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Old 04-25-2005 | 08:18 AM
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Next Project AWD maxima!!!!!!

I am almost done with my turbo setup, but i hate the fact that our cars are FWD. I happen to find a guy who knows of a company who make all wheel drive shasis for any car out there, you just tell them your motor, body style etc etc. As of now this setup is costing around 5,000 without the labor of redoing the whole car, cutting it, etc etc, this is gonna be a long project but I just put down a 3,000 downpayment to start the custom chasis. My father owns a shop and hes a bodyman, so hell be doing a lot fo work on afterhours, along with my help by his side. I dont know how long its going to take them to fabricate the shasis, but i deff can wait for this. Putting down 450whp on a maxima and haveing an awd chasis is a dream. Ill keep you guys updated on whats going on. I have to cut my baby apart ...........
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:28 AM
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wow, I knew somebody was going to try something like this eventually, though I thought it would have been rwd first, be sure to get pics of the whole process if you can.
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:33 AM
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WOW cant wait to see the updates and pics.. i wouldnt do it, I like front wheel drive but it will be interesting to see.
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:34 AM
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awesome, keep us updated and good luck... that should be fun
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:36 AM
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wow awesome man ur truely a pioneer .... good luck with everything and keep us updated
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:37 AM
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that is a lot of freakin money, but sounds cool. be sure to take pics of the process and keep us updated with pics.
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:39 AM
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total waste of time and money IMHO

just go buy an STI or EVO and upgrade the turbo if you want that much power from an AWD car.

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Old 04-25-2005 | 08:43 AM
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I think that is going to be sweet man. Def. show the pics along the way.

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Old 04-25-2005 | 08:44 AM
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total waste of time and money IMHO

just go buy an STI or EVO and upgrade the turbo if you want that much power from an AWD car.

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I would rather do rear wheel drive but hey it's your money.

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that is a lot of freakin money, but sounds cool. be sure to take pics of the process and keep us updated with pics.
Did you do your headlights? If you did, wanna do mine and make few buck or just for fun? lol
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:47 AM
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i'll be honest, i doubt this will ever work, but good luck on mutilaing your Nissan, make sure your next one is nice.
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:48 AM
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Well good luck. But I'd like to know which transaxle you are going to use. Since you are turboing the VQ30, you need to use that engine and since you "almost done", it will reside in the E/W configuration. So you need a FWD/AWD style transaxle. Off hand I don't know of any AWD VQ tranny parts.

Let us know what you are using, I'm interested in reading about it.
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:52 AM
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If it all works out will the motor still be transverse mounted w/ a trans that has a driveshft coming out the back or will the motor be set up like a RWD car & then have a transfer case that will make it AWD? Good luck hope this work out for the $ you've invested!! Keep us posted.
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:53 AM
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Listen, anyone can go out with money and get an sti, and evolution, etc etc....what fun is that? I have a chance to create something here for the first time ever. I will hopefully be the first person so achieve something that a maxima community has never seen before. Plus this is going to be my own. All the money and time I will put in this will come back to be through my achievments. The fruit of your loom sorta speak. I want something that no one else has also, and I want these sti's and evos, to sit there and wonder WTF just happend when they see me drive this thing off the line. Now that my friend is different and respectfull. Some people have expensive hobbies, this is sorta like one of them. Its gonna be very hard and a learning experience non the less and i dont mind doing something for myself that I can say "its my own"
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:54 AM
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Anyone know if the G35x motor is mounted sideways, or front to back?!?
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:54 AM
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jsut buy a skyline
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:54 AM
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Well good luck. But I'd like to know which transaxle you are going to use. Since you are turboing the VQ30, you need to use that engine and since you "almost done", it will reside in the E/W configuration. So you need a FWD/AWD style transaxle. Off hand I don't know of any AWD VQ tranny parts.

Let us know what you are using, I'm interested in reading about it.
Isnt the Murano transverse mounted? Or is it setup N/S? I haven't seen the engine bay of the Murano yet.
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:58 AM
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i know my friends boy just did this to his max he has a 99 and he used the whole awd setup from a g35x and he said hes pretty sik i will see if i can meet up with him and take some pics for u guys
Old 04-25-2005 | 08:59 AM
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i know my friends boy just did this to his max he has a 99 and he used the whole awd setup from a g35x and he said hes pretty sik i will see if i can meet up with him and take some pics for u guys
So apparently its allready been done?
Old 04-25-2005 | 09:00 AM
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if you change the mounting of the engine, you'd have to change the piping on your turbo setup, take that into account, along with a million clearance issues.
Old 04-25-2005 | 09:05 AM
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if you change the mounting of the engine, you'd have to change the piping on your turbo setup, take that into account, along with a million clearance issues.
I figured that but he said he's having a whole new chasis designed for it that might make it possible to have a true RWD/AWD setup like the STI/Skyline, not like an EVO!
Old 04-25-2005 | 09:10 AM
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the kid with it done has his max s/c and all that good stuff and he said he dident have to move anything around,been tryin to get ahold of him want to see what an awd max feels like
Old 04-25-2005 | 09:15 AM
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the kid with it done has his max s/c and all that good stuff and he said he dident have to move anything around,been tryin to get ahold of him want to see what an awd max feels like
If you are able to contact him ask him how much $ it costed for all the drivetrain parts & how easy/difficult the install was. I wonder if he has a thread about his setup already?
Old 04-25-2005 | 09:16 AM
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a 3000gt vr-4 has a transversely mounted motor and they have AWD very similar to teh Eclipse AWD and Evo....and Galant VR4....that could work but MItsu suks.....i jsut feel he is putting way to much money into this car.......5g plus labor...for that plus previous mods to the car R32 GTR could b in his garage and still be faster than his future AWD maxima
Old 04-25-2005 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by icedout
the kid with it done has his max s/c and all that good stuff and he said he dident have to move anything around,been tryin to get ahold of him want to see what an awd max feels like
??? 10char
Old 04-25-2005 | 09:22 AM
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what did you not understand tavarish?
Old 04-25-2005 | 09:27 AM
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does he have a website, or pics, or anything?

Seems like a pretty big thing to be overlooked, especially in a forum of this size.
Old 04-25-2005 | 09:46 AM
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total waste of time and money IMHO

just go buy an STI or EVO and upgrade the turbo if you want that much power from an AWD car.

Ant

No way man. Everyone knows STI's and EVO's are fast. but would you ever expect to get spanked by a FWD four door sedan from the 90's? Total sleeper car. No one expects it to be to AWD and turbo'd. I hope his project is a success. He could seriously humiliate a lot of people on the streets and the track.
Old 04-25-2005 | 09:52 AM
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Well if you already spent the downpayment, that means you should already know what driveline you are going to use. Care to share that? Thanks.

Originally Posted by MaxInProgress
Listen, anyone can go out with money and get an sti, and evolution, etc etc....what fun is that? I have a chance to create something here for the first time ever. I will hopefully be the first person so achieve something that a maxima community has never seen before. Plus this is going to be my own. All the money and time I will put in this will come back to be through my achievments. The fruit of your loom sorta speak. I want something that no one else has also, and I want these sti's and evos, to sit there and wonder WTF just happend when they see me drive this thing off the line. Now that my friend is different and respectfull. Some people have expensive hobbies, this is sorta like one of them. Its gonna be very hard and a learning experience non the less and i dont mind doing something for myself that I can say "its my own"
Old 04-25-2005 | 09:55 AM
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The murano AWD and G35 sedan AWD both have the engine longitudinal. Nissan does have AWD with transverse engines but mostly with the SR20DET like in the Pulsar GTi-R and the Bluebird SSS ATTESA(1st gen altima).

With the money you can make it happen. I would like to see it since it would be a nice project. Good luck. You are a braver (or more foolish depending on who you ask) man than I or most of the people on here. You will have to custom fabricate a lot of stuff or import the ATTESA equipment from some other car and somehow modify it to fit the maxima and the VQ30.

I would have rather seen a 240sx with an VQ30DET swap first since it would be a lot easier. You would just need a 350Z/G35 6 speed or a 3.5 pathfinder 5 speed tranny. You could use the maxima ecu, wiring harness, etc. It wouldn't be that hard as long as the engine physicall fit. I would think it would since they have put V8s (VH4x and VK45) in there. You might need a custom driveshaft but it is not too big of a deal considering the rest of the work involved. You would essentially have a 2 door, turbo, RWD maxima.
Old 04-25-2005 | 09:58 AM
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Awsome project. This would be a great project. Best of luck for the project.
Old 04-25-2005 | 10:13 AM
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I'm thinking about kustomizing my tv into a ferrari, anyone have any suggestions ?
Old 04-25-2005 | 10:15 AM
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Some guy from the army. He is still working on it......
Old 04-25-2005 | 10:34 AM
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Isnt the Murano transverse mounted? Or is it setup N/S? I haven't seen the engine bay of the Murano yet.

Yes it is. He wouldn't be able to use the CVT transmission though. According to research on www.freshalloy.com in the Murano section, it seems as though in certain countries, the Murano uses an AWD+automatic. So far, there doesn't seem to be an AWD manny tranny but he might be able to shop for other Borg-Warner transaxles.
Old 04-25-2005 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ny96max
total waste of time and money IMHO

just go buy an STI or EVO and upgrade the turbo if you want that much power from an AWD car.

Ant
That'd be too easy.

He'd be the first person to have an AWD Maxima, just like TILLEY is the first person to have a 3.5L in a 4th gen. Its all about being a pioneer and doing something different. The AUDI slogan comes to mind...

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Old 04-25-2005 | 11:24 AM
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Doing all that to a 7 year old car??? Your expense will probably equal 2 or 3 more 4th gen maximas. But its your money.

Just like the rest of the guys, I'd like to know what kind of driveline you'll be using and if the VQ will even fit if you turn it around front/back position. I know the chasis will be custom. If the engine was turned around to front/back, will you still have enough clearance in the front for a radiator, intercooler (for your turbo), and all that?
Old 04-25-2005 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxInProgress
Listen, anyone can go out with money and get an sti, and evolution, etc etc....what fun is that? I have a chance to create something here for the first time ever. Its gonna be very hard and a learning experience non the less and i dont mind doing something for myself that I can say "its my own"
Or, you could wait for the next really good dump you take, reach in, and sculpt a beautiful woman out of it. But it's still a hunk of ****.

Not that a Max is a hunk of ****, but think about it. There is usually a reason for being first to do something.

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Old 04-25-2005 | 12:46 PM
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Murano engine bay:





The engine is mounted exactly like in the 02 Maximas/Altimas. Hell it even has the same intake manifold and Throttle body location. We know it fits 100% perfect in a 4th gen because Tilley did it.

Now the problem would be the transmission/driveshaft/however the hell it's done.

Rear suspension wouldn't really be a trouble. My dad converted his 73 firebird rear from original to 4-link and it's not that big of a deal if you know what you're doing.

Good luck man. A turbo, AWD maxima would be ridiculous (in a good way).

I don't think there it would make a huge difference in your 1/4 mile times unless you were running 10s though. Mardi cuts 1.71 60' times running high 11s. And RWD/AWD cars running high 11s usually cut... 1.70 60' times

Some SRTs cutting high 1.6s running high 11s and they're FWD too. AWD/RWD cars running the same times aren't really going to cut anything better than a 1.6. Maybe I'm getting too technical, but I wouldn't drop 5-8 grand and add 200 pounds for such a minimal difference.

Block the rear and front springs, get real slicks, drop it from redline... et voila.

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Yes it is. He wouldn't be able to use the CVT transmission though.
And why not?
Old 04-25-2005 | 12:51 PM
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i'd never every pay for it, but it would still be pretty awesome
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and why not?
I guess not unless he wants to do a one-off program to the ECU to work with the new TCM. Otherwise, he'll have to somehow get a Murano ECU to function on a VQ30. Not only that, but since the USDM CVT is different from the Xtroidal on the JDM, no one knows how reliable it is by adding more than 20whp. That would be enough to deter me away from the CVT.
Old 04-25-2005 | 01:17 PM
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While your at it, go back to the stock spirng/strut setup and you will be able to ford 28" rivers

Seriously, nice project. Keep us all posted on your progress...


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