_DRU_

just slaughtered a last gen Mustang GT, cant hardly believe it... ok, we pull to a stop sign and he's revving his @*** off with 2 of his friends laughing(we are both 5spd's). i was smilin looked over and revved back. we had our moment of revving then took off, i tear him up off the line while he's spinning out and i have him by 2 carlengths and still pulling. then a car pulls into my lane so i slow down and he flys past me. i go around the car that got in front of me and chase him to a light. we are both in the right lane getting ready to turn right and he's revving and revving. light turns green and he peels out again and i just sit and wait for him to go then he finally starts moving ahead. he turns the corner first and i just drive normally pretending i have nothing to do with the mustang and the mustang slows and waits for me jumping his car forward and forward thinkin hes cool so i just gun it and start pulling on him for a spilt second till he guns it too. too late for him, i pull on him fast and take him down. as i pass him, the passenger looked over at me in suprise and i wave my finger like "come here" and he has no chance to pull on me up to forth gear. i then had to turn left so i braked and got ready to turn left and he is still flooring it going up to a red light. o well, i feel good. any more GT's.. come and get me...

Terminator X

Wow, those guys sound like retards. Well done, but hope you don't find any 99's or newer.

_DRU_

i race a 99+ auto GT before 3 times. i won twice and he won once. these wins were measured in feets at around 80mph. pretty close but im happy with the 2-3 foot wins

Kyle7475

sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

AznWontonboy

yea he is sure. wut car do u have? mustang?

theblue

I can take out every stock (or close to stock) 5.0 that I have raced at the track.. but I know that I would lose to a 4.6

BriGuyMax

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I took out a 5-speed '00 GT last night. It can be done.

maximasrule

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like the other guy said.....sure!! lol ive taken out a cobra but only cause the loser couldnt drive and thought it was cooler to sit in one spot and burn tred then race .... he smoked me once we got on the highway it wasnt even funny! ill say good job but unless you got more mods then stated, the stang woulda kicked the crap outa you if he ahd ANY driving skills.. although i think the max is the best car it isnt a sports car......260hp@5250 and 300lb-ft@4000..... but i am a true advocate of driving skill..... i have beat many cars just on that.

M RDSTR

Cool.... you run 14.9 and took 14.1 GT... .8 difference..
Well, from that theory, I can take any cars run 12.9 since I have done 13.7 with just drop-in K&N filter.....

_DRU_

ooo...magazine times!!

_DRU_

i hear what you are sayin but i reaced an auto. big difference performance wise. at the track near me, 5spd GTs are only running 14.7s and i've seen em run 15.6's with massive wheel spin. so i guess its better stated...i beat the driver of the mustang GT..

MegaMax

I ran a Fox body stang at the track and he Won by a matter of feet. I had FULL load the only thing that I removed was the spare tire. I was VERY happy with that run. He was all LOUD and did a very nice job when he warmed up his tires I was like (Oh, Boy I'm in for a a$$ kicking) When we got back to the Pit he came up to me to see what all I had done because I was able to pull away from him off the line. When he saw I was STOCK with a Stillen HAI was looked shocked..! He was running a 5.0 with only ONE Seat in the car...
I know it's hard to swallow this "Story" but give me a few days to look for my cable to hook up my camcorder to the Computer and you can see this for your self. I have it all on tape..!

To see some incar footage from a Stangs Point of view I do have this Clip..!
Please NOTE: It's 7 Minutes of Street racing and a VERY Large file. Give it a few minutes to Download...

Click Here
To see other Clips go to: NJ Team Ford and click on the VID link.

gakary54

MegaMax

Is anyone from Central NJ that can Help me convert my Camcorder tape into an AVI so I can Post it and PROVE what I have spoken here? As far as the 95 Cobra goes... Like my good friend from Dark Horse Racing says There is NO replacement for Displacement. But it's all in love of the sport so Sure I'll run ya (where are ya from). Don't worry I'll bring the MAX not the 55' Now that would truly be unfair..!

But really If you have any Nice Pics of it or Vids e-mail me as my Brother In-law owns njteamford and I made that site for him and am looking for good vids and Pics.

I Could See it NOW...

Ghost Ryder

Ok... More Mustang talk.. Need to get involved..

First.. TheBlue... Only mods I see listed are cosmetic.. and last I checked.. cosmetic mods, rarely effect E.T. But then I read a post on some Honda board and they stated 3 Japenese stickers = 8.3 HP..

To answer the 1st post, did U really beat a Mustang.. Hmmmmm... You beat a bad driver.. In a really good car..

Sincerely,
Henry Ford
Deerborn, Michigan

MAXINXS

I went to the website and couldn't open any of the other video files. Any help?

Jeff92se

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Ah so? If that was the case, why did the mustang guy run? Why do street races even exist?? If the whole world revolved around what's listed the magazines, no one would race. Why have sactioned drags if you can just calculate what each mod would do??

In case you haven't noticed, racing includes the guy behind the wheel. If he can't drive, that's his own damn fault.

Ghost Ryder

Jeff92SE: I totally agree with your statement.. But would I write home if I beat a '01 vette with a punk kid who lights em up at a light.. obviously with daddys car or some other close scenario.. I dont think so.. If I beat him and we were neck and neck, you can hear his car cranking... and I pulled off the win... I would post that everywhere.

A "W" is a "W" bottom line..

But.. Know the enemy..

Jeff92se

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Okay as long as we understand what you getting at. But by the looks of the orignal post, he knew his enemy very well. LOL.

Ghost Ryder

LOL.. Hmmmm.. He got lucky..

Let me ask a question here.. On this board, how many people actually go to the track and race their car. It just boggles my mind.. with the Mods list.. Titanium Cigarette Lighter.. Carbon fiber antenna.. etc.. Im sure some have some good credentials.. head work, beefed up tranny.. whatever.. Please shed some light for me..

I usually see some wacky 8 foot-3 tiered wing, lowered car with some big a$$ fart pipe and hope I get a run.. but I get tiny headlights in my mirror.. I must say I will point this more towards Honda though.. but I figure its an "Import thing"

BriGuyMax

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You have a lot to learn about cars......

BTW - if you read my sig...you'd notice that that was my SECOND run on a track EVER...and that was with a 2.4 60'. The next time I went to the track a few weeks ago...with a slipping clutch I might add...I ran 15.0s (cuz of the clutch and the 90 degree weather) with 2.1 60's...now if you do the math...my car is a good bit quicker than 14.9...and new 5-speed stangs don't run 14.1 in the 1320...when I was at the track they were running 14.7 to 15.1s.

Review of today's lesson: think before you post

Jeff92se

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You know I don't really like where this is going. There are many guys here that go to the track. But there are many more that don't. You mean to tell me that 90% of all the mustang guys at corral.net go to the track?? As far as calling our cars rice or whatever your trying to imply, I see alot of stupid idiot cosmetic mods on Mustangs around here also. I especially like the ones that take off all the badging and add duals to their V6 mustang LOL!!

There are lots of fast Maximas here. Not alot w/ head work because it's not the limiting factor. Most Japanese makers already make their heads efficent, thus not alot of work is needed. I wonder why Ford guys always brag about headwork. To me, it just means their heads were cast-flashed to hell and don't flow well from the factory.

I can't say too much about what type of cars you race. But then again it seems you have no idea either. If you want to lump us w/ all the cars, I guess I should lump you w/ all the Escort GTs too. Mustang GT, Escort GT, same thing according to you right?

As far as power, is that what your trying to get at?? I have a 1992 maxima w/ 190hp V6. In 1992, how much power did Ford's V6 mustang make?? How how big was that engine? 3.8 liters and what, 160hp?? Wow! In fact how much did Ford's mustang V8 engine make?? 5.0 and around 200-220hp?? Big deal. Nissan's 4 liter V8 made 280 hp. Nissan's new V8(still at 4.1 or 4.2 liters about 320 hp) *ahem* Didn't it take a Ford recall and 2 years for Ford to FINALLY make that hp out of their 4.6 Cobra motor??

And finally. You want to know why I chose a Nissan Maxima VS a Ford whatever?? I took look around and tried to count how many 1992 Ford ANYTHING that's still on the road. Let's just say I didn't need the other hand LOL! I probably see more 3-gen Maximas that are 8-10 years old vs ALL OF WHAT FORD MAKES IN THE SAME 8-10 YEAR OLD RANGE.

BriGuyMax

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Go easy on him man....remember...engine displacement is inversly proportional to **** size.

Ghost Ryder

Now, I didn't say my car was all that fast (In the group I go down with and others from clubs Im with.. I am by far one of the slowest cars when we go down in a group).. there is always another car out there that will leave you seeing his taillights.. But I always look for a lil run here or there.. and the times I went after Imports... I have not been beat.. and Im not saying.. someone out there cannot beat me in an import.. I only ran a best of 13.1 @ 105.3.. and had some other work done.. Untested.. But I should nip into the 12's.. with a 12.8 or so.. ((But at the drags.. that aint $hit))I have seen some cool Talons that ripped some awesome times at E-town.. and Lebannon Valley.. Plus those rediculous Starlings.. that run 9's.. but.. On the road.. and I have battled a few Imports.. I really have yet to see something that made me go.. Holy $hit.. nice ride.. whats done to it.. Especially the ones that "CLAIM" speed all over it... Greddy this... ICEMAN that...

I have been crushed by a Buick GN.. that was one hell of a sleeper and we BS's about it afterwards.. Im just looking for a good run.. Back to the main point.. even on the posts to this.. Multiple, non-horse power/traction/tranny.." Mods " listed..

Jeff92se

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Well I'm sure there are more than a few "rice" MKIV Supra twin turbos running BPU or more that would enjoy lining up w/ you. They are only 6 cylinders right?

MegaMax

Not only do our Maximas have the Potential (Not that the 2002 Maxima SE 260 HP V6 isn't) to be Fast but also LOOK good too.

So why not also list Everything even Non-HP Mods?

Ghost Ryder

Ok.. So this goes back to know the Enemy!! Which If Im not mistaken.. that one, runs over 40K correct.. Give me half the cash that car actually cost and Ill blow by it so fast, Ill suck his winshield out!

Anyone can buy a car off the showroom floor and wax cars that cost steep $$.. But make a car that has 190 - 230 HP stock.. and have those whoop on cars that cost a hell of a lot more.. now thats fun..

Hey, were all in the same sport and this is what makes it fun.. Rivalries.. How boring would racing be if we all owned equally setup Vipers.. This is all part of the game..

MegaMax

Did Someone say Viper?
Is a viper REALLY fast? 4 Meg file..!

Jeff92se

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Nope. Used ones are in the 20-28k range. I wish you would stop changing the rules here. Well give me 1/2 of what you got I can do the same. Why don't I just put a built 350 Chevy motor into a Datsun 240z and go to town?? It's becuase the Supra owner wants a car that's fast and will still be in good condition in 10 years. Nowhere in your post did you mention cost. Just the fact the car was Japanese made. Ugh....

bill99gxe

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*sigh*

Never let facts get in the way of a good story.

Have you NOT learned that yet?

fast4d

good driving!

Wheel spin/tire smoke looks cool but bad for ET!!

maximasrule

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hey dude i hate to burst your bubble but think about it.... if all cars are written up by a magazine useing the same drivers and all the times are yes not the cars fastest but they are "normall times" so comparing cars by normal times is perfectly exceptable.. they are all relitive to the cars potential... damn next time think before you try and slam on other ppl

dan (im good!!)

PerfRed99GT

Hey gang, not here to cause trouble and this is the first time I'll post anywhere but a Mustang or Grand National site but if you thing stock 99+ GT's don't run 14.1's or better you really don't know the enemy. Many of the 99+ GT's are running high 13's. With my car having just over 3k miles and bone stock my second run ever pulled a 14.009@99.1 with a 2.136 sixty. It's only gone down since then.

Adding 3.73's and exhaust got me 13.8. Then Nittos got 13.45, Now I added a Paxton blower and with traction troubles and barely tuned got a 12.99@108.43. The car has since picked up another 30 rwhp and there are more goodies on the way. This car will hopefully be a daily driven, full body, full interior, 11 second car that gets 25 miles per gallon on the highway by the end of the summer. And without nitrous. Hmm, maybe I'll add that too!

The point is, there are average time for the slowest of GT's which would be a convertible automatic is still around 14.5. Not magizine numbers either. If your beating 5 speed GT's it's because you got a jump and didn't run the race long enough.

One other thing you might want to think of, is while the V8 is fighting traction during a launch he'll probably make it up at the other end of the track, IF it goes that long. Without my Nittos I used to killed by almost everything on the road, but I could do one hell of a burnout show at the stoplight!

That are plenty of GT's beating LS-1s to sixty only to find out that the second half of the track is where the finish line is and HP is what carries you down that last 1/8.

BTW, my website has many of my runs on mpegs and scans of almost all of my times slips except for the latest ones.

Check out http://www.corral.net sometime if you want to really see what we're running.

Ed
http://members.home.com/edclarkiv

Jeff92se

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Now this is a nice post. And a fast car! Let's see, intelligent poster, informative information, links so see more and to back his claims, doesn't flame the underdogs and seems like a nice person.

Unfortunately, these types of posts are the exception and not the norm. I wish it could be the other way around.

Ghost Ryder

Now, Im insulted.. I have not been starting any flames.. I just asking some questions.. I basically stated, some generic questions... Wow.. Tuff crowd..

Jeff92se

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Tuff and well informed. Don't you think? I doubt when you 1st posted here, you get replies like this. Sorry but the way your posts were, I saw flame bait right away. If your intentions were sincere, sorry. But we get people from other boards, downing us all the time. You requested us to "know thy enemy", but at the same time you lumped us w/ all the other rice mobiles out there. Right?

Ghost Ryder

I was not trying to start a war, but did want some answers to those questions.. Since Im not into imports, I will say that is like you saying.. All american cars.. IE Chevy.. which is to Ford.. "Public Enemy #1" So it makes a lil more sense.. But I still state.. I do see alot of posts with non performance mods..listed.. Strobe lights... etc..

I really just love looking for a good run.. on the street or on the track!

Keep it safe..

Jeff92se

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Well I will still state that almost every board will have people preferring cosmetic mods to performance mods. Do I like cosmetic mods? No not really. But as I'll state again, I see just as much cosmetic mods on American cars as I do on imports. In fact, on corral.net, two mods I see are blacking out the "GT" on the bumber and modding the tailights to the sequential style ala Mercury Cougar. Exactly how much hp do those mods add?

_DRU_

how bout this... most of the cars that magazine thuroughly test are RWD high HP/Tq sports cars right? they have a good feel of the cars...GTs, trans ams, firebirds, porsches....all in the same family. when it comes time to push these cars to the limit, they can do it. but when they try and get times for a 4DSC, things wont come easy to them. took me at least a month before i got my take offs down. those magazine drivers will only drive it for a day or two. they cant get the feel of the car and cant get the best times the car is capable of. so i dont think its fair to compare magazine times when the test driver is used to driving RWD sports cars, not FWD four door sedans. do i make sense or do you still drool over magazine times? thus, they are not all relative times to what a car can do. a magazine test our maxima at 15.4s when someones running 14.7s!!! how relative is that? i dont mean to slam you but i think its stupid how people try and back there stuff up with magazines. if you ever go to the track, you will see plenty of GTs in the high 14's and low 15's where you will also see some rarely in the low 14's, all stock might i add. so dont try and compare using magazines. its more about the driver, dont you think?

Ghost Ryder

I hear ya... Little mods here and there are ok.. the rest.. expensive weight to slow you up.. thats my 2 cents..

Do you ever run in the Detroit Iron VS Hi Tech Imports at
E-town..