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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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My point is that most people dont, its just really hard not only to find somewhere but to have time and a place where you can. Impalas are pretty easy to steer. Crown Vics on the other hand are fun oversteering... but in the rain they're tricky as hell.
Holy crap... we're in agreement on every single point you just mentioned.

Old Nov 10, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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Yup, abs/traction control stuff is all a big waste of time and energy. I guess that's why it's been BANNED in F1 and ALOT of F1 teams spent huge amounts of $ trying to develope undetectable traction control devices. They actually developed TC w/o using wheel sensors. That's how far F1 teams went to try to gain an advantage on the other teams. But what do they know?? It's not like they have a few million to try this stuff out.
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Yup, abs/traction control stuff is all a big waste of time and energy. I guess that's why it's been BANNED in F1 and ALOT of F1 teams spent huge amounts of $ trying to develope undetectable traction control devices. They actually developed TC w/o using wheel sensors. That's how far F1 teams went to try to gain an advantage on the other teams. But what do they know?? It's not like they have a few million to try this stuff out.
that's right.... that's why i should race mt maxima in F1 racing.
i put the fuse back in the light started driving me nutz. i just decided not to brake as hard in the rain and hopfully it wouldn't come on.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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Just keep the fuse in. Judging by your posts and lack of knowledge you need the advantages ABS can give you. You want an example Zack?

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that's right.... that's why i should race mt maxima in F1 racing.
i put the fuse back in the light started driving me nutz. i just decided not to brake as hard in the rain and hopfully it wouldn't come on.
You are driving in the rain and the abs light is on.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Just keep the fuse in. Judging by your posts and lack of knowledge you need the advantages ABS can give you. You want an example Zack?



You are driving in the rain and the abs light is on.

lack of knowledge.....haha
good thing i have wonderful intellegent mods like you to educate people like me. what woud i do without you.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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I guess buy big arsed shift lights and nismo radiator caps.

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lack of knowledge.....haha
good thing i have wonderful intellegent mods like you to educate people like me. what woud i do without you.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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lack of knowledge.....haha
good thing i have wonderful intellegent mods like you to educate people like me. what woud i do without you.
Die in a fiery wreck because you can't steer while braking hard?
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I guess buy big arsed shift lights and nismo radiator caps.

why don't you make a stick so people know not to buy these things i wish you had prior i would still have that extra $120.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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$120!? I think you have suffered enough.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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hey nismo and pivot aren't cheap i only buy the best...i bought a 4th gen remember
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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4-gen the best? Best in what? Shortcutting??

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hey nismo and pivot aren't cheap i only buy the best...i bought a 4th gen remember
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
4-gen the best? Best in what? Shortcutting??
i need not comment, its so obvious even you know it.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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I think you need to comment as you clearly do not know. Especially someone that thinks a 13.8 : 1 A/F ratio is really lean.

Just a thought. When Nissan orignally made the 3-gen, they were swimming in $. When Nissan developed the 4-gen in 1995, they were fast approaching bankruptcy.

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i need not comment, its so obvious even you know it.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 02:07 PM
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But yet the 4th gen has collected more Accolades and Superior performance that the 3rd gen ever did isn't that odd...
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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The only thing 4-gens have collected is crappy interior pieces, non-lsd trannies and an Astro Van rear suspension

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But yet the 4th gen has collected more Accolades and Superior performance that the 3rd gen ever did isn't that odd...
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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don't mean to break up the 3rd gen - 4th gen banter but,...

I slid into a curb, in the snow in my 4th gen I30 (w/ abs), and busted up my tire pretty bad, soo bad infact, that I crushed the ABS on that tire. I never replaced it and the ABS light has been on ever since, so my question is,....
DOES THAT THING EVER BURN OUT !?!?!?!?!?!!
its been at least 3 years now...
I refuse to buy the ABS sensor for my front/passenger tire, cus they are just too much $$$$$
anyone know where I could find one reasonably cheap,.. or will that damn ABS light go out soon?

thanks
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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Nope it will not "go out". It will go out when you put another sensor in. One from a boneyard should work fine. Should only be $10-$30 at the most.

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don't mean to break up the 3rd gen - 4th gen banter but,...

I slid into a curb, in the snow in my 4th gen I30 (w/ abs), and busted up my tire pretty bad, soo bad infact, that I crushed the ABS on that tire. I never replaced it and the ABS light has been on ever since, so my question is,....
DOES THAT THING EVER BURN OUT !?!?!?!?!?!!
its been at least 3 years now...
I refuse to buy the ABS sensor for my front/passenger tire, cus they are just too much $$$$$
anyone know where I could find one reasonably cheap,.. or will that damn ABS light go out soon?

thanks
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
The only thing 4-gens have collected is crappy interior pieces, non-lsd trannies and an Astro Van rear suspension
I love that last line even though a 4th gen will probably be supplimenting my 3rd gen soon here.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
The only thing 4-gens have collected is crappy interior pieces, non-lsd trannies and an Astro Van rear suspension
hey!!! We had an astro van !!! Served us well for 10 years-175k miles
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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I know I know I own a 4th gen...

but not only can the VE keep up with the VQ... 3rd gens can outhandle the hell out of our cars.
The only awards 4th Gens had was for the VQ... nothing for flimsy interiors that squeak and rattle, nothing for massive lean on turns and crappy handling...
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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actually motor trend voted the 95 maxima as import CAR of the YEAR not import engine of the year
car and driver had the 95 and 96 maxima on its 10 best list

out handle these are maximas if cared about handling i would have bought another 240SX (being as i previously owned a 1993 S13 5speed with VLSD). you 3rd gen guys act like your vlsds are the best thing out there vlsd sucks they are very inconsistent and not any good in high hosepower applications. My maxima (family sedan) is never going to see autocross or twisty mountain roads. all i care about is that it is faster in a straight line. A nice spring/strut combo will be more than sufficent for me.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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I think you need a map... you seem very lost...

Motor Trend also named the new Beetle car of the year when it came out... does that necessarily mean is a good car? oh hell no

I'd love to have VLSD... I dont know about you but spinning one wheel while in a straight line isnt very cool. VLSD isnt just for turns, its for BOTH your wheels to have traction when you accelerate, in a turn or going straight. Also its alot nicer to have it when its snowing out there so you dont have just one wheel spinning out while the other one just stands there looking at you like your stupid.

Your post makes no sense whatsoever to be honest, it seems like you have no clue what your talking about. Go get your S13 and drive it off, sounds to me like you'll end up oversteering into a tree anyway.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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actually motor trend voted the 95 maxima as import CAR of the YEAR not import engine of the year
car and driver had the 95 and 96 maxima on its 10 best list

out handle these are maximas if cared about handling i would have bought another 240SX (being as i previously owned a 1993 S13 5speed with VLSD). you 3rd gen guys act like your vlsds are the best thing out there vlsd sucks they are very inconsistent and not any good in high hosepower applications. My maxima (family sedan) is never going to see autocross or twisty mountain roads. all i care about is that it is faster in a straight line. A nice spring/strut combo will be more than sufficent for me.
bah, you don't think that the 3rd generation ever made it to Car and Driver's 10 best list .....Have you checked out MT COTY competition in 1995? Of course the Maxima won

I don't drive my car to its full potential to use VLSD yet, but maybe this winter it'll come in handy when your stuck in snow and my thurd gen will tow your fart gen out

VLSD sucks compared to what? That open differential in your cost cutting 4th gen? If you care about straight-line, why did you buy a Maxima and only stuff bolt-ons and run 14.7
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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bah, you don't think that the 3rd generation ever made it to Car and Driver's 10 best list .....Have you checked out MT COTY competition in 1995? Of course the Maxima won

I don't drive my car to its full potential to use VLSD yet, but maybe this winter it'll come in handy when your stuck in snow and my thurd gen will tow your fart gen out

VLSD sucks compared to what? That open differential in your cost cutting 4th gen? If you care about straight-line, why did you buy a Maxima and only stuff bolt-ons and run 14.7

how come you third gen guys don't stay in your own forum... the 3rd gen forum?

Ant96GLE: your automatic isn't going to be spinnin anything. if is funny though you talk about spinning 1 wheel in a straight line but i see all these guys with open differentials still running 2.0 60ft times. whats up with that? also i know how to drive in the snow and i do just find with my open diff.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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Do you even know what your talking about yet again?

With my 15's I can spin out one tire all day long... these guys can run 2.x 60ft times with modulation on take off. Why do you think we can really rev over 2000rpm and floor it off the line? Because of wheel spin... some guys will rev it all the way upto 5k but have to play with the clutch and let it slip before gaining enough traction to get off the line.

Getting stuck on a patch of ice in the snow isnt fun either with an open diff... or trying to plow your car out. Stop trying to make everything go your way, didnt you learn its okay to be wrong?

Dude you really need to get to know cars before you come here talking like you know everything. Take a look at this site.

Your guide to understanding Maximas.. lesson 1
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
Do you even know what your talking about yet again?

With my 15's I can spin out one tire all day long... these guys can run 2.x 60ft times with modulation on take off. Why do you think we can really rev over 2000rpm and floor it off the line? Because of wheel spin... some guys will rev it all the way upto 5k but have to play with the clutch and let it slip before gaining enough traction to get off the line.

Getting stuck on a patch of ice in the snow isnt fun either with an open diff... or trying to plow your car out. Stop trying to make everything go your way, didnt you learn its okay to be wrong?

Dude you really need to get to know cars before you come here talking like you know everything. Take a look at this site.

Your guide to understanding Maximas.. lesson 1
thanks you for the lesson. what would i do without you guys to educate. i failed to realize with your extensive track time and knowledge of the maxima that you knew what you were talking about. you are so wise. what do i know about clutch moduation i only ran a 2.2 60ft on crappy all season sumitomos. oh i guess i have been doing it wrong because apparently i haven't had any problems with snow in my maxima. maybe new york has special snow that is harder to drive in.
maybe one day i will become an expert like you. i would like to thanks rest of the people who have been kinda enough to take their time to explain to me why i am wrong and what i should do. to become a better maxima owner and driver
thanks guys
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So open your mind and use this thought.. if you HAD a VLSD, think about how much easier and harder you could launch off the line. And if you did want something to go fast with in a straight line you should've gotten yourself a real car.

Thats what I'm doing, I'm gonna get me a Firebird WS6 as a weekend car. Low 13's all day... stock.
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
So open your mind and use this thought.. if you HAD a VLSD, think about how much easier and harder you could launch off the line. And if you did want something to go fast with in a straight line you should've gotten yourself a real car.

Thats what I'm doing, I'm gonna get me a Firebird WS6 as a weekend car. Low 13's all day... stock.
Sweeet... possible drift car and awesome sounding exhaust no matter what you throw on it.
Old Nov 11, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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I love reading these works of fiction...if you ask a 3rd gen they say 3rdgen > 4thgen for speed/handling/performance/fit and finish. Ask a 4th gen and they say 4thgen > 5thgen for speed/handling/performance/fit and finish.

Is Nissan the only manufacturer who makes their cars get slower and handle worse as the generations advance?
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Originally Posted by zack342
how come you third gen guys don't stay in your own forum... the 3rd gen forum?

Ant96GLE: your automatic isn't going to be spinnin anything. if is funny though you talk about spinning 1 wheel in a straight line but i see all these guys with open differentials still running 2.0 60ft times. whats up with that? also i know how to drive in the snow and i do just find with my open diff.
Your not going to be pulling any 60ft times when one of your tire is on snow or ice with that open diff, which I believe thats what I was referring to in my post that you replied to

Now we should stay in our own forum? Are you the site admininstrator? I do believe ANYONE is allowed in all the generation forums to discuss about that certain generation. This was discussing about abs fuse for a 4th gen, but it just happened to turn into an LSD discussion on how 4th gens don't have it.

How is an open differential better than a VLSD?
Old Nov 11, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by zack342
actually motor trend voted the 95 maxima as import CAR of the YEAR
They also made the Chevy Caprice Car of the Year in 1991. I don't exactly trust their judgement.

The 4th Gen is a Minima, not a Maxima.
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ok 3rd gens with VLSD's are the best. i am very jealous of your remarkable top end and wonderful suspension. if only i could do it all over again. 4th gen maximas su*k i don't know what i was thinking or any of those automotive journalist who are paid to driver these cars and give them honest impression. I mean its not like they know what they are talking about they only do this for a living and drive almost ever car out there but what do i know.... apprently nothing.
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Now your just putting words in peoples mouth's. We are just trying to tell you that VLSD is better than having an open differential. That just happens to be one feature missing in the 4th gen Maxima, but does appear on the I30t models *HENCE* that hints at cost cutting in the 4th gen Maxima.

on a side note, how come you have to resort to sarcastic statements and remarks when you run out of constructive things to say to actually back any of your statements up?
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Originally Posted by ScreamingVE
Now your just putting words in peoples mouth's. We are just trying to tell you that VLSD is better than having an open differential. That just happens to be one feature missing in the 4th gen Maxima, but does appear on the I30t models *HENCE* that hints at cost cutting in the 4th gen Maxima.

on a side note, how come you have to resort to sarcastic statements and remarks when you run out of constructive things to say to actually back any of your statements up?
That had to cut cost some how and its a good thing they did other wise there may have been no nissan today. I could really careless now. if the 3rd gen is better its better, its hard to argue with the truth. I would like to say in my humble opinion that the 5.5 gen rules us all but i am sure that statement with get rip to shreads. Hey your right i was wrong i would hardly call it Sarcasm just my agreement because you are correct.
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5.5gens do rule all of us
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Originally Posted by Igobuk
Sweeet... possible drift car and awesome sounding exhaust no matter what you throw on it.

With T-tops

Originally Posted by ScreamingVE
5.5gens do rule all of us
Only in a straight line
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i cann't believe you want to turn abs off i wish i had abs this is teh craziest thing i ever heard.
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That is very odd that you don't have ABS. I thought all 99's and almost all 96-98's had it.
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i do have ABS. its supposed to snow tomorrow i put the fuse back in
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Just a thought. When Nissan orignally made the 3-gen, they were swimming in $. When Nissan developed the 4-gen in 1995, they were fast approaching bankruptcy.
So it's safe to say the 3rd gen had a part in draining the pool of money Nissan was swimming in and the 4th gen (probably the best selling Maxima generation ever, look around you) was instrumental in putting the green back in the pool (with some help from Carlos). Huh. Cool.



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