LOL!!! I guess Nissan's Brembo kit for the G35 is a waste of time. Along with Cadallic's factory BBK for the CTS-V that hauled that car down in 114ft. Beating the Porsche 911 and some other high end cars. Look at every high performance car with decent brakes.

 

i thought you were smart but obviously not. My brothers G35 has the brembo brake kit and that thing when you hit the brakes your going to stop and stop really quick same story with my buddies evo. all the cars you listed above need those brake systems because of their weight, rim size and basically design intenions (they are all ment to be high performance cars). my maxima was ment to pick up the kids and go to the grocery store. Maxima brakes are fine for the maxima, never had them fade on me even after 15 passes back to back a the track.all i am saying is big brakes down always mean shorter stoping distances as in the case of the Sentra Se-R spec V's. there are more resistant to brake fade but don't done such a hot job bringing you to a stop.
here is my brother G35 notice how much of a porker it is. it weighs 3600lbs and the damn wheels must weigh like 25 without tires. it needs those brakes.



jeff more pics of my car can be seen here for you to admire
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/633706/5

there are also time slips and dyno plots

 

Thank you for proving my point so clearly. BTW why would your brother opt for the factory BBK if they don't work????

I don't think the G35 is all that light. Nor is the CTS-V. Also please explain what "rim size" has do with brake performance (other than being big enough to accomodate the caliper/rotor)?

Since when would 1/4 passes work the brakes very hard???????? Try auto-x or road course

You just contradicted yourself Zachery. You just mentioned your bro's G stops well. Then you just said BBK on the Sentra didn't. How does that make any sense at all? Do you know anything about brake bias and why the G/Porsche/Caddy systems do well and the Sentra didn't???? That was the point I was getting (and apparently you missed by a mile).

So again, with the G's weight similar to the Maxima, EXACTLY why would the particular car's purpose make any difference on that car's brake performance? Does the brake calipers 'KNOW' that their calipers should brake as well because they are on a family car???? LOL. Make some sense please.

 

i just like to argue with you thurd gen guys.

here is a little reading for you to enjoy jeff

The Sentra, beam axle and all, was better at .88g. Braking was a tough comparison. The Sentra's Brembos and larger rotors should have an advantage in both stopping power and heat capacity, but a lack of ABS on our test car took them away completely. In fact, the lack of ABS gave this test to the Lancer. It stopped shorter from both 60 and 80 mph by 10 and 11 feet, respectively.

and here is the link for authentication
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/ro...aro/index.html

 

basically your car with the wonderful 300zx setup probally takes longer to stop than another thurd gen with stock brakes and abs

 

Um that doesn't :

1) Answer any of my questions
2) Prove any of your incorrect points
3) Show that you understand braking systems any more than yesterday.

I guess Infiniti thought because the G 18s were so heavy, it was cheaper to develope an multi-thousand $ braking system vs just putting lighter wheels on it from the start

Also as you know the Track Z features forged lightweight Volks but still has the expensive brembos Zachery. Why it that?? It only need the puny single piston maxima calipers and tiny 11" rotors right????

 

You can easily stop much faster w/o the ABS if you know what you are doing. The big difference is, it is much easier to steer away from a problem, etc. when you slam on the brakes and you have ABS. Like it was mentioned earlier, it is for people who panic (which is a good part of the drivers on the road today). I'm personally glad I don't have ABS, because its just another thing to break as far as I'm concerned.

 

Basicly, you have no idea what you are talking about. What did that Sentra do to the REAR brakes Zachery???? Since I have to spell it out to you like a child.

 

And aren't YOU the on that wants to DISABLE your ABS????????????????????

 

What is this Zachery????????????????

Which one of your multiple contradictions you want to address first Zachery???

 

What are we talking about? i am still not going to put the abs fuse back in. also i have ABS and you don't

 

i bet my max can stop faster than yours can

 

But you just said, abs makes YOUR car stop worse.

I have a superior braking system than you. Period.

 

my car doesn't buck at 2000rpm

 

ok ok you win i will be good no more posting in this thread for me

 

Okay, reaching out for the stars I see. Let me know when you want to start making sense and we will continue with the discussion.

Until then, enjoy disabling your ABS and overdriving your brake system during the rainy season. I'm sure everyone on MA will enjoy you ramming everyone from behind.

 

i abide by the 3 second rule. Never tailgate.

 

I agree with zack. Unless that ******* cut you off (just kidding!!, I dont really have road rage). Either way there is a lot of uneducated posting going on in this thread.

 

I want one of you "hate ABS so I'm pulling the fuse" people to rear-end me... I promise you I'll never work again with the money my 'neck pain' and your 'complete ignorance' would rake in.

 

Who threw up on his car?!?! That's a shame

 

we did, its a 350Z kit. think we did a good job and i will give him the compliment. thanks

 

Go figure insurance Fraud, why am i not surprised your from NH.......

 

bawaahah racing stripes?

Yes, besides 40hp they also add 400lbs so you do need those brakes.. whatever.

 

hey it ain't my car. its his car. none of you guys where there when he was Buying it and until any of you guys can come up the $38000 for a new one i wouldn't comment. if he wanted to put pink bunnies on it that is his choice. Personally i think it looks kinda dumb i told he before and after we installed it but he liked it.

i said your car is an infiniti why do you want to have NISMO everywhere ?

 

I'm not defending that rice stickers but

Nismo on his car makes more sense then your nismo radiator cap.

Nismo actually supports the G platform in racing.

 

Not the radiator cap again. i Like it and it stays. it makes the car run better all i have to do now is prove it

 

Everyone knows a worn radiator cap can result in a degraded cooling system.. No need to prove it

But it's still funny

 

thats not true everyone but JEFF. i will take some more pics of the G when i get home. Not a bad car not exactly a maxima but not a bad car.

 

Well well:

1) I never said anything about the cap but everyone else has. haha
2) My car doesn't overheat so............what's the point again?

 

my car doesn't over heat either it was one of the few things nismo makes that i could buy.
so i got the Radiator Cap,
Shift ****
i am debating on the NISMO FPR and GAS CAP. i don't like the oil car its wicked hard to get out when the engine is warm.

 

HAHAHA!! You're from MA, jackass, the #1 insurance fraud state in the country!!!!!!!

And it wouldn't be fraud if I sued you because you pulled the plug on a safety device in your car and hit me. Trust me, your insurance co could be more than happy to settle with me and go after you.

 

Ya - you better call up the insurance company to let them know you no longer have ABS - since your rates will be higher without ABS - o/wise who's the one committing insurance fraud?

 

the only reason our insurace is that high is because all you NH people are trying insurance fraud on us poor MA people. i work in North Billerica and all i see is NH plates its kinda sickening if you ask me (joke)
Always follow the 3 second rule and no tail gating.
i got the fuse in my ashtray takes two seconds to pop it back in. can you
prove i pulled it.

 

wow....all I'ma say is that my z brakes are a definate improvement over my stock maxima calipers...

thanks,

 

nupe very nice car man. very impressive. you did all the work yourself?

 

This is a very good but long thread. If we could do away with all the off topic stuff it'd be even better. ABS or no ABS is all personal preference. I believe that all these systems that aid traction are actually making the roads less safe.

The stupid MILF that busts around the off ramp doing 65 in the snow totally disregaurds the little warning light that is trying as hard as it can to let her know that she is already exceeding the vehicles capabilities. She thinks its a dumb light and decides she wants to get to Bed Bath & Beyond faster. Suddenly she sees a deer on the ramp. She jerks the wheel, spins, goes in ditch, rolls over and dies. End result = population control of stupid people.

This is the evil of ABS. www.howstuffworks.com

"The result is that the tire slows down at the same rate as the car, with the brakes keeping the tires very near the point at which they will start to lock up."

The key part there is "keeping the tires very near the point..." ABS in the Maxima cannot effeciently maintain threshold traction(I agree that new systems are nearly perfect). A good driver can listen to the tires and maintain maximum traction. Much attention and concentration is required to be able to do this on a spur of the moment basis. Also, a nice, high quality, consistant, easily modulated brake system is also required. It is impossible to have a precise braking system if all you do is put gas in the thing. Designers know this so they can't build a popular car that requires a brake rebuild and bleeding every 10K or whenever overheated(Boiled). So, to make driving easier and less stressful designers and engineers have implemented this device.

ABS is like a quadruple edged sword. It makes driving less stressful. This makes driving more common which drives up the price of fuel. The people that rely on the traction systems of modern cars don't understand the physics that stick the car to the road and therefore the road becomes less safe overall. The commonality of these systems has made them mandatory on all street legal vehicles. This drives up their curb weights and reduces fuel effeciency. The R&D to program the systems cost a lot and this drives up the price of cars.

BTW I don't have ABS seeing as I have a '95 but if I had the system I'd completely remove it, not just pull the fuse. The distribution block clutters up the engine bay so much I can't stand it. Not to mention it weighs more. Thats another bit of irony. The ABS system weighs something. Meaning that it takes more force to negatively accelerate the mass of the vehicle. Force can only be generated by the Earth pushing back on the tires. The tires only have so much traction for the Earth to push back with.

 

Agreed....

 

I cant agree enough.............thats great!!

 

With ABS she might have a chance. W/O ABS, she's dead for sure. But I don't think that's the point others were seeing.

 

like he said we need some Darwin theroy in this world. take away all these saftey devices and set these people free