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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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ECU reset

I don't know how many billions times this has been asked, but how long/how many miles does it take (approx) for the ECU to fully rest after resetting it?
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 06:59 AM
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Do you mean adapt to your driving methods? I was never a believer in that theory, but what do I know
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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No I mean giving me back my timing after messing with knock sensor. Maybe I'm just paranoid. The only way I have to verify that is check for wheelspin at 40-45 mph in 2nd gear but even then it's hard to say. I want the car to be running at is potential for Saturday (track event).
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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Immediately. I do not believe in the "ecu adjusts to your mods (or anything else for that matter) over time" hooey.

There are two maps. The normal map and the low octane map (the ecu immediately switches to the low octane map if it detects a certain amount of knock).
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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Okay. I reset it using the 5-sec-left turn-5-sec-right-turn-5-sec-left-turn-5-sec-right-turn flathead screwdriver method. I don't want this crap again, the KS and the harness are both brand f*cking new, and I don't want to be running mid 14's with the sh*tty map Saturday, that would suck.
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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Either one of two things will happen, I can't recall which way the 4th gen does it:

The ECU will slowly advance timing from its default base timing (lets say 12 degrees BTDC) up to 15 degrees BTDC until the knock sensor registers knock. It will only do this during a closed loop operation

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The ECU goes to a default base mapping (15 degrees BTDC) and will keep that base mapping until the knock sensor registers knock during closed loop operation.

SteVTEC can probably answer this question better as he has logged thousands of miles on his OBD-II scanner.
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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I've loosened the bolt holding the KS (I had previously left it VERY tight) and I'm not sure it liked that.
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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The screw is supposed to be turned to the left, counterclockwise when done checking codes.
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Do you mean adapt to your driving methods? I was never a believer in that theory, but what do I know
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Immediately. I do not believe in the "ecu adjusts to your mods (or anything else for that matter) over time" hooey.

There are two maps. The normal map and the low octane map (the ecu immediately switches to the low octane map if it detects a certain amount of knock).
Well in the Nissan Datascan and OBD Scan tech they both have a ECU option to clear the Self learn settings
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVE Sz
The screw is supposed to be turned to the left, counterclockwise when done checking codes.
I just realized that. I did the whole process again. What's wierd is that the light doesn't blink after the first right turn/left turn. It used to do it.
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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I just realized that. I did the whole process again. What's wierd is that the light doesn't blink after the first right turn/left turn. It used to do it.
nah its always LEFT TO RIGHT, and back x 2
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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if it the same procedure as reading codes, and resetting the ecu. then its turn to the right till stop hold then to the left till stop hold
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 05:43 AM
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Just thought about this; maybe the bolt holding the knock sensor isn't tightened enough?
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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It's supposed to be torque'd to 25 ft/lbs or so, not too much more because then it will damage the KS.
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:21 AM
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But if it's too loose I think it might fool the ECU into using the crappy MAP.
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
I don't know how many billions times this has been asked, but how long/how many miles does it take (approx) for the ECU to fully rest after resetting it?
I just drove 200 miles after I killed the battery and it cleared inspection this morning.

Neal, it actually takes about 200 miles after the ECU is reset to hit its 'full ready' state for all of the sensors.
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:28 AM
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Great, now I gotta drive 200 miles before Saturday.
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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Great, now I gotta drive 200 miles before Saturday.
When I reset the ECU then went to have the car inspected, (the day after) it failed so put some miles on that baby.
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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JClaw you dont have some sort of datalogging device? Sound's like you need one Would do you good to monitor your timing and all...
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by deezo
I just drove 200 miles after I killed the battery and it cleared inspection this morning.

Neal, it actually takes about 200 miles after the ECU is reset to hit its 'full ready' state for all of the sensors.

Yep, but having all the sensors in a full ready state is not related to power output. I've dynod 2 stock ECUs back to back to back, one that had been in the car for months, then one I never had in the car, then the same one that I'd had in the car and just removed moments before and all runs were within 1-2hp of eachother.

That's not learning over time, it's just taking the pre-programmed amount of time to bring all the sensors to whatever "full ready" parameter they are supposed to be at.
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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+1. That drive for hours crap is wrong. The ECU relearns info in a matter of minutes. If not less. Just to speed up the process i vary throttle position and load on the engine so the ECU can adjust, then a quick WOT blast for good measure.
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Yep, but having all the sensors in a full ready state is not related to power output. I've dynod 2 stock ECUs back to back to back, one that had been in the car for months, then one I never had in the car, then the same one that I'd had in the car and just removed moments before and all runs were within 1-2hp of eachother.

That's not learning over time, it's just taking the pre-programmed amount of time to bring all the sensors to whatever "full ready" parameter they are supposed to be at.
I thought he was talking in general, not from the power aspect in which I do agree. It does have to "learn" and store what components of the emissions system are enabled and working properly.

I always thought the ECU picked up all of the sensors and they're state instantly upon ignition.

Jclaw, i didn't realize you were talking from a power standpoint.
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Recommended torque which is 25 ft/lbs ( i think ) wouldnt be too loose.
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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i heard like a week
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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We all rive different distances in a week, so you're saying it's time depenadant .. or rather relative to mileage ... or are you jsut being a post ***** so you could post something useless once you get your 15th post
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