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ha, my friend in his 1999 Cougar had to have his sunroof rebuilt, and it cost him $1500 total. Apparently Ford/Mercury used PLASTIC tracks on the early cougars, and pretty much everyone breaks, and yet there is no recall, etc. He was slightly upset over that...

 

You do not have anything wise to say my friend. You drive a Nissan Maxima and are talking about shaving pounds off the roof for at-the-limit handling...

Do you have coilovers? chassis braces? SFC's? STFU n00b....

 

that pretty much sums it up. IBdalock

 

i liked mine, i never used it but every once in awhile, until the flimsy peice fo **** broke and rattles nom-stop

 

I wouldn't buy a car without a factory sunroof. Makes the car more luxurious. Stylin and profilin.

 

LOLZ.......pretty much

 

I LOVE MY SUNROOF.. use it all the time.

 

I would kill for a factory sunroof. My car was an GXE and never had one.

 

I like my sunroof. No, I love my sunroof. I don't use it constantly, but frequently. It definitely adds something to the car.

Anyway, I really don't know why everyone's in such a huss. The sunroof will shave ~30lbs off of the part of the car furthest from the lateral roll axis, and that's important. People are now saying stuff like "you drive a Maxima, stfu," and while they do have a point, no one says that about, say, lightweight wheels... the effect is slightly different and more subdued, but it's the same idea. Yes, cars without sunroofs will always perform better and have a slightly better feel to them than their sunroof counterparts, there's no questioning that. It will be a subtle difference and it won't matter much, but they will be undeniably quicker.

You should know by now that roadholding Gs have nothing to do with the handling of the car, and have nothing to do with body roll (which is where the sunroof is important). While I do get what you're trying to say, it's really not that relevant; the sunroof deletion and lightweight roof definitely helped the car.

Also, we should keep in mind that our cars are getting a little old. A sunroof equipped Max at 11 years old is possibly going to be not too impressive structurally as compared to when it is new. Besides that, as they age they spring leaks, rust, get stuck, require a lot of money, etc. If you didn't want one in the first place then I can understand why this would get old quickly and you'd feel like ranting about it.

HOWEVER, I definitely agree that mods such as suspension, wheels/tires, SFCs, RSB, FSTB, LTBs, LCAs, replacing suspension components with new ones, etc will definitely help the handling significantly more than the deletion of a sunroof. Yeah, you got stuck with a sunroof, if you can't deal with it then look for a max without one, but otherwise start modding up and you shouldn't notice it much.

 

I live in So Cal and use mine during the summer at night, it's the BEST!!!!

 

Keep it clean in here. As you were, as you were...

 

LOVE my factory roof and won't EVER own another car without it!! Open it all the time when the weather is nice, especially on a nice summer night when the stars are out. Mine is NOT noisy, more noisy when on tilt. Absolutely love it!!!

 

I agree, I pulled those numbers quickly without thinking very much into it. While I understand every once saved helps as does the solid roof, I am going to say that the handling change is comparable to that of switching to a better set of tires.

 

Hmm.. you mean between the evo and MR, or between a sunroof and non-sunroof'd car?

 

SR/non

The MR has revised dampening and lighter wheels. I'm not sure on the tires but it's a possibility that they were changed as well.

 

The revised dampening was in the interest of a smoother ride, not better handling necessarily. That lower dampening rate allows for higher suspension stroke speed over rough terrain, improving ride quality.

 

yes i love my sunroof. almost everytime i drive in the city i open it. Its the first windows to be open after winter. When i light a cigars it's the better way to get the smoke out. For the xtra weght,i think suspension and tires make a better part in bad handling then a few more pounds to the roff.

 

Seems odd that they would imporve ride quality on the MR model. In reading the review I ***umed that they were speaking of handling as all the other things they mentioned did.

 

Do you even know where the control is?

 

I peronsolly LOVE mine. I LOVE cars with sunroofs. I guess I am still kinda young "25", but i love the extra sunlight and extra wind. Makes it feel more open and free... haha

 

I wish my 1997 Maxima GLE has a sunroof.

 

Few extra pounds...who cares unless you are a hard core daily racer but you should not be racing on the streets anyways.

In that case, why does the max even come with a SPARE TIRE, real race cars don't need spares on the track etc... I think if you want a real race car, go and get one. THe Max is as everyone says mostly a family car that we all love and that we mod to make daily driving a bit more fun.

I take corners just fine with my sunroof. I use it not to vent but to get some overhead light as light = happiness.

 

its not a few extra pounds but close to 30. if you think about it then why do people swap their oem hoods for carbon fiber? most people do it to save weight and not having a sunroof saves weight.

 

I love sunroofs mostly becuase it lets a lot more light into the car. When it is closed I feel like the car is so much smaller (kind of tall at 6'3) so I have it open in any car I can just to avoid feeling like my head is going to hit the ceiling.

 

I love my sunroof! I wont buy a car that dosent have one. My tundra has one, my M3 has one , the Max has one. I love to open it up and just cruise, it is pure freedom. If you are worried about extra weight and speed, you need to get another car. I bought my 2004 M3 for that reason. My Max was totally modded but it isnt a car that has real speed. I have had 3 maximas and I love them to death but if you want a race car go buy one. Long live the sunroof.