Current set up is H&R and Tokiko Illuminas and fstb. I've read somewhere that RSB doesn't do much with lowered suspensions. I was wondering what people's experience was installing it after they already had illuminas, agxs or gr-2s. I was also considering, sfcs, but it seems like that's a lot more work and money. So basically is the RSB worth it if you already have good struts. I'm trying to make it more stable around corners. The downside of the RSB is that it gets tailhappy, although theoretically(since it's not well proven yet) the front tie bar could balance that out.


where's a good place/price to buy RSB? I don't want to pay for stillen, so I guess that leaves addco or progress or cattman.

 

someone correct me if im wrong, but i think th RSB is there to prevent that tailhappiness...and the FSTB is what is less effective when you lower the vehicle, they both correct handling flawsbut they correct different flaws, you should look into how they function, i read up on it, and to my understanding that is the conclusoin i have come to. when a car bounces up and down, the car's tail end will jump side to side, the RSB will lock the beam so that theres only vertical displacement instead of vertical and horizontal..

 

u can get progress from custommaxima.com...

i would actually get matt blehm's LTB (lower tie-bar) w/ RSB. even though RSB aids rear sway, but it introduces oversteering. with matt's LTB it will aid that problem. he has both stage 1 and 2 in GD until may 7th.

FSTB increase the reponse of steering. a plain and simple mod.

 

RSB is there to help prevent understeer, and it has been said both are not as effective once lowered.

Derek

 

rsb affectivness is lessened when lowered.but it still helps. i wouldnt suggest setting the rsb on the "stiffest"(mounts fartherst apart) setting though. i have maxspped, on agx set at 4 in the back. it does help the rear to be more planted, but when oversteer hits, it hits hard. without a rsb, u can feel the fishtail comming gradually. with a rsb on stiffest, the rear is planted to the ground, harder and longer, but when it gives out, it gives out hard. i moved the u clamps mounts alot closer to the middle center of the car to soften up the rsb a bit. i feel it works alot better. i can start to feel my car slip before the tires give out. when it was at maxium stifffness, i had my tail swing out twice. hasnt happened once since.

 

I don't know about with the suspension on there, but I have RSB with stock SE-L suspsnsion, and it is a great improvement.

It is not hard to put on, and I got one used for like $100.
Go for it. If you don't like it, you can sell it to someone else.

 

I heard that a RSB on a lowered car isn't necessary, it just makes the ride stiffer. For a lowered car, I heard SFCs are much beneficial. I have them on my car, but they were put on before I was lowered. SFCs help improve ride quality and keep the car stable in turns and over bumps. Although more expensive, I would go with the SFCs, you won't regret it.

 

what are SFCs? i might know what it is, i just dont know of anything by that abrheviation...

and what is the conclusion? im droping my ride about 2 inches...should i or should i NOT get the RSB?

 

sorry for the double post, but after thinking about it, on a lowered ride, your going to have less suspension travel, correct? if the RSB will lock the beam so that theres only vertical displacement instead of vertical and horizontal, that meens that this issue would only be an EXTREME variable when the car is higher up and has more suspension travel....right/wrong?

with less suspension travel the rear doesnt have that variance in displacement as much, but it still has it...therefore a RSB WOULD help but not as much as someone with a "mild" drop in comparison to someone with a "dramatic" drop....

ie: dramatic drop would be a sprint 2" drop, and a mild drop would be something like H&R, or Eibach....

feel free to add, correct, or whatever, but im using common sense rather that actual knowledge lol

 

SFC's are Sub Frame Connectors.
They are cross bars that connect to the sub frame and steady the overall ride of the vehicle.
Kind of like a RSB, but better.
They hang down kind of low though, so if you want to drop a lot, you might drag on them over speedbumps and such.