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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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what is the weight of the honeycombs?

Im freakin READY to get some new rims. But i want to make sure i am INCREASING or at least maintaining the same performance of my car with the rim upgrade. Therefore i am looking to get some rims that weight lighter than stock.
Well i've looked many places, asked some people and i can't really get a solid answer on the weight of the honeycomb stock rims that came on my GLE. I read that it weighs approx. 40 pounds with a tire, but i'm interested in the rim by itself's weight. So tahts the main question.
I've got some wheel styles picked out, but i dont know where is best to get lightweight rims. In order of importance and requirement in my decision it would be 1. 17" 2. lightweight 3. desirable thick 5 spoke style (like the c5's).
My price limit is probably near 150 a wheel. Depending on the brand i can get a discount through my job.
anyway, the main concern is the weight of my current wheels so i can move on with this whole ordeal and get some fly shoes on my ride.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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those rims are fugly
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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It's not only the weight. The larger rims have more rotational inertia and may slow you down further from that.
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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Sawblades weight about 19.x LBS(my friend wieghed them on a scale that goes to the grams)
I believe the honeycombs are made of the same metal as the sawblades and they look like that about about the same amount, so I would say 17-22lbs.
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by konak85
those rims are fugly
thanks for uh.....absolutely no help.

Njmodi- yeah I know, but I figure 17" is what I want so ill try to control the weight factor since I'm definently not buying new 15" rims. Ill calculate all that later.

I wish someone knew the actual weight. Someone told me 25 pounds.

Anyone know anything about forged wheels?
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Check out some rotas they tell you the weights of rota wheels here http://machiii.net/
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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ehh, im not feelin any of the rota's. I like the copse and hyper from 5ZIGEN, but they arent too light.
maybe i'll just have to settle with like a 3 pound difference (assuming my stock wheel is 25 pounds).
if my stock wheels and tires are 40 pounds each, and i switch to a lighter 17" wheel, will my new tires (lower profile to keep the same diameter of my original set up), will the new tires way more than the old?
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Get Toyo T1's they are very light
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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those are tires, right?
hmm how light?
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by njmodi
It's not only the weight. The larger rims have more rotational inertia and may slow you down further from that.
Just curious but wouldn't the overall rim&tire combo be the full rotational inertia?

Or am I only considering diameter...?
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MrEous
Just curious but wouldn't the overall rim&tire combo be the full rotational inertia?

Or am I only considering diameter...?
Rotational inertia depends on how the weight is distributed.

Ex 1: You have a 15" rim with a 4" sidewall tire. If the rim is heavier (per unit area) than the tire, you have more weight (of the rim/tire combination) closer to the axis of rotation (center of the rim).

Ex 2: If you have a 17" rim with a 2" sidewall tire, and again the rim is heavier than the tire (per unit area), then you end up with more weight farther away from the axis of rotation, so you have more rotational inertia in this case.

I can't think of any better way to explain it.
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It's Ok...I understand what you are getting at.

Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by chillin014
those are tires, right?
hmm how light?

spec sheet for T1-S : they are light tires ~21lbs
http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_specsheet.cfm?id=2

Proxes 4 are excellent sport all season tires: spec sheet
http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_specsheet.cfm?id=18

check the www.toyo.com web site for more tire and weight info.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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wheelweights.net Check this site!!!!

GLE wheels 16.5 lb
SE 19.5lb
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by vortechpower
wheelweights.net Check this site!!!!

GLE wheels 16.5 lb
SE 19.5lb
what.........no way 16.5
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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i just dont understand how everyone has a different weight for this wheel.
the guy selling them on ebay said they weighed 25 pounds each.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chillin014
i just dont understand how everyone has a different weight for this wheel.
the guy selling them on ebay said they weighed 25 pounds each.
More false weight = more money in their pockets since you are paying a higher shipping rate.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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wow, thats some shady **** !!
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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this is getting a little irritating...i feel like there's no way to win this weight battle.
but im pretty stubborn, and i dont want any losses.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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Theres only one solution ......Bring a scale, and measure each rim that you want........Thats gonna take awhile, but at least you avoid scams and "maybe 20 pounds?!" you might get online.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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bring a scale to.....where?
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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and that doesnt help me figure out what the weight of my current rim is. im about to freaking call nissan or some ****.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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I guess , if youre looking for the weight of an aftermarket rim, call the Maufacturer.....best idea.

Don't know if the stealership's gonna be much help,though.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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yeah the dealership couldnt tell me anything. "my computers dont tell me weights of rims".
man i did not think this would be so complicated
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Why don't you get off your butt and take off one of your wheels and throw it on a scale?
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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This probably isn't the answer youre looking for........take off the wheel at a tire shop, weigh it, then go from there....Probably not the coolest or slickest way of things, but that's pretty much it.

It seems that no matter what new wheel you get, if its any bigger OR heavier than the 15" stockers, then youre gonna be slower .......I guess youre gonna hafta compensate with a CAI and Y-pipe, eh?

YEEAAAHH......Post # 100 .
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Why don't you get off your butt and take off one of your wheels and throw it on a scale?
because i dont want to know the weight of the rim with the tire included.
thats why.
happy?
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcticW
This probably isn't the answer youre looking for........take off the wheel at a tire shop, weigh it, then go from there....Probably not the coolest or slickest way of things, but that's pretty much it.

It seems that no matter what new wheel you get, if its any bigger OR heavier than the 15" stockers, then youre gonna be slower .......I guess youre gonna hafta compensate with a CAI and Y-pipe, eh?

YEEAAAHH......Post # 100 .
i hear ya, obviously i was trying to avoid that hassle. and i dont really want to compensate for anything. Which is also why i dont want to weigh down my car with stereo equipment or anything like that. Im trying to move forward with everything.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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That makes you a lazy ****. Weigh wheel and tire. Go to tirerack.com and look up the specs/weight of your tire. Then subtract it from the total weight. Simple. But unfortunately that must take more effort than you are willing to put out. But not as much as typing to continue whining about not having the weight available.

Originally Posted by chillin014
because i dont want to know the weight of the rim with the tire included.
thats why.
happy?
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
That makes you a lazy ****. Weigh wheel and tire. Go to tirerack.com and look up the specs/weight of your tire. Then subtract it from the total weight. Simple. But unfortunately that must take more effort than you are willing to put out. But not as much as typing to continue whining about not having the weight available.
Obviously i thought somebody knew the answer, if you think i'm whining, you can excuse yourself from the thread. Like i said, this was not my "last resort", of coarse i could go through the hassle of taking the **** off my car and all that but i figured i'd see if anyone knew anythign here first.
dont start an argument man.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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It just took more effort to be a lazy **** than to go outside and weigh one wheel.

Originally Posted by chillin014
Obviously i thought somebody knew the answer, if you think i'm whining, you can excuse yourself from the thread. Like i said, this was not my "last resort", of coarse i could go through the hassle of taking the **** off my car and all that but i figured i'd see if anyone knew anythign here first.
dont start an argument man.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
It just took more effort to be a lazy **** than to go outside and weigh one wheel.
lol okay?
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