*Calling all S-Tech owners. Step inside*
#1
*Calling all S-Tech owners. Step inside*
I've done the google search tip and havne't found exactly what i needed to hear. I am thinking of going from my H&R/Tokico HP setup i have now, to a S-TECH setup of some sort. My questions are these.
#1 - What is your setup (shock combo) and on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the best) what is the ride quality? I'm assuming that you drive on all sorts of roads, either being smooth or bumpy at times.
#2 How is the drop? From what i've seen there is a slight rake due to the fronts being 2.2 and the rears 1.8. Now has TEIN redesigned them or are the still the same? i have an auto so that doens't help the rake i know. Also, do you bottom out much? I know with people in the car it happens a lot, but what about by yourself?
Pictures don't hurt either!
#1 - What is your setup (shock combo) and on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the best) what is the ride quality? I'm assuming that you drive on all sorts of roads, either being smooth or bumpy at times.
#2 How is the drop? From what i've seen there is a slight rake due to the fronts being 2.2 and the rears 1.8. Now has TEIN redesigned them or are the still the same? i have an auto so that doens't help the rake i know. Also, do you bottom out much? I know with people in the car it happens a lot, but what about by yourself?
Pictures don't hurt either!
#2
Dont waste your time w/ S-techs. I had them for about a week before I changed back to my Progress Springs. They are too soft a spring rate to drop as low as they do and still be a high performing spring. If you want to drop that low, IMHO the only way to do it is w/ coilovers. You just sacrifice way to much suspension travel w/ the S-techs. They rode much worse than my D2's do also.
#3
i have them right now but i am getting progress springs soon becasue i am getting a stillen lip and that+ s techs + utah roads= ruined stillen lip. with out anyone in the car the ride is nice its the more people the worse the ride, i have KYB GR-2 struts, they ride decent for the money... just save up and get tein SS coil overs.
#4
I have s-techs paired with kyb agxs....I must say, for what I paid....I wish I went with some k sport coilovers.....The ride is kind of bumpy even with my shocks turned up pretty stiff...I think I'm currently riding 2 in front and 4 in rear.
Also, I dont like the way the front sits lower than the rear...I thought .4 of an inch wouldnt be noticable but it looks like a dragster IMO...
So my advice....go with coilovers....
Also, I dont like the way the front sits lower than the rear...I thought .4 of an inch wouldnt be noticable but it looks like a dragster IMO...
So my advice....go with coilovers....
#5
I have the S-techs with AGXs ride is rough... you will get very friendly with the bump stops with this setup. It looks cool but if I had it to do over I would buy coilovers instead. The extra bucks you spend on real coilovers will be well spent.
#7
i have s-tech on tokico hp (front)/kyb agx (rear)....the rear is very firm, but the front is just way too soft. eventually i will end up with D2s/ksports, or possibly just change the front shocks.
like other said, s-tech has very soft spring rate... u can always go for sprint springs for alternative. lastly, i would not recommend pairing up s-tech with tokico HP because it's just way too soft...
like other said, s-tech has very soft spring rate... u can always go for sprint springs for alternative. lastly, i would not recommend pairing up s-tech with tokico HP because it's just way too soft...
#8
thanks for the input guys. First off "too soft" to me might mean good. I do not want harsh ride like with some combo's. Now by too soft you mean floaty then i probably won't do it. I also don't care that much to do coilovers. I have a $3,000 car and its not really worth it. I just wanted a little lower drop than my H&R's gave me but with same confort or about the same.
#9
Originally Posted by LudeAEM
thanks for the input guys. First off "too soft" to me might mean good. I do not want harsh ride like with some combo's. Now by too soft you mean floaty then i probably won't do it. I also don't care that much to do coilovers. I have a $3,000 car and its not really worth it. I just wanted a little lower drop than my H&R's gave me but with same confort or about the same.
You should really look into the Progress Springs - they are far superior IMO. They ride much better, allow for more suspension travel due to their ride height and spring rate, and will drop lower than the H&R's.
#10
By too soft, they mean that the ride is compromised because the spring doesn't have the spring rate settings to recover from harsh bumps, forcing your bumpstops to do the work. Or at least this is how I've percieved everyone's opinions on them. S-tech owners who have said this, please correct or confirm.
#14
Originally Posted by BigLou93SE
By too soft, they mean that the ride is compromised because the spring doesn't have the spring rate settings to recover from harsh bumps, forcing your bumpstops to do the work. Or at least this is how I've percieved everyone's opinions on them. S-tech owners who have said this, please correct or confirm.
#15
Originally Posted by BigLou93SE
By too soft, they mean that the ride is compromised because the spring doesn't have the spring rate settings to recover from harsh bumps, forcing your bumpstops to do the work. Or at least this is how I've percieved everyone's opinions on them. S-tech owners who have said this, please correct or confirm.
correct, their soft rate will result in a bouncy ride and does not allow the strut to travel far enough since the softness of the spring is allowing the weight of the car to keep the strut from traveling an optimal distance.
#17
I have S-techs paired with Illuminas, right now at setting 3 all around they bottom out quite easily if I don't realize how deep the frost heaves are. When they are on 5 all around they are a good combo. But I wouldn't call them great. The springs are now "worn in" and they are quite a bit softer than I expected them to be at that drop. The roads I drive are very bumpy though.
#18
i have s-techs with agx...the ride is stiff and it bounces a good amount. definitely not as smooth as my eibach setup or my progress setup with the same strut. the drop is great though.
#19
Originally Posted by kingrukus
i have s-techs with agx...the ride is stiff and it bounces a good amount. definitely not as smooth as my eibach setup or my progress setup with the same strut. the drop is great though.
i had maxspeed springs before, they were smooth...but the drop just wasn't enough.
#20
I have mine paired with AGXs and i love them. Everyones opinion on ride quality is different so you really need to just ride in someones car that has the setup you want. I like a firmer/sportier ride and leave the AGXs set to 3-front/6-rear. When you set it at 4/8 the car feels flat as a pancake and with my BGF G-Forces it rides like a go-cart, which i sometimes like too. I find if you have the rears set to soft it will give you a bouncey ride so i tend to leave the back on 6 regaurdless of what the front is.
#21
Illuminas 2/3. 3/4 rode hard. Wish the springs themselves were stiffer. I have a 35 series sidewall I find them to ride pretty good for a soft spring. I hit the bumpstops maybe 2-3 times. Just cut the bumpstops all the way down. The rake is OK it looks way better at a distance. Up close it's about 27" from fender to ground. I think it's the best drop. You can go lower with coilovers but for me it's not worth the additional sacrifice in clearance.
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#22
S-tech/Illumina's here..
As others have said they are really too soft for the drop that they give. I find myself hitting the bumpstops frequently, but thats because I am a aggressive driver. With settings at 3/3 the car rides smooth but not as smooth as my previous Tokico spring/Illumina's. I wanted the lower stance but lost a bit of performance. Looks damn good though..
As others have said they are really too soft for the drop that they give. I find myself hitting the bumpstops frequently, but thats because I am a aggressive driver. With settings at 3/3 the car rides smooth but not as smooth as my previous Tokico spring/Illumina's. I wanted the lower stance but lost a bit of performance. Looks damn good though..
#23
i have the s-techs paired with kyb agx's, and it's a little rough, but nothing super harsh, and i have some bad roads over here. You just have to look out for the big potholes a little better. I think it's definitely worth the 400 i payed for the suspension.
#24
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Originally Posted by NCSU_MAX
correct, their soft rate will result in a bouncy ride and does not allow the strut to travel far enough since the softness of the spring is allowing the weight of the car to keep the strut from traveling an optimal distance.
#27
simple, bc the spring is so soft it allows the weight of the car to compress the strut beyond an optimal traveling distance. The strut needs to be able to compress and expand well for to perform well. As a result you hit the bumpstops during aggressive cornering rather than getting full suspension travel.
#28
Originally Posted by gtr_rider
S-tech/Illumina's here..
As others have said they are really too soft for the drop that they give. I find myself hitting the bumpstops frequently, but thats because I am a aggressive driver. With settings at 3/3 the car rides smooth but not as smooth as my previous Tokico spring/Illumina's. I wanted the lower stance but lost a bit of performance. Looks damn good though..
As others have said they are really too soft for the drop that they give. I find myself hitting the bumpstops frequently, but thats because I am a aggressive driver. With settings at 3/3 the car rides smooth but not as smooth as my previous Tokico spring/Illumina's. I wanted the lower stance but lost a bit of performance. Looks damn good though..
#29
Originally Posted by happyricefob
luke when did u switch to s-tech? i didn't even know that...
#31
Originally Posted by gtr_rider
I was running the Tokico kit for about a year, and swapped out to S-tech's on Dec 24, wish I still had my tokico ride with s-tech drop though
i wish i had the maxspeed ride quality on s-tech.
#33
I have S and Illumina's and agree with all on the softness. Also, it may just be me but I would like to go lower, it just does not feel like much, if anything, maybe I just need to get a Stillen kit I have mud flaps and they are fine most of the time, have scraped them a couple of times but this was in an area I figured it would hit, otherwise its fine.
#34
I got S-techs w/AGXs...stock tires=decent ride, handling, and nice drop. 18" rims=rough ride, better handling, looks great! Also, I learned u can't get the best of both worlds(at least w/o drillin a hole in ur wallet)...either more comfort or more handling. If I had to do it all over again...I would get K-sport coilovers.
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