OK - here it is. I guess i took it upon myself to find out firsthand what the "new and improved" superflo y-pipe is really all about. Lemme start by saying i feel like driving my max off a cliff. Install was a *****!!! but that was mostly due to the fact that the guy i bought the car from lived in CT and i think the salted roads took a toll on the bolts - we had to hack several off. Basically my friend (MadMaxSE) and I spent about 9 hours getting the stock pipe off and the new one on. (no air tools or lift) Im not sure if my flex section is sealing properly though. The section is basically made up of a ball and socket joint but the problem is is that the flange that the ball sits in does not overlap the ball near enough. Thus a ton of air leaks out there causing THE WORST bees in a can sound imaginable. As you can see from the pictures, we put exhaust wrap around where the pipe splits (this was just to prevent any noise bc it didnt look as if the weld went fully around in between the 2 pipes. What the pictures dont show (ill try to get one up) is that after it was all put on (which took us another 3-4 hours today messing with tightening the ball and socket joint and such) is that we ended up wrapping the area where the flange is bc the air was escaping causing that horibble noise. We eventually got it perfect to where it sounded incredible - nice and smooth and NO rasp (exactly like they advertised) but the exhaust wrap eventually ballooned out at the flex section and were back to the same old god-awful raspy noise. (Needless to say we gave up in frustration today and are going to wrap the hell out of the flex section tomorrow and clamp it even tighter.) After basically 24 hours off messing with this thing we got it to where we wanted it (at least for 2-3 miles of test driving until that exhuast wrap ballooned out - and it sounded awesome before that happened) I will say that the people at Warpspeed were extremely nice and helpful getting my pipe here, but it doesnt seem to be at all what they claimed. Ill keep you guys updated - sorry for my

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Well that definitely wasn't the news i was hoping to hear! I have my new super flo y pipe sitting here waiting for the Greddy cat back to get here so i can install everything in one shot. I know exactly what you mean with the corrosion. I am in CT, and the Max that i own has been in the northeast area for the entire life of the car. I have to replace every single nut and bolt that holds the exhaust together, due to corrosion. If it is as much of a headache as you make it sound, I might just go to a shop and let them deal with it.

 

it was a pain lemme tell you - lemme know how yours goes. I mean maybe i just got a bad one - i hope not but keep me posted if you would - id appreciate it

 

With all these Ypipe problems around, seems like we can only hope to trust Catman and CustomMaxima.

 

I'll def let you know how it goes. I should have the cat back system tomorrow, so within the week I will have some info and pics up here.

 

thanks man - maybe we can figure this out together.

 

Man, that sucks. I guess I'll have to go with Budget after all. By the way, those links/pic aren't working. Use imageshack

 

Yea, I didnt have any luck with those pics either. I got an error message.

 

my bad - try them now

 

Sorry to hear this but something is way off. Even Pacesetter...the cheapest exhaust company out there uses ball and socket joints with leak free results. I would give Warp Speed a jingle.

 

Oh i definetly will give them a call - like i said, they were really nice and helpful when i ordered. i just hope they are as receptive when i come to them with this problem.

 

hey i know im new and dont have much credit here, but i live over by warpspeed and have tons of their stuff including a full 2.5 magnaflow system from them and it sounds awsome. im sure dallas and mike will help you out, they have always kept me happy.

 

wow, despite warpspeeds excellent claimed customer service, i would def go for the better quality y-pipe and something i know its worthy of gettin.
i never had thoughts about gettin a superflow cause i had doubts about it and didn't wanna risk it. i'm sorry to hear about the pain in the hole installation and know wht u mean.

after reading that, i'm def goin for budjet ss y-pipe. have the cash but don't wanna blow it at this moment.

 

That freakin' sucks man! I was really considering the new superflo, but I decided against it. I ordered a Cattman y-pipe instead. I'll let you guys know what I think about it. I believe in the theory, "you get what you pay for". I hope Cattman's y-pipe is worth every penny.

Armani, what do you have to say now, Mr. salesman? You ranted and raved about that superflo in the following two links as if it's the greatest invention since sliced bread. Judging by the pics, the craftsmenship is ****. I hope I'm wrong, and this one happens to be a lemon.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=385052

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=383831

 

I got the superflo and I have no bees in the can noise at all...mine is quiet and seems to have good gains....im happy so maybe it is just your pipe...

 

to EVERYTHING you said. finally someone agrees with me

 

lol - sorry Armani - but i saw that coming

 

maybe you cant be an acurate judge sense you dont have anything beyond the y pipe for exhaust mods

 

Well I will definitely keep my fingers crossed that this is just restricted to his one pipe. I find it hard to believe that Warpspeed would be able to manufacture something that just completely sounds like sh**, so maybe you just got a bum pipe.... Either way, def sorry to hear about all of the complications.

 

alrite heres an update guys - i talked to warpspeed today and they were very helpful as usual. the guy showed me a way to tighten up the flex section even more so i think i may have eliminated the problem there. However im still getting the raspy sound. I remembered that the O-rings that go into to the gaskets at the headers were a little to big. We figured that with the excessive heat from the headers that they would melt and mold into place - which maybe my problem. The guy at Warpspeed said they were supposed to fit exactly and that hes gonna overnight some new O-rings to me to try. Hopefully this should solve everything. Props again to Warpspeed - theyve been very helpful and I have no complaints with them at all. Lets just hope this works.............

 

By O-Rings, are you talking about the small silver crush gaskets for the section that meats the headers? Just making sure...I am going over to the shop now to take a shot at the y pipe on my own. i stopped at the dealership and got some new bolts and nuts for the section of the pipe that meets with the cat converter, since those are corroded down to nothing. Hopefully I wont run into any major issues.

 

Am I the only one thats satisfied w/ WSP?

 

yes - sorry O-rings just came to mind when i tried to describe them but yes they are the what you are talking about

 

oh im satisfied with them as a company - this was just an unfortunate mishap

 

You're an idiot. Someone, first person ever on here, writes a bad review of the superflo and you automatically assume it sucks. I know of literally at least 10 other people who have the f**king pipe w/ no problems whatsoever. So in the end, his case doesn't prove **** you pathetic loser.

I bet out of every 10 people who have a budget, at least 5 experience the bees in a can sound and therefore hate it. Also, notice how he didn't wrap the actual flex section.

Now sit down.

 

Id be weary of running a y pipe with no flex section...
...I just got my Budget B and Y pipes installed @ Budget last weekend and I love them.

 

Armani - youre creating a bad rep for youreslf acting the way you do. If you dont have the product....dont speak for it. Chill the f*ck out and stop being such a whiner.

Wizard - Cattman has had some issues w/ the flex section too...however Brian is VERY honest and helps every customer out greatly.

 

It DOES have a flex section....it is just not the stardard flex section you normally see.

I know when I got it installed I had to take it in for them to melt off the bolts cause they were rusted...they actually used their own crush gasket because the one it came with was a lil off so maybe the extra materials they give you make the pipe worse than it is.

As for the air maybe it waws a bum pipe.

And Ryan, I should have more of an accurate reading of how the ypipe is with the rest of the system as stock....that way you can feel the gains immediately....I dunno about 10hp but I think it does the job quite nicely with VERY VERY minimal noise.

It is probably wise to go with budget only because of the SS and the fact that it is a TRUE flex section but I would say overall the pipe itself isn't bad for the price considering that it doesn't make noise.

 

Also I don't know that much **** about y-pipes and exhaust as some people but with the amount they sell on ebay you think you would see bad feedback or even nuetral feedback for the pipe if it had as many flaws as some make it seem.....

 

well im glad we at least have someone telling us about there experience...bad or not

 

actually i did wrap the flex section and that didnt help. what i believe fixed it was that the guy at warpspeed told me to put a washer between the flange and the spring at the flex section so that the ball and socket could close better when i tightened it - not sure exactly why but thats what he told me and i think it worked. He did say that hes had one other faulty pipe recently and that mine might be one as well - assuming the new rings dont fix the problem. i believe the only noise now is coming from the fact that those rings were too big - i should have the new ones in by saturday. i only hope that cures the problem.

 

That makes my point all the more persuasive.

Also, to that idiot who said you need to actually have the f**king pipe to know what it is like. WTF does that have to do with anything? Isn't it enough to have friends that own the same exact car with this pipe and ride with them? Maybe I don't have the "budget" to buy one right now.

In any case, I am DEFINITELY going with the superflo. My friends HAVE it. They are all quiet w/ no bees in a can bullsh!t as is claimed in this thread. Just take into consideration people that THIS IS the first thread on the org, which claims that this particular pipe makes noise. And FYI, there have been oh I would say approx. 2 threads every day for the past couple months about this superflo pipe.

If you don't like it, and don't trust it, then STFU and don't buy it.....simple as that.

 

Where are the pics?

 

first page....... ?

 

yes weve pretty much determined that i have a faulty pipe and/or faulty gaskets. i have no doubt that it will be as quiet as they claim it to be once we can get mine right. Armani - chill out bud, were not trying to attack you here. dont get so defensive all the time. you obviously can attest to the quality of the pipe from personal experience and i believe you and the people at warpspeed. take it easy man - no hard feelings

 

Try some You'll feel better.....

 

1.) You kiss your mother with that mouth?
2.) Yes one bad review is something to take serious. If it's the only one ever, sure it is irrelevent. But if it's one after one after one... then it's good to know about it.
3.) Who are the 10 people you know?
4.) I'll take your bet that 50% of Budget owners do not have bees. What are the stakes of our bet?
5.) What does 'he didn't wrap the actual flex section' mean? A.) You said there was no flex section and B.) No one should have to wrap their Y anyway!
6.) You sit down Corky.
7.) Be nicer to your fellow orgers.

 

OK - well i think ive exhausted all options and im clueless. Warpspeed overnighted me some new crush gaskets which i installed today and it sounds a little better. weve pretty much elimated the flex section as being the problem bc since weve tightened it ive felt no air escaping and the sound seems to be coming from up front. its nice and smooth when its floored anywhere after 2nd gear, and through low RPMs in first and second. However, upper RPM's in 1st and 2nd sound pretty raspy in my opinion (bc its supposed to sound stock) and the sound seems to becoming from to front of the pipe - which doesnt make any sense bc i should have eliminated the problem today with new crush gaskets. I think my biggest problem is i have nothing to compare it to - can anyone who does have the superflo possibly post a sound clip for me - it would be GREATLY appreciated.

 

It burns my butt to see unfounded and blown out of proportion claims being posted here. Better back up your info before you post anymore bets again on here. One more thing: mind your manners.

 

It would help if you had a sound clip, are you sure the sound you are hearing is not the sound that it should make, since it is an aftermarket y it should make more sound that stock naturally. just a couple of pennies to ponder