been with a stock intake and cut stock airbox.


Dave