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Old 05-15-2005, 10:21 PM
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Where is our distrubutor?

Where is the distrubutor in out car? For that matter, where are the spark plug wires? I've never had a car where these things weren't obvious until the Maxima.
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im not sure where the distrutor is, haynes manual will tell you .... there are no spark plug wires, theres only coil packs that connect to the spark plus
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no distributor on 4th gens.
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Distributorless ignition. No mechanical distributor, no cap, no rotor, no wires.......just like just about every single car made in the last 15 years or so


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Where is the distrubutor in out car? For that matter, where are the spark plug wires? I've never had a car where these things weren't obvious until the Maxima.
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Old 05-15-2005, 10:42 PM
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yeah hahah this was a fun thread to read...just did the plugs today...3 under the front plastic cover on the engine, and 3 behind where the front strut tower brace would cross...
 
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Originally Posted by idlingmike
Distributorless ignition. No mechanical distributor, no cap, no rotor, no wires.......just like just about every single car made in the last 15 years or so

thats not true at all.
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:19 AM
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I might have been pushing it with the 15 years part, but what cars in say, the past 10 years or so are still mechanical style distributors?



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thats not true at all.
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:32 AM
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well if you are talking mechanical distributors, as in points, then you better push that back to about 30 years. if you mean mechanical as in simply having a cap and rotor, Chevy trucks still had them at least as late as 2000, and Dodge still used them as late as 2003
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Originally Posted by Guttermouf5150
thats not true at all.
you are very correct, the B series of Honda engines (B16, B18, B20) all used distributors..until the K series came out using distributorless ignitons..ie. coil packs.
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It wouldn't surprise me if there are still a few cars that use distributors. I know the Honda B series used distributors and it was made until 2001. The Nissan Xterra and Frontier with the VG30E or VG33E all had distributors until the new 2005 VQ40 came out. I am sure there are still a few cheap domestic cars that if they don't use distributors they just stopped.

I am not saying that distributors are in any way a good thing, but for some vehicles don't really need direct ignition. Distributors need more maintenance but, we all know some of our coils are terribly reliable either.
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Beat me to the B series. Oh well.
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Originally Posted by h2kSPiG
Beat me to the B series. Oh well.
hahaha...

also, with the whole distrubutor thing, also kind of brings up why some automobiles still use drum brakes instead of discs and pushrods instead of overhead cams, and other OLD technology..
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Lower manufacturing costs. All about the $$$...
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Yeah something like all that...somethings seem to change, while others dont.
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Originally Posted by maximazation
also, with the whole distrubutor thing, also kind of brings up why some automobiles still use drum brakes instead of discs and pushrods instead of overhead cams, and other OLD technology..
I think it is the same reason why some FWD car still don't have a rear independent suspension.
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But had it in 94 then again in 04 ...
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pushrod tech may be old...but it works well.

-not trying to open up an argument on this thread.
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Okay, so I've had a couple of cars newer than '95, but they had traditional spark plug wired, etc. Anyway, the reason I'm asking is due to my faulty tachometer (I wrote about this a couple weeks ago, and still haven't figured it out). Most people I've spoken to say it probably has a bad connection at the distrubutor. If my car doesn't have a distributor, from where does the tach get its "information"? I am quite certain the bad connection is not in the instrument cluster itself.
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I think someone already told you that your tachometer is bad....or maybe that was someone else...
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Originally Posted by isawyou
Okay, so I've had a couple of cars newer than '95, but they had traditional spark plug wired, etc. Anyway, the reason I'm asking is due to my faulty tachometer (I wrote about this a couple weeks ago, and still haven't figured it out). Most people I've spoken to say it probably has a bad connection at the distrubutor. If my car doesn't have a distributor, from where does the tach get its "information"? I am quite certain the bad connection is not in the instrument cluster itself.

i believe its gets connection at computer......but i am prolly wrong
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Don't NASCAR stock cars use carbeurators? Forgive my spelling if it is off.
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What does that have to do with this thread, we're talking about distributor-less ignitione, Nissan DIS.

BTW, Our tachs are "calibrated by 1st graders" (credit SR20DEN) they're badly off, and I also think the 5th gen is more off than the 4th gen, that's been in my expirience.
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Old 05-16-2005, 10:40 AM
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The Honda D-series engines use distrubutors, as well as the B...a few of my friends have them..I don't know about some more recent versions though..
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Originally Posted by isawyou
Where is the distrubutor in out car? For that matter, where are the spark plug wires? I've never had a car where these things weren't obvious until the Maxima.
www.autozone.com for an online haynes manual.
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Old 05-16-2005, 10:50 AM
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Since we are speaking Honda, the first USDM Honda product to use DIS is the 2000 J30A1 on the Honda Accord and the J32A1 on the 2000 Acura TL. Previous J-series engine used a Distributor. One a side note, Honda uses a air-density vs. our metered air.
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My tach seemed a bit off too. I had an RPM switch for my MEVI and it was off and my tach would let me bury it into redline by about 300-400 rpm so I assumed my tach was off. When I asked about it, they said don't worry about it there is nothing you can do.

You can't realiably compare between maxs well because tire size and pressure, speedometer calibration (sometimes even worse than tach), and many other factors can throw this off.

You can try a new guage cluster or a new sensors or even a new ECU, but none fo them promise any results. The most reliable option is to get something with a digital rpm readout. The better ODBII readers have them, many of the piggy backs and car computers add ons will also have them. You could always just mount a huge tach and shift light on your dash.

IIRC the ECU knows how fast the engine is turning by the crank position sensor. The ECU decifers the signal and distributes that to the coil packs and the tach.
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saw some info on this thread and wanted to correct some info.

the 4th gen does not have a distributor, nor is it DistributorLess Ingition.(if it were DIS, it would be 3 coils), our cars are COP(Coil Over Plug)
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^ yep.. Coil over plugs. Not sure what to make of them but i think i rather have the ould distributor due to the cheaper maintence.
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wtf the answer was received months ago why are you post whoring or echoing?

The ignition system is called NISSAN DIRECT IGNITION SYSTEM (NDIS) for the final time
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Old 07-26-2005, 07:34 PM
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what a question. we dont have one. simple as that.
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Originally Posted by Loe max
wtf the answer was received months ago why are you post whoring or echoing?

The ignition system is called NISSAN DIRECT IGNITION SYSTEM (NDIS) for the final time

3rd gens are called NDIS as well.

wait, so are 4th gens? and 5th gen? AND 6th gen. WOW your post was useless.
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like distrib cap and rotor button, ford focus has it, lancers, alot of cars still use them.......i sale like 50 of them a day
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Originally Posted by killcrap
WOW your post was useless.

Your post was equally useless since it was answered months ago
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Originally Posted by RichMax
Don't NASCAR stock cars use carbeurators? Forgive my spelling if it is off.
Yup. They grab a budwiser,marry their sisters, and tune their carbs. Fuel injection is too complex for the south.

Indy, Cart & F1 use high tech fuel injection.
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Originally Posted by ryant35
Yup. They grab a budwiser,marry their sisters, and tune their carbs. Fuel injection is too complex for the south.

Indy, Cart & F1 use high tech fuel injection.
Nascar rules say carb only don't they?
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Originally Posted by Loe max
Nascar rules say carb only don't they?
Exactly, the rules were written by the same sister marrying, bud drinking hillbillies.

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