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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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Buying a painted Stock Spoiler, think the paint will match?

Guys im finally getting a stock spoiler for my 97 se, sage mist, i plan on getting it from spoiler depot and they offer a factory paint option. That makes things a lot simpler to just have them paint it, but my only concern is that they paint it factory color, my car is like 7 years old, so my paint isnt like it was origionally, but i do take care of it, so do u guys think it would be noticable?
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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well, you have a good color... there might be a slight difference but it shouldn't be that bad.... I suggest you have your car detailed and make sure they buff the whole car... that will bring a bit of the color back...if you want to go a bit cheaper than just give it a nice wax job...
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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It wont match but you can easily make it. Go get turtle wax clear coat cleaner and Wax your whole car with it. Easy as that!!!
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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I got the same thing on my GLE recently... I had to send in my gas cap but they matched IT PERFECTLY..!!!
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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Just give them the factory paint code. It should be located on your car somewhere. It's usually either under the hood, on the door jam or under the trunk lid. the place you are purchasing the wing from should be able to tell you how many digits & what number or letter the code starts with. Then purchase a deoxidizer/cleaner wax & go to town on your ride. You cannot just use a regular wax & think your paint is gonna match. All a regular wax is gonna do is lay on top of the surface. You need something that is gonna clean the surface & then use a finishing wax to protect your clean paint.

For more info on this, go to the detailing forum......
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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Um he's talking about the paint color matching. EXACTLY what does polishing the clear have to do with the paint color matching?????????????

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It wont match but you can easily make it. Go get turtle wax clear coat cleaner and Wax your whole car with it. Easy as that!!!
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Um he's talking about the paint color matching. EXACTLY what does polishing the clear have to do with the paint color matching?????????????
Word! Simply, no, it will not match exactly but its difficult to notice on a horizontal line.
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Um he's talking about the paint color matching. EXACTLY what does polishing the clear have to do with the paint color matching?????????????
Your right, if the base coat doesn't match theres nothing he can do to make it match the rest of the car. Even if he provides the shop thats gonna paint the wing for him the factory paint code, it's still not going to match perfectly. There are way too many varients & other issues that factor in when dealing with matching car paint. Any good painter will spray out several different paint cards & find the one that matches perfectly. Especially when he's trying to blend panels & such. A good painter will not simply rely on just what the paint codes says the color is. So the gentleman thats purchasing the wings best bet for a decent match is gonna be providing the paint code or something like the gas door. But if the painter matches the paint for the spoiler to the gas door & the paint on the gas door hasen't been properly cleaned before the paint has been matched, then obviously that paint isn't gonna match when the car gets a good professional wax job. The spoiler is gonna be less likely to match the rest of the car. Really the only good thing he's got going for him since the painter will not have the vehicle there to match the paint too is how high the wing sits away from the trunk lid. Since the wing is raised against the trunk it's gonna be alot hard to notice any differences in the paint as long as the "Tint" of the color is close.
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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I bought mine from them, painted, and it matches great. Go to my website for more pics. I'm sure it's not absolutely perfect, but to the naked eye it looks good.
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Um he's talking about the paint color matching. EXACTLY what does polishing the clear have to do with the paint color matching?????????????

its really not that difficult but let me explain it to you since you need it. The new spoiler is gonna have brand new paint on it. The paint on the car is going to be old since it a 4th gen. Cleaning the clearcoat on the car will bring out the oxidation and color blemishes on the car. Result, matching paint.
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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Like I said before, I got mine done about a MONTH ago... 96 GLE - Pearl White.... they tried the color code first... didn't work... sent it back w/my gas cap and it matches ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY... u cannot tell at all.... i was impressed, and it was not a factory spoiler either. plus the whole job only cost 330 including parts and labor.
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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let me explain it to you as you clearly don't have a clue. What you describe refers to the FINISH. Not the COLOR. If the basecoat doesn't match, he can polish until the year 3000 and it won't match. Understand now newbie?

Originally Posted by 96pearlmax
its really not that difficult but let me explain it to you since you need it. The new spoiler is gonna have brand new paint on it. The paint on the car is going to be old since it a 4th gen. Cleaning the clearcoat on the car will bring out the oxidation and color blemishes on the car. Result, matching paint.
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
let me explain it to you as you clearly don't have a clue. What you describe refers to the FINISH. Not the COLOR. If the basecoat doesn't match, he can polish until the year 3000 and it won't match. Understand now newbie?
ok. since i work at dupont let me explain something to you. I believe you have a 92 so u might be forgiven, since those dont have the same clearcoat on them. You have around 7 layers of paint on your car. Over the base paint is a couple of coats of clearcoat. That clearcoat can get dirty, oxidated, blemished, etc.. If you clean the clear coat, it makes the paint beneath(basecoat) look brand new.
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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Let me tell you something. If you knew squat, you would know Nissan used vastly superior paint in 1992 than it did starting in 1995. Exactly how do you know I have 7 coats of paint????? Mine is original and non-faded.

Again and try to read this slowly. If the base coat doesn't match, it won't matter if the clear is shiny or not.. Now EXACTLY what does that have to do with the clear if the basecoat doesn't match??? You mean to tell me, you can magicly make the paint "MATCH" by just polishing??????? Good luck with that.

That's pretty poor when you work at a paint maker and don't even understand that polishing won't fix a mis-matched basecoat color problem.

Originally Posted by 96pearlmax
ok. since i work at dupont let me explain something to you. I believe you have a 92(wow 12 yrs) so u might be forgiven, since those dont have the same clearcoat on them. You have around 7 layers of paint on your car. Over the base paint is a couple of coats of clearcoat. That clearcoat can get dirty, oxidated, blemished, etc.. If you clean the clear coat, it makes the paint beneath(basecoat) look brand new. got that jeffypoo
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Let me tell you something. If you knew squat, you would know Nissan used vastly superior paint in 1992 than it did starting in 1995. Exactly how do you know I have 7 coats of paint????? Mine is original and non-faded.

Again and try to read this slowly. If the base coat doesn't match, it won't matter if the clear is shiny or not.. Now EXACTLY what does that have to do with the clear if the basecoat doesn't match??? You mean to tell me, you can magicly make the paint "MATCH" by just polishing??????? Good luck with that.
we agree on something. i didnt say exactly 7, i said around 7. Well since your out to get ME, let clarify this. I am talking about when you use the exact paint on a new area. The basecoat on the car would not be fading if its clearcoat was intact. Some people let the elements destroy their clearcoats which in result fades the basecoat. if that happens, no turning back. as for the superior 92 paint, nope. not the same teflon based clearcoat at all
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 12:29 PM
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Just have the guy read this poster's advice.

Originally Posted by nostrixoxide
Your right, if the base coat doesn't match theres nothing he can do to make it match the rest of the car. Even if he provides the shop thats gonna paint the wing for him the factory paint code, it's still not going to match perfectly. There are way too many varients & other issues that factor in when dealing with matching car paint. Any good painter will spray out several different paint cards & find the one that matches perfectly. Especially when he's trying to blend panels & such. A good painter will not simply rely on just what the paint codes says the color is. So the gentleman thats purchasing the wings best bet for a decent match is gonna be providing the paint code or something like the gas door. But if the painter matches the paint for the spoiler to the gas door & the paint on the gas door hasen't been properly cleaned before the paint has been matched, then obviously that paint isn't gonna match when the car gets a good professional wax job. The spoiler is gonna be less likely to match the rest of the car. Really the only good thing he's got going for him since the painter will not have the vehicle there to match the paint too is how high the wing sits away from the trunk lid. Since the wing is raised against the trunk it's gonna be alot hard to notice any differences in the paint as long as the "Tint" of the color is close.
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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Ask anyone on this board if they think the paint Nissan used after the introduction of the 4-gen maxima was/is superior to the paint used for the 3-gen maxima.. Clearly a newbie oblivous to the famous MINIMA term.

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we agree on something. i didnt say exactly 7, i said around 7. Well since your out to get ME, let clarify this. I am talking about when you use the exact paint on a new area. The basecoat on the car would not be fading if its clearcoat was intact. Some people let the elements destroy their clearcoats which in result fades the basecoat. if that happens, no turning back. as for the superior 92 paint, nope. not the same teflon based clearcoat at all
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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I just read this whole thread and can only say .

BTW, Jeff is correct.
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Clearly a newbie oblivous to the famous MINIMA term.
oblivous.....come on now...how you gonna bust my ***** about spelling when the ball buster cant even spell.
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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No need to correct your grammar or spelling. The content is screwed up enough.

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oblivous.....come on now...how you gonna bust my ***** about spelling when the ball buster cant even spell.
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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I think what 96pearlmax is saying is that a dirty or dull clearcoat will make the base coat color look old and faded. When the spoiler is painted the same color as the original basecoat it will look different than the color of the car. Restoring and polishing the clear coat will help make the car look more like it did when it was new thus making the new spoiler match the car.
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This is exactly what he said:
It wont match but you can easily make it. Go get turtle wax clear coat cleaner and Wax your whole car with it. Easy as that!!!
I know what he might have meant, but that's not what he said. And now he's backpedalling as usual. Does not the above statement say to make the paint match (ie.. color) all you have to do is polish the clear???

Now I said "if the basecoat doesn't match, it will never match". Is that correct or incorrect? Because he says that's incorrect. Or else he wouldn't be arguing about it.

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I think what 96pearlmax is saying is that a dirty or dull clearcoat will make the base coat color look old and faded. When the spoiler is painted the same color as the original basecoat it will look different than the color of the car. Restoring and polishing the clear coat will help make the car look more like it did when it was new thus making the new spoiler match the car.
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just wax the damn car. yes jeff earlier paint is stronger. I think mostly due to regulations and stuff.
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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just wax the damn car. yes jeff earlier paint is stronger. I think mostly due to regulations and stuff.
You are correct. Todays paints are based more off of european guide lines. Older paints usually have more lead in them like laquer or enamels. Older paints are deffinitly not the best thing for the atmousphere, but are alot tougher then painting products generated with todays standards for polution control.
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Originally Posted by bearded
I think what 96pearlmax is saying is that a dirty or dull clearcoat will make the base coat color look old and faded. When the spoiler is painted the same color as the original basecoat it will look different than the color of the car. Restoring and polishing the clear coat will help make the car look more like it did when it was new thus making the new spoiler match the car.
You said that perfectly. I have been arguing about the clearcoat since my 10th post.

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Now I said "if the basecoat doesn't match, it will never match". Is that correct or incorrect? Because he says that's incorrect. Or else he wouldn't be arguing about it.
Read the 15th post. I straight up say that i totally agree that if the basecoat is off, there is going to be no matching. The guy is getting a new spoiler painted to match his exact paint. I have just been saying if its the exact match of his 5+ year old car, the clearcoat is going to have to the restored.

As for the older nissan paint. I am refering to the clearcoat. Your arguing with me about the paint and i am refering to the clearcoat protective layer.

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as for the superior 92 paint, nope. not the same teflon based clearcoat at all
Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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I don't care what portion of the paint or clear you are referring to. After 1995, Maximas got inferior quality paint/clear whatever. If it's just the clear, fine. But what happens when a rock it's it? The paint chips right along with the clear.

Originally Posted by 96pearlmax
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As for the older nissan paint. I am refering to the clearcoat. Your arguing with me about the paint and i am refering to the clearcoat protective layer.
Old Sep 24, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I don't care what portion of the paint or clear you are referring to. After 1995, Maximas got inferior quality paint/clear whatever. If it's just the clear, fine. But what happens when a rock it's it? The paint chips right along with the clear.
The guy has a question about the paint on his spoiler matching his factory paint on the car. When a rock hits it hard enough your screwed. Dont know about too many rocks coming up and hitting a spoiler.
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