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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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Colder Temp...

ok guys i am sure that it is in the stickies somewhere but is there any way to make my car run colder i need it to run about 30 degreese colder...ok here it is i was racing my friends SI (honda civic 00') and when i was about 20 - 30 degreese colder than what i normally run at i heald with him but when the car warmed up i gor walked on...i was thinking to take the thermostat and drilling a fiew small holes till i got the desired tempature but dont know the long term effects, the reason that i came to this is because i cannot find a aftermarket thermostat to replace it if anyone can help me please do
also please dont yell at me for being lazy
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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In the stickys, but Jime has a method for 10-15*.

Why 30*? Were you certain your coolant was 30* cooler and not just the air?

This is not as smart as you think, the car will run rich due to the ECU thinking it's in a different loop.
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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dont put holes in the thermostat...thats ghetto...lol just keep it the way it is.. lowering the temperature of the engine (correct me if im wrong) causes more wear to it.. you get worse gas milage and the emission system doesnt work right...
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
In the stickys, but Jime has a method for 10-15*.

Why 30*? Were you certain your coolant was 30* cooler and not just the air?

This is not as smart as you think, the car will run rich due to the ECU thinking it's in a different loop.
if u dont mind where in the stickies
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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You have fingers and intraweb connection, look.
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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I'm bored as fukc, but do me a favor and dont post in the thread...

http://www.forums.maxima.org/showthr...ght=thermostat
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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ok well i looked in the DIY part of the stickies and i found how to replace the stock with a stock fun nothing on how to make the temp colder
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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Can you not read my post? Click on it maybe .. (left button, or right click and open)

It wont help you do any better against the Civic
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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you know... I can't help but look at this from an engineering persective.

The engine is designed to work best at a certain temp range. which is why you shouldn't drive hard till the engine is warmed up...
someone should find out what the absolute lowest temp we can operate at is.

Operating at lower temperatures can potentially extend the life of the engine by a good deal.

Heres why:
Our aluminum engines are age hardened. It's a process where the aluminum is brought up to around 800° and allowed to sit until the individual metals in the alloy become completely "disolved" (I forget the technical term) after that they are quenched in water which basically locks the metal structure in place. Then! the final step. The aluminum is once again heated, but to a lower temp (300-350°?) and held at that temp for a set time) durring this time the seperate metals in the alloy (magnesium is the main one i think) start to recrystallize a little, which hardens the alluminum to optimal hardness and strength. then the aluminum is quenched for a final time.

Over Thousands of hours of driving the heat of opperation allows the alloy to change and become more and more re-crystallized and eventually the alloy metal becomes weak and the engine fails. Lower opperating temp means this process is slowed down (quite dramatically too. just a 10 or 15° drop in op. temp can mean the diff between 1000 hours of engine use and 1500-2000 hours of use)

So... as I said. If someone knows the absolute lowest safe opperating temp to run at then it could be benifitual to run at that temp theoretically ... though I am sure nissan engineers knew what they were doing when they chose the original temp... so... yeah

My 2 cents
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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^^^ whoa....

'96NismoMaxi, just do things that make your car actually faster.
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 01:35 AM
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wow dude u rox u are getting added to my buddy list and if i have a problem or a question i will just have to message u
anyways thx Fr33way i will just looking to get a project to do b for i put the SC in :P
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Originally Posted by the_3d_man
you know... I can't help but look at this from an engineering persective.

The engine is designed to work best at a certain temp range. which is why you shouldn't drive hard till the engine is warmed up...
someone should find out what the absolute lowest temp we can operate at is.

Operating at lower temperatures can potentially extend the life of the engine by a good deal.

Heres why:
Our aluminum engines are age hardened. It's a process where the aluminum is brought up to around 800° and allowed to sit until the individual metals in the alloy become completely "disolved" (I forget the technical term) after that they are quenched in water which basically locks the metal structure in place. Then! the final step. The aluminum is once again heated, but to a lower temp (300-350°?) and held at that temp for a set time) durring this time the seperate metals in the alloy (magnesium is the main one i think) start to recrystallize a little, which hardens the alluminum to optimal hardness and strength. then the aluminum is quenched for a final time.

Over Thousands of hours of driving the heat of opperation allows the alloy to change and become more and more re-crystallized and eventually the alloy metal becomes weak and the engine fails. Lower opperating temp means this process is slowed down (quite dramatically too. just a 10 or 15° drop in op. temp can mean the diff between 1000 hours of engine use and 1500-2000 hours of use)

So... as I said. If someone knows the absolute lowest safe opperating temp to run at then it could be benifitual to run at that temp theoretically ... though I am sure nissan engineers knew what they were doing when they chose the original temp... so... yeah

My 2 cents
i'm sure you can add a few more cents. so do that and put it somewhere in the stickies, its real educational and interesting.
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 05:44 AM
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My VQ30 has 11 years & 232k and still does fine...

Besides running temp, you need to take into consideration ECU parameters ...
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