0-60 Times?
#41
Originally Posted by nissanguy
I wish our 5 speeds had the tall 5th gear to match the OD of the auto trans! We would get even better gas mileage, I notice that at 70 mph my Girlfriends 95 SE AT is turning like 2250 rpms where as my 96 SE 5 speed is doing like over 2500 RPM's I think. I just wonder how much an SE with 5 speed fully loaded with ABS, bose, leather, moonroof, dual power seats, weighs compared to a plain GXE 5 speed?
When you hit 70MPH you are exactly at 3000RPM. Thats in my case anyway.
I wonder if each mod affects the rpm/mph ratio.
#43
Originally Posted by SteVTEC
That's the gross vehicle weight, not the curb weight.
Base weight on 5spds is around 3000-3010 lbs
Base weight on autos is around 3060 lbs
Add 100lbs when going from a base to a fully loaded model due to power seats, moonroof, bose woofer, leather, etc. So my 99SE fully loaded 5spd is probably about 3100 lbs. The 97-99's were about 10 lbs heavier with the same equipment than 95-96's due to reinforced bumpers and better crash protection.
Base weight on 5spds is around 3000-3010 lbs
Base weight on autos is around 3060 lbs
Add 100lbs when going from a base to a fully loaded model due to power seats, moonroof, bose woofer, leather, etc. So my 99SE fully loaded 5spd is probably about 3100 lbs. The 97-99's were about 10 lbs heavier with the same equipment than 95-96's due to reinforced bumpers and better crash protection.
#44
Kevlo,
Look it up. You will find stats ranging from 6 flat for the type s all the way up to 7.1 for the base. Most sites that I read showed the bosxter type s 0 - 60 around 6 - 6.6(as per porsche). Quarters go from 14 flat on up to 16's! I was shocked when I looked it up. Appearantly, they are just not that impressive for a porsche.
Look it up. You will find stats ranging from 6 flat for the type s all the way up to 7.1 for the base. Most sites that I read showed the bosxter type s 0 - 60 around 6 - 6.6(as per porsche). Quarters go from 14 flat on up to 16's! I was shocked when I looked it up. Appearantly, they are just not that impressive for a porsche.
#45
My fully loaded 1996 SE auto(leather, roof, bose) all the crap except ABS hits 60mph in 6.99-7.1. That's with a y-pipe, APEX WS, and a home made hybrid intake. My 6'2" 250lb *** is in there too along with a 160ish lb buddy of mine. I think I have the video. This is just launching from regular idle.
#47
Originally Posted by DAVE Sz
My fully loaded 1996 SE auto(leather, roof, bose) all the crap except ABS hits 60mph in 6.99-7.1. That's with a y-pipe, APEX WS, and a home made hybrid intake. My 6'2" 250lb *** is in there too along with a 160ish lb buddy of mine. I think I have the video. This is just launching from regular idle.
how was the 0 - 60 time measured?
#48
Originally Posted by toofast240
Kevlo,
Look it up. You will find stats ranging from 6 flat for the type s all the way up to 7.1 for the base. Most sites that I read showed the bosxter type s 0 - 60 around 6 - 6.6(as per porsche). Quarters go from 14 flat on up to 16's! I was shocked when I looked it up. Appearantly, they are just not that impressive for a porsche.
Look it up. You will find stats ranging from 6 flat for the type s all the way up to 7.1 for the base. Most sites that I read showed the bosxter type s 0 - 60 around 6 - 6.6(as per porsche). Quarters go from 14 flat on up to 16's! I was shocked when I looked it up. Appearantly, they are just not that impressive for a porsche.
Originally Posted by Porshce
As you press the throttle, the 3.2-liter engine sends the rev counter racing round the dial. By the time it reaches 6,200 rpm, there’s a full 258 hp at your disposal. Maximum torque of 229 lb-ft provides eager acceleration from 4,600 rpm. From a standing start, you reach 0-62 mph (100 km/h) in a breathtaking 5.7 seconds. Under the right track conditions, you can continue your run to a top speed of 164 mph (264 km/h).
#49
Originally Posted by toofast240
My 98 se 5 speed beat a 01 boxter type s up to 90 mph by half a length. This guy was a stick. Their 0-60 time is 6 flat. I don't know what kind of driver he is though, we only raced once. I have a JWT intake, Straight through style muffler, eibachs, pacesetter sts, and 18's. @60mph we were pretty close. I was barely ahead of him. I can see the 5 speeds 0-60 being close to a 6.5. That is very believable.
I really really really hate magazine racing too, but due to the lack of any other convenient data, here are some stats on the Boxster.
http://www.autosite.com/new/grabbag/perform/3814.asp
The Boxster S will do low-5's to 60mph, and high-13's 1/4 mile times. That's the 6spd. And even the automatic will do high-5's and low-14's. Your Maxima with those mods is not going to touch that. Or maybe it was a riced out Porsche and really had the base 2.5/2.7L engine. That would be more believeable.
#51
Stuff like that isn't going to be very accurate because it doesn't take gearing or anything else into account. It's just an extrapolation. Even a G-tech would probably be more accurate as long as you have a flat piece of road to work with. 0-60 is something that isn't easily and accurately measured by regular folks. Track 1/8th and 1/4 mile times are about as good as it gets.
#52
Originally Posted by kevlo911
I know that most SE auto's will redline when you floor it in D. I know for a fact that most GXE's and GLE's will shift at 6000 when you floor in it D. You have to manually shift for it to go to 6550. I believe the GLE's and SE's have different TCM's.
I think in C&D, when htey tested the 95maxima, they got 6.5sec 0-60
Also auto's will do 7.2
I think in C&D, when htey tested the 95maxima, they got 6.5sec 0-60
Also auto's will do 7.2
I have noitice it when the out side temp is around 70's my car always shift above 6k RPM when I WOT. I have 99 GLE(auto), the Tranny has a hard kick to it. it almost feels like the VB mod is installed in it. I don't have the VB mod. But when it gets really worm out side, the tranny becomes slow, and it shifts much quicker, around 5500 RPM. Honestly I don't care how much slower for faster my car is from a SE. All i know is that, when I press my gas pedal to the floor, my speed OdM gets to 60 fast enough. I am about 185 pound, I have heavy system in the trunk. I like the way my car drives.
#53
My 95 GXE 5sp with 122K miles and a badly slipping clutch does it in about 6.9-7.1, so with a good clutch, it should be back down to the low-mid 6's. The bad clutch is costing me about .5-.75 seconds between 1st and 2nd gear shifts.....
#54
Originally Posted by Cool J
how was the 0 - 60 time measured?
#55
I will check if my RPM's are at Exactly at 3000 while going 70 mph with my 5 speed, but as far as a boxster S, they will do mid 5's to 60, you have to consider when most of these magazines test their cars, they are loaded with gas, and some testing equipment and average of 180-200lb driver.
I look at it this way, with regards to my maxima, imagine putting 17 one gallons of milk in the trunk and having like 1.5 gallons of gas left in your tank, that is how much the full tank would weigh.
Now if I went out and ran 0-60 and it had like 1 gallon of gas left and I weigh 160lbs, I would have an advantage with weigh and you can feel the difference.
I usually see car and drivers testing numbers as most reliable, I guess its because I ve been reading it since 81.
I look at it this way, with regards to my maxima, imagine putting 17 one gallons of milk in the trunk and having like 1.5 gallons of gas left in your tank, that is how much the full tank would weigh.
Now if I went out and ran 0-60 and it had like 1 gallon of gas left and I weigh 160lbs, I would have an advantage with weigh and you can feel the difference.
I usually see car and drivers testing numbers as most reliable, I guess its because I ve been reading it since 81.
#56
C&D only managed a 15.0 out of the new 6g maxima 6spd.
http://www.autosite.com/new/grabbag/perform/3422.asp
One or two people here have gotten 14.4-14.6, and even the automatic guys have done that well repeatedly also.
I take mag times like a grain of salt and only use them for a very loose point of reference. Sometimes it's all you have to go by in which case it's better than nothing, but there are still much better ways to analyze and compare cars. You just need access to the right data.
http://www.autosite.com/new/grabbag/perform/3422.asp
One or two people here have gotten 14.4-14.6, and even the automatic guys have done that well repeatedly also.
I take mag times like a grain of salt and only use them for a very loose point of reference. Sometimes it's all you have to go by in which case it's better than nothing, but there are still much better ways to analyze and compare cars. You just need access to the right data.
#57
This site http://www.nissanx.com/old/htdocs/buy.html has a few different tests of the Maxima, both auto and manual. Here are some 0-60 times:
Car and Driver:
95 SE 5-speed when new: 6.7 sec (topped out at 137 mph)
Same car as above after 40k miles and new clutch: 6.6 sec (top speed now 140 mph)
95 SE auto: 7.3 sec
95 GXE auto: 8.1 sec (seems to be on the slow side)
98 SE auto 8.1 sec
One point to keep in mind is that not every car will perform the same. Some cars run may run stronger than others. Notice the .8 sec spread in the two auto 95s. So two different cars, even if they are driven the same by the same driver may put out different performance numbers.
Car and Driver:
95 SE 5-speed when new: 6.7 sec (topped out at 137 mph)
Same car as above after 40k miles and new clutch: 6.6 sec (top speed now 140 mph)
95 SE auto: 7.3 sec
95 GXE auto: 8.1 sec (seems to be on the slow side)
98 SE auto 8.1 sec
One point to keep in mind is that not every car will perform the same. Some cars run may run stronger than others. Notice the .8 sec spread in the two auto 95s. So two different cars, even if they are driven the same by the same driver may put out different performance numbers.
#58
Originally Posted by es_amixam
One point to keep in mind is that not every car will perform the same. Some cars run may run stronger than others. Notice the .8 sec spread in the two auto 95s. So two different cars, even if they are driven the same by the same driver may put out different performance numbers.
Somebody who knows how to shift and launch extremely and who has a favorable track and weather can run a 14.7. A novice might run a 15.6 in the same car. Ditto for the autos. Stock times are as good as 15.5-15.6 for somebody that really nails the launch and shifts manually. A novice that blows the launch and lets it autoshift might get a 16.2 all in the same car.
It's not the cars. It's everything else.
#59
Don't get me wrong, I don't claim to be faster than a type s boxter. I just claim to be faster than that one with that driver on that day. I have been racing cars for 15 yrs now and know a thing or two about racing. I also know when I hear a gear redline and a hard shift following. The guy was racing. Like I said, I don't know how good of a driver he is because I was paying more attention to my car. The boxter said type s and had the nice brake kit. Could have been a base boxter modified, but I doubt it. I think this was the guys mid life crisis car and he didn't know the cars limits. However, for comparison purposes, I could see how a stock max 5 speed could run in the mid 6's.
As for your data, are you sure your data is for the 01 boxter type s or is it the 04. Please verify for me this data because everywhere I looked it was a 6 - 6.5 with a 14 in the quarter. I would be interested to know some true numbers on this car. I also remember the commercials stating these numbers as I remember it being slower than a wrx in a 0-60 race, but the same in a quarter mile race. Anyway, I would like to know. Please double check on the 01 boxter and if you find data different to mine, let me know where. Thanks.
As for your data, are you sure your data is for the 01 boxter type s or is it the 04. Please verify for me this data because everywhere I looked it was a 6 - 6.5 with a 14 in the quarter. I would be interested to know some true numbers on this car. I also remember the commercials stating these numbers as I remember it being slower than a wrx in a 0-60 race, but the same in a quarter mile race. Anyway, I would like to know. Please double check on the 01 boxter and if you find data different to mine, let me know where. Thanks.
#61
Originally Posted by SteVTEC
i posted the link to where I got the data from. just click on it.
http://www.autosite.com/new/grabbag/perform/3422.asp
#62
#65
The real question is, why would you want to go to redline. The power band is between 3000 and 5500. The hp drops off above 5500. I will say that i have a 95 GLE and I seem to have a pretty quick upshifting auto tranny, however it does lag downshifting especially on the highway. This lag almost allowed a civic si to get by me. I have used a stopwatch to time my 0-60 and it might be off by a few tenths of a second but i got 6.99 seconds, so i will add a couple of tenths of a second and say my car did it in 7.2.
#66
Originally Posted by DenimDan
The real question is, why would you want to go to redline. The power band is between 3000 and 5500. The hp drops off above 5500. I will say that i have a 95 GLE and I seem to have a pretty quick upshifting auto tranny, however it does lag downshifting especially on the highway. This lag almost allowed a civic si to get by me. I have used a stopwatch to time my 0-60 and it might be off by a few tenths of a second but i got 6.99 seconds, so i will add a couple of tenths of a second and say my car did it in 7.2.
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