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Old 10-04-2004 | 11:35 PM
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HID in cefiro? beam pattern?

how would hids in cefiros look? would the beam pattern look all scattered light in the stock maxima housings? anyone know?
Old 10-05-2004 | 07:29 AM
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Old 10-05-2004 | 07:36 AM
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the beam pattern isnt bad in the cefiros. i have 8000k hids in smoked housings. the only thing i wish these had were cut offs like projectors do
Old 10-05-2004 | 07:42 AM
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get the cefiros and retrofit projectors, that would be hot. imports_only1 created a writeup on retrofitting them if you are interested
Old 10-05-2004 | 11:11 PM
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will hids in cefiro blid the crap outa ppl? like in the stock housing?
Old 10-05-2004 | 11:29 PM
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I cant get a answer on fitament with these...is there a gap or is bodywork needed....what did you guys do to seal gaps? Thanks for the info in advance.
Old 10-05-2004 | 11:36 PM
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I have OEM Cefiro headlights with H4 hi/lo kit for about a year. Never got flashed by others.





The cut offs might not be as sharp as projectors, the result is definitely better than stock housing.
Old 10-06-2004 | 08:34 AM
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The only ones that may complain are those you are following to the right of you where the beam pattern ramps up to light up the signs... I've re-aimed my lights a little lower and that seemed to be better (for those people).

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http://www.redlinemax.com/3/CefiroWriteup.htm
Old 10-06-2004 | 09:35 AM
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Where can I buy H4 bulbs? Are they expensive?
Old 10-06-2004 | 09:43 AM
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ummm... autoparts store? $12 each
Old 10-06-2004 | 10:32 AM
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Chunger, did you ever find 4100k-4300k bulbs? Or are you sitll on the phillips 6k? How are you liking the bulbs?
Old 10-06-2004 | 11:41 AM
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Alfonso, still using the 6000s.... It's not like I can easily change them since they have the hi/low feature integrated into the capsule... I'll probably leave them.
Old 01-05-2005 | 09:33 PM
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so, the difference between these and oem maxima headlamps should be night and day as far as glare is concerned, right?
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also, does anyone know if the beam pattern would be different in the smoked ones, since they are aftermarket and not oem?
Old 01-05-2005 | 10:01 PM
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I can't really see a difference with mine.
Old 01-05-2005 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxima Mike
I can't really see a difference with mine.

difference with what?
Old 01-05-2005 | 11:52 PM
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not much of a difference with cefiro smoked and clear housing, the beam pattern is pretty much the same.

the difference between oe housing and cefiro, 9004 cant compare to h4. it really is a night and day difference.
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so there isn't any glare with hid in the h4?
Old 01-06-2005 | 08:43 AM
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so there isn't any glare with hid in the h4?
No, there is. Any halogen housing will produce glare with a HID kit. Even Halogen projectors do. Best route to go is to use HID Projectors, or a HID Reflector. Both are designed to use a D2S/D2R bulb, so they will produce less or no glare.
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well i guess what i am asking is... is the glare with the h4 cefiro housing a lot less severe than the 9004 maxima?
Old 01-06-2005 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueC
No, there is. Any halogen housing will produce glare with a HID kit. Even Halogen projectors do. Best route to go is to use HID Projectors, or a HID Reflector. Both are designed to use a D2S/D2R bulb, so they will produce less or no glare.

No...

D2S bulbs are used with HID projectors..
D2R bulbs are used with HID reflector housings..
Old 01-06-2005 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr****s95SE
not much of a difference with cefiro smoked and clear housing, the beam pattern is pretty much the same.

the difference between oe housing and cefiro, 9004 cant compare to h4. it really is a night and day difference.

I've seen a couple pics of the black housing cefiro headlights, and the beam pattern is no better than a 9004 housing. There is no light cut off, compared to a OEM cefiro.
Old 01-06-2005 | 02:56 PM
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OE are much better overall. p11 G20's use a similar housing with H4 bulbs. the light is good for a halogen.
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can someone post pics of the smoked housing beam pattern?
Old 01-06-2005 | 10:52 PM
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bump...........
Old 01-07-2005 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMAX
I've seen a couple pics of the black housing cefiro headlights, and the beam pattern is no better than a 9004 housing. There is no light cut off, compared to a OEM cefiro.
hmm oddly enough it does look that way. never really looked at my beam pattern that closely. how can there be so much difference in beam pattern? could it have been made that bad?

sometimes i wish i stayed with the original 9004 housings. so many reasons...
Old 01-07-2005 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr****s95SE
hmm oddly enough it does look that way. never really looked at my beam pattern that closely. how can there be so much difference in beam pattern? could it have been made that bad?

sometimes i wish i stayed with the original 9004 housings. so many reasons...
Yes, free-form style headlights (clear lens with faceted reflectors) only have the reflectors to determine the beam pattern so its design and shape relies heavily on computer time. H4/9003 bulbs were created in Europe and in those countries the lowbean will have a flare/cutoff, similar to the beam pattern shown in Max99ES' pics. A well designed housing utilizing H4 bulbs will have that, no matter which country the headlights are adapted for. Crap copies usually cannot get the exact pattern. The design is that precise. 2000-2001 Maximas uses H4 bulbs and they too have the flare/cutoff beam pattern. However since theyre made to comply w/ US DOT regulations the beam pattern is not as precise as the Genuine Nissan Cefiro housings...but the flare in the beam pattern is there.

TYC, the company that makes the knockoff Cefiro chrome housings (I'm not sure about the smoked housings because I havent seen those in person but they probably are if theyre from Taiwan) can try and mold the reflector but since the originals were precision crafted its never going to be exact. That is why TYC or whatever aftermarket headlights IMO is crap and not worth the $ and I'd rather crack open a Genuine Nissan Cefiro lamp if I want the look and smoke them myself than buy aftermarket type smoked headlamps and settle with a sh!tty beam pattern.

Since 9004 bulb filaments are transverse whereas the H4 bulbs have the longitudinal filament, the filament arrangement alone should allow your aftermarket Cefiro-type headlights shine farther down the road than the stock Nissan 9004 housings...unless they are so poorly made the reflector doesn't utilize all of the light emitted from the filament... then I don't know what to tell you. Btw, I have the genuine Nissan Cefiro lamps. It looks like **** installed compared to stock because of the gaps and nothing lines up but I believe in "form follows function" so I'd rather have good performing, ill fitting headlights than good looking but crap 9004 housings.
Old 01-08-2005 | 10:29 PM
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I have 12,000K HID D2S bulbs in a 2004 7 - series BMW european spec projectors that are mounted in blacked out cefiro housings... kinda complicated I know. I know. Dont have any good pics right now the only ones I can suggest is one picture of my Max in the shop and the right headlight is still in at the body shop... it's @ www.rusttorods.com under current projects. I am also putting pictures up on my car domain shop tomorrow if you want to stop by there and check them out late sunday...
www.cardomain.com/id/themaximagirl - there is a pic of my old stock housing with 5 series BMW projectors. Those were my first project headlights that I sold. Sorry if this is a little over whelming.... I am addicted to HID
Old 01-09-2005 | 12:50 AM
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can't the cefiro head lights bolt on directly on a 96 Maxima?
Old 01-10-2005 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 206maxima
can't the cefiro head lights bolt on directly on a 96 Maxima?
cefiros aren't a direct bolt on.. they require hacking and such..
Old 01-11-2005 | 01:02 AM
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yes cefiros require some modding.. only direct fit for a32 i30
Old 04-27-2005 | 07:08 PM
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projectors are annoying *** ****.. i mean i hate when stupid BMW's and similar cars get behind me.. then they hit a small lump or rise in teh highway .. and glare me.. when im in my brothers car...

but my I30 had dimmed mirrors and tint so it dont bother me.. however i annoy the **** outta people.. behind them..
i can see the reflection soemtimes when im behind people form their reaviews and it blinds me..

and people to the right of me.. forget it.. my projectors raise the beam ont eh right side.. ive tried to lower it.. but without makind my own shield.. its toomuch work.. so i jst lef ***.. so if u next ot me.. ur not gonna like it.. so i try to avoid **** liek that..

the AUXILARY light helps.. cause ifs its a lit road then ill just use the auxilary... they do the job... there pointed down in fornt of me.. so they dotn glare or anything and i can see holes etc...

but once its dark as hell on teh ighway.. im lighting up teh road for everyboyd..
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