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Old 04-19-2006, 07:11 AM
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BBK Finally Installed

Finally after a few issues and spacing problems they are on.....because my wheels offset is so retarded I had to use 20mm spacers....the fitment of the brackets wasnt as great as i hoped but they seem to be ok now...this is the Blehmco 12.6" rotor kit BTW




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Old 04-19-2006, 08:05 AM
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daamn!!!
that stuff looks crazy.
congrats man!!
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Old 04-19-2006, 11:41 AM
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nice.looks great man..im trying to find some 300zx calipers as of now. how much did u spend totally for the whole swap?
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Old 04-19-2006, 11:59 AM
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Looks great bro - any reason to not have gone with Cobra rotors? You seem to be making a lot of progress lately on your car, nice job!
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Good job man
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Old 04-19-2006, 12:55 PM
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Hey are those Enkie RSF-2's if thats the case fdo you think a 12.5mm spacer will work or not. I have all the parts for the bbk on the way and I have order 12.5 mm spacer for the front and a 5mm spacer for the rear, and also did you need longer studs?? and what size studs did you get and from where?

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Old 04-19-2006, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BigLou93SE
Looks great bro - any reason to not have gone with Cobra rotors? You seem to be making a lot of progress lately on your car, nice job!
the main reason i wnet with the maxima rotors is because hub bore size and more pad contact....if u look closely at the cobra kits about 3/16"-1/4" of the upper portion of the pad does dont make contact with the rotor....with these rotors that issue is jaut about 1/16" if any.....plus i would ratehr have a Nissan replacement part on my car than a Ford part...

and yes the past few weeks have been busy in my parents driveway auto-x starts this weekend so now i am just fine tuning...although i need to replace an axle soon.......

as far as spacers go....i think a 15mm spacer will work for my application but it really all depends on ur particular offset.....when i did an apporximation measurement like Matt says on his webesite it was close so i opted to be safe and get the a lil larger....the studs came with the spacers they are H&R spacers......i will be running 5mm spacers in teh rear in a few weeks....i ordered them from optionsauto.com

cost of swap goes as follows

200 for brackets and lines from mattblehm.com
75 for Hawk HPS Pads
i got a deal on calipers from a friend I paid 80 for the pair...if u goto Autozone/NAPA/Advanced pay 80 for each side or more depending on brand of reman co. and if u have cores or not. i suggest try ebay first.
120 for rotors
120 for spacers

600 total give or take for an awesome BBK.....Brembos 13" kit goes for 1700 bux for 1pc rotors and 4 piston calipers.....SSBC 2 piston calipers and 12" rotors goes for 800
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Old 04-19-2006, 01:03 PM
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Um there's no way that there is that much overhang. My experience is that pad overhang is 2/16" at the very most. Any perceived "loss" in pad contact is more than made up using a rotor that's 0.4" larger.

It's nice to have all Nissan stuff. I can understand that. But Nissan/Ford (actually everyone) don't make their rotors. They all subcontract that part to one of the many makers that supply OEM parts to them.

I'm not condoning one kit over the other, just want to make sure the correct information is out there.

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the main reason i wnet with the maxima rotors is because hub bore size and more pad contact....if u look closely at the cobra kits about 3/16"-1/4" of the upper portion of the pad does dont make contact with the rotor....with these rotors that issue is jaut about 1/16" if any.....plus i would ratehr have a Nissan replacement part on my car than a Ford part...

and yes the past few weeks have been busy in my parents driveway auto-x starts this weekend so now i am just fine tuning...although i need to replace an axle soon
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Um there's no way that there is that much overhang. My experience is that pad overhang is 2/16" at the very most. Any perceived "loss" in pad contact is more than made up using a rotor that's 0.4" larger.

It's nice to have all Nissan stuff. I can understand that. But Nissan/Ford (actually everyone) don't make their rotors. They all subcontract that part to one of the many makers that supply OEM parts to them.

I'm not condoning one kit over the other, just want to make sure the correct information is out there.
my measurements may be a little off but i am just lookign at my scales in front of me and trying to remmeber pictures....and i know most rotors are contracted out but they are made to NIssan Ford Chevy specs....
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Old 04-19-2006, 01:13 PM
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Yes, the measurements are little off. But when your wrong buy a few 16ths, it seems like ALOT of difference. Which there isn't. In theory, because Matt's kit uses close to a .5" smaller rotor, you can get the caliper down closer to the rotor. But it's really how close one chooses to mount the caliper body to the top of the rotor. I chose as little wiggle room as I felt comfortable with. Especially with people buy rotors from all over the place.

I really doubt Nissan/Ford specs on rotors are all the different. Especially when the 13" Ford cobra rotor is on Ford's premier muscle car and the maxima rotor is from Nissan family sedan series.

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my measurements may be a little off but i am just lookign at my scales in front of me and trying to remmeber pictures....and i know most rotors are contracted out but they are made to NIssan Ford Chevy specs....
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well whatever i am not trying to mock or discourage anyone from buying ur kit...cause believe me matts brakect had a few flaws...i can rant about...he asked y i opted for matts kit and i told him....and on a side not IMO its sad ford premier muscle car has almost the same size brakes as a family sedan
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Old 04-19-2006, 01:27 PM
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Um wha?? Think about this.

Ford put 13" rotors and big 2 piston Baer calipers on their cobras back in 1993. .

What did Nissan have for their sedan in 1993? 11.x" rotors. Plus the maxima got only single piston calipers. The biggest sedan that still used the single piston caliper.

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....and on a side not IMO its sad ford premier muscle car has almost the same size brakes as a family sedan
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
....the fitment of the brackets wasnt as great as i hoped but they seem to be ok now...this is the Blehmco 12.6" rotor kit BTW

Can you elaborate? i am planning on purchasing Matts brackets tomorrow. What were the fitment problems?
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Old 04-19-2006, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Especially when the 13" Ford cobra rotor is on Ford's premier muscle car and the maxima rotor is from Nissan family sedan series.

Non brembo Z' use this 12.6x1.1 rotor, my brothers M45 uses this 12.6x1.1 rotor and so does the altima ser.
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Old 04-19-2006, 05:55 PM
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Jeff's brackets are on the money
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:17 PM
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Yup and still used a single piston caliper. The 03 Gs use this rotor. And they worked so well that infiniti issued a warranty revision to replace the pads/rotors free for 3 yrs/36,000 miles. My 03 brakes are excellent though.

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Non brembo Z' use this 12.6x1.1 rotor, my brothers M45 uses this 12.6x1.1 rotor and so does the altima ser.
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:19 PM
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the biggest issue i had with matts brackets was the powercoat was in the holes and i had to drill them out to get the bolts to go through...also there are multiple ways the brackets will bolt up and u wont know if its right until u get everything together...i fu l ook at other peoples installations their calipers are way off compared to mine and matts website....and jeff i am not picking a fight but Ford has to outsource their brake development to BAER to get decent brakes....and regular mustang not Cobra Rs had Escort GT brakes in the early 90s....mean while Nissan was using 4 piston 30mm thick rotors on the Z in 1990..adn 2 piston rear calipers....sure they werent 13" but i will bet Zs stopped better than mustangs.....and Jeff maybe in a year when i need to do brakes ill buy ur brackets to see which ones are actually better....but like i said i chose matts for my own particulat reasons...IMO both are great value compared to Brembo or SSBC or Wilwood
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When I had my 4th gen I chose to go with Jeff's brackets and hub rings as there was just way more options ( and competiton = cheaper prices) when it came down to purchasing 13" cobra rotors as these rotors had been available for over a decade. I did end up purchasing the SS brake lines from Matt so thanks to both of these guy's efforts we all reap the rewards of an excellent BBK upgrade for a bargain price!
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Old 04-19-2006, 07:28 PM
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The Z32 guys complained about their brake performance. The calipers were good. But they stuffed the nice calipers under a 16" wheel with tiny rotors. Meanwhile the SupraTT had 17s and superior brakes. I'll have to look it up but I'm going to say the Cobra stopped shorter than the Z32. Once you have gone to Matt's or mine, just stick w/ it. Both r fine
edit: 03 cobra 60-0 time is 121 ft. Not bad for a 1993 Ford
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Yup and still used a single piston caliper. The 03 Gs use this rotor. And they worked so well that infiniti issued a warranty revision to replace the pads/rotors free for 3 yrs/36,000 miles. My 03 brakes are excellent though.
The G35 coupe and M45 use this setup with a 2 piston caliper. I know for a fact. When i was helping my brother take off his winter wheels i saw them. they are more than sufficent for that car so i think on a lighter maxima they will be more than what i need.
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Old 04-19-2006, 07:48 PM
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That's why I mentioned the my car(sedan). Matt's kit is fine. My kit is fine. That was never in question

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The G35 coupe and M45 use this setup with a 2 piston caliper. I know for a fact. When i was helping my brother take off his winter wheels i saw them. they are more than engine for that car so i think on a lighter maxima they will be more than enough.
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