So is Budget... T304 SS and mandrel bent to boot.
Tone is dictated by your muffler more than your y-pipe... all y-pipes emit about the same tone.
Again, all y-pipes get rid of both pre-cats... no difference in emissions from one to another.
Congrats, I could get a whole y-pipe + catback for what you spent just for the y-pipe.

I will be the first to admit that Stillen products are overpriced. There was no reason for me to spend over US$400 for a FSTB and RSB from Stillen, but I did (FSTB for looks, RSB because it is the thickest, although it is not solid, but hollow).

But there is no rationalizing spending double on a Stillen y-pipe with no advantage or difference what-so-ever between that and any other y-pipe.

 

Jime:

That is sort of bold of you to assume that simply because we sell a Y pipe we which we designed and manufacture here in the USA for $200 which is mandrel bent aluminized steel that we are laughing because some people prefer to buy our made in USA domestic product vs. the imported product that Budget sells.

We have sold literally thousands of Y pipes in both aluminized steel and stainless steel to Maxima owners and dealerships in over 39 countries around the world. We ship quite a few of our aluminized steel Y pipes to Canada.

We have a policy of using products made in the USA unless there are no domestic alternatives. We do that because we know if it is made here it is going to be of high quality which means less problems for both us and our customers and it means we contribute to the economy of our country. We know that other foreign coutries routinely refer to stainless steel which has been made in China and South America as their own, that is the main reason we don't buy the cheaper stainless from Canada.

Aluminized steel which is made in the USA will not ever turn brown like stainless and it will not work harden and get brittle like stainless. That is why we warrant the aluminized steel for 4 years against rusting out, we could not do that if we bought imported steel tubing.


Jime:
The only thing we really laugh about is when we recall one of your earlier visits to Budget a few years back, we refer it as
" le chat est hors du sac" (the cat is out of the bag) right after they (the owner) said they were using tubing which was made here in the USA and you said all the stainless that you saw was stamped Made in Canada. We still laugh about that one.

We would not laugh even if somone came in wearing a Budget shirt because we replace quite a few of the Budget Y pipe flex sections with our lined ones (as well as the Stillen and earlier version Cattm*n ones). Besides, we try to be polite and we still remember when you were agruing on their behalf about how the non mandrel bent pipes they were selling were "just as good as everyone elses" mandrel bent ones. It sounds like the shirt fits you well.

We have never been willing to settle for "just as good as". We're not perfect but we're getting closer.

regards
Dallas

 

I won't bother replying to your jibberjabber.

That is the same old stuff you post everytime I say something about Wrapspeed.

Budget Performance Exhaust does not come on the Org to support their product or to put down others.

They let their products and customers speak for them.

 

I went with Warpspeed any how guys. Budget Didn't accept Discovercard and WarSpeed did, also, From what im Seeing They're all basically the same.

 

Yeah, Y-pipes are very similar. The gains are very minimal if you were to compare different pipes.
I went with budget because of the price. The noise level did go up with my apexi ws but i don't care, my budget kicks @ss.

 

Jime:

Your earlier comment crossed the line. I think it's time for an apology.
You seem to suggest by your comment we are doing something wrong or have some reason to laugh when someone orders one of our products instead of the Budget. These forums allow one to express their opinion but one still needs facts to back an accusation such as yours.

Dallas

 

Jim's point was valid in that the Budget y-pipe is a much better value. The one-off cases that you are referring to where a customer came to you to have their Budget y-pipe's flex section replaced is just that... one off.

I bet if Budget could come on here and defend the attacks that you made against their product they too would have stories of people coming in with Warpsp... err "other" y-pipes on, that had to be replaced because of certain defects. I'm in no way flaming you or your product but you see my point.

All that being said, the T304 SS that Budget uses has withstood Canadian winters on many, many, many Maximas and Mustangs. They mass produce exhaust systems for Maximas and Mustangs. They also sell their mandrel bent y-pipes to other exhaust shops who then sell them as their own. They do not crave the recognition but as Jim said, they let their customers speak for them.

Lastly, all y-pipes will give approximately the same gains. You can check out Frank's site at motorvate.ca which showed the Budget y-pipe to give him +19HP at peak at the wheels. In my case the y-pipe did not increase my peak by that much. So every car also reacts differently to the +/- 5HP is really negligible.

Now with quality and performance being similar, the last variable is price - and that is where Budget is a huge value to consumers. The choice in the end is upto the consumer... do they want a name like Stillen, the convenience of buying local, the satisfaction of supporting their own economy, or the best possible deal. Budget Exhaust would satisfy more than just one of those criteria!

Now quit bashing each other and kiss and make up like good little girls...

 

What the f*ck did you just say? Speak english you dumb jack
*ss.

 

You crossed the line a long time ago when you started bashing Budget. I will apologize when you apologize for bashing Budget on your website and on this org as well.

People make up their own minds based on facts and experience. Budget makes a quality mandrel bent, T-304 Stainless Steel Y-Pipe that sells for approx $180US shipped.

You statements suggesting that Budget buys their Stainless Steel from China or South America is "crossing the line". You don't know where Budget gets their SS any more than Budget knows where you get yours. Your suggestions are very unbusinesslike and reflect poorly on you and your company.

 

T-304 is T-304 no matter what country it comes from. T-304 is a designation given to the Nickel vs. Steel content in a metals make up which makes it resistant to rusting. It doesn't matter if the nickel comes from outterspace if it's used in the grade T-304 then it's all the same. Saying its inferior T-304 in China or South America vs. the USA is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Thats like saying water in the ocean near the US has less salt in it than the ocean water near China or South america does. It's all the same dude, so drop that and get over it.

And for your information the mines in the Orient have larger quantities of better grades of Stainless steel available for much cheaper than the USA does. I'll bet that stainless your using is mined overseas and is melted and bent in the USA.

http://www.warpspeedperformance.com/nissan.htm

What you say at the bottom of this page completly amazes me. Your a jerk and a loser to put that on your website. Bashing your competition means your afraid of them.


You can get aluminized steel from Jesus himself and it will turn brown and rust. Aluminized steel is a particular designation much like T-304 and has no nickel content (or not enough) and will rust no matter where it comes from. Maybe because your nowhere near Snow or bad weather you have never seen it. Aluminized steel will rust in snow no matter where it comes from. China, South America, USA, Mars, UR-ANUS where ever. It's all aluminized steel. All the same grade. All gonna rust.

Your a moron. Take up a hotdog cart or something cause your lost.

 

wow warpspeed bashed Budget. That's not right. Budget doesnt really have to advertise as hard as warpspeed!!

 

Hmmm - i noticed on the Budget site they also make B Pipes.. im thinking about buying an Apexi WorldSport for a 95-96, taking the exhaust and using it with the Budget B pipe, and selling just the Apexi WorldSport B pipe alone. Sound good? does anyone kno the piping diameter on the Budget and if it's mandrel bent and stainless steel? if it's not, i'll just get a custom 3" job.

 

Yeah that is not at all cool... I was actually not aware of Budget initially and was going to buy a Warpspeed. Then I saw that bull$hit on Warpspeed's site slandering the competition with no basis whatsoever and then that's when I took a gander to the Budget site and read some reviews and bought from them... no regrets whatsoever.

Also their service has been exceptional. I guess Warpspeed indirectly advertises for Budget...

 

Im buying a Budget. I think it is the best one out there for the price.

 

Ordered Budget Y and B Pipe on Tuesday. $385 US ($510cdn) shipped!

 

Budget B is 2 1/2", mandrel bent and made of T-304 Stainless Steel.

 

man **** the budget Y pipe... bad fitment... took 6 hrs of installation... i would recommend to put out more money for the stillen or catt man Y pipe

 

Yo, the Warspeed Y-pipe has Lined flex for "no bees in a can," aslo it has a 4 year No rust Warrenty, so I think its pretty much worth the $214.99 (Shipping aldready included in price).

 

Idiots like you shouldn't be allowed to even drive cars. Since all the y-pipes are pretty much the same the install time will be identical you ****. If you were installing yourself then I feel sorry for you,you shouldn't start installing stuff if you don't know the difference between a wrench and a ratchet. If you took it to a shop maybe they should consider changing their place to a bakery or something like that...

 

if some folks here interested in a budget Y-pipe, it for sale.

it's wrapped with DEI wrapper and SS clamps.

 

I've owned a Warpspeed Y-pipe. I currently own a Cattman. But I still recommend Budget. My friend has a budget Y-pipe on his car and sounds the same as mine when I had stock exhaust. So save yourself the money and go with Budget (SS and mandrel bent). Why pay more for another product which produces the same results?

I've since bought budget's B-pipe. I have to say everything was a great experience. They shipped very fast, and they include all necessary gaskets and new hardware. The B-pipe was 2.5" mandrel bent made from Stainless steel with a magnaflow resonator. Everything lined up perfectly with my Cat and stock muffler. I've noticed better gas milage and my RPMs are slightly lower at highway speeds.

 

My experience is the same... I first just had the Budget y-pipe installed and my car sounded the same as it did bone stock. I really liked that! When I was at WOT there was a slight hissing noise at the higher RPMs sorta like a sweet sweet spoolin' turbo!

Then I added the b-pipe and it made it a tad louder but to any observer, my car still sounds bone stock. I even had their test pipe and that did change the tone, but thanks to my stock muffler it was nice and deep and quiet.

No bees in a can whatsoever from Budget.

 

i had no problems with my budget y-pipe except this hissing noise, its loud and annoying. is there anyway i can get rid of this annoying sound? or should i buy a new y-pipe?

 

i noticed that on the BUDGET web site, they have to Y-pips:
T-304 Stainless Steel, Mandrel Bent F-pipe
California Spec T-304 Mandrel bent F-Pipe

What's the difference? I do live in cali so do i need the Cali Spec pipe to pass smog??

 

The Y-pipe and the F-pipe are the same thing. They are just listed different on the website.

If you live a Cali, i think that you will need a Cali spec pipe because the laws over there are different than any other state. Call budget to make sure (905)681-4579.

 

cattman's rock. but if price is a concern, it's hard to justify the extra money for it.