Broaner

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I have been contemplating removing my power steering for a while. Well I just did it. I cut the belt to test it out. If I don't like it I will put a new belt back on when I install my UDP after X-mas. I have two questions. Is it bad to leave the fluid in the pump if its not moving for a week? Second question is more of a concern I have about drivability if I decide to keep it like this. If the fluid is removed from the system does it become easier to turn the wheel at all? Oh yeah...Almost forgot, the difference is huge. For $0 I just gained an amazing amount of power. Its kinda like Y-pipe all over again. JK. Its not that extreme but it is noticable.

krismax

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I cut my belt off also ,but i do a lot of close parking and couldnt live with it. Your rite it is a nice power gain probably about 5-8fwhp,i will dyno the difference when i complete my electric power steering project. But i dont have a garage and it will have to wait till warmer weather .

maxdick

ehh.. i didn't have power steering in my last car and it wasn't so bad, granted it was a small car with small wheels, but one benefit is your forearms get nice and strong (not even joking)

Broaner

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True that krismax. How is electric power steering done. Are there two motors, one for each wheel or what? Are there any production cars that come stock with this. If auto makers are so smart why don't they do this.

SXN

electrical power steering is like an electric water pump, just with the different rotors. Auto makers DO use electrical pumps, and they arent that uncommon because of the less drag on the engine. Its just an electric pump instead of a belt driven pump to keep the fluid moving in the system with a nominal pressure. it can be tricky making a kit for a car without it.

Terran

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If you just cut the belt I think it's harder than if you remove the power steering completely since you've got to turn the wheels and the mechanisms that used to make the power steering work.

Broaner

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But does it become easier to move the wheel without fluid in the sytem? I was thinking it would.

SXN

no. is it easier to move a hydralic part without the fluid in the system? no. the fluid is there for a reason, and even without a pump, it adds to the fluid motion of steering.

Broaner

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Reviving an old thread. I put it back on long ago. Don't worry about that. My questions/comments now are: As the car gets lighter the steering effort required is less; removing the entire PS system reduces weight. Is it possible to race(Road racing) with no power steering? I don't remember what its like. Also, removing the PS would reduce clutter in the engine bay making a much more appealing piece to the eye.

krismax

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I have a electric power steering now it will go by my battery all of it the resovoir to. And new steel lines will be run to there. The lines now are closer to that area now than were they are to the timing cover.
I will be able to adjust pressure on the fly and turn it on and off at will.
Honda engineers say 5% increase in MPG and also there is power gained through the entire powerband.

when my new engine goes in in the winter the pump gets hooked up

Broaner

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Wow! I thought you had a ways to go on this project yet. How much was it ballpark? Pics? I forgot all about the increase in fuel economy. I don't really care about that much anyway though.

TILLEYS99

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Thanks too my junkyard hookup krismax will no longer need his belt driven ps
pump

PRPmax

any pics or write ups on how to get this?

Broaner

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Did tou just grab a unit out of a Honda or something? What kinda current do these things draw?

95bluse

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Assuming the Honda electric motor just turns the actual power-steering pump, why not use it to drive our pump? Would be neat to just have it run at low rpms, and no assist at highway speed. I hate how light my steering is at speed.

nupe500

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now this is an interesting modification.....more details please

Broaner

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I agree. I really like the 20+MPH feeling of the steering with no PS.

krismax

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One its not from honda i was just quoting honda and two its a toyota pump made by DENSO .

It has no pulley on it it is self contained like a electric water pump i can mount it anywhere i like in or ouside the car on the roof or trunk if i please but my pump will be next to the battery . Im taking stock PS off and its all trash none of it will be used (only resovoir will be used relocated next to battery)
If joe works it right it will be like a dimmer light when i want low pressure i turn the **** on the dash if i want high pressure same thing. If i want completly off for maximaum HP and fuel saveings. On the toyota i got it off . It was used like a dimmer stock but the computer (pump has its own ecu on the toyota)controlled it.With drivers speed and turning input.

Terran

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Will this thing draw more power than the stock alternator can provide?

98SEBlackMax

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MR2 alternator is rated at 100 amps per car-part listings. This pump should draw like 20~30 amps when its running. Won't hurt the Maxima alternator.

s0ber

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You guys will be the man if you get that pump to work

Broaner

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That is incredible. Adjustable power steering? Wow! Although the difference between full pressure and no pressure will result in a very subtle if any power difference.

PRPmax

Put me down for one when you have them available.

kraimer21

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guys any news on the progress?

japmaxSE

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There goes my PS being that my car is on a major Diet I don't think it'll be a prob.