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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Air Intake Question

I Think The One I Am Going To Go With Is The "ram Air". If I Am Correct, This Is The Short Connection. The Question I Have Is About The Air Flow Sensor. I Have Seen The Ram Air Intakes On Ebay And Other Sites For Like 20-80 Bucks, But Then I Have Seen Some That Include The Air Flow Sensor For Like 80-100$ More! Is It Worth It To Get One That Icludes The Air Flow Sensor, Or Can I Jus Use The Stock One?

Also, If U Have Any Links, Or Suggestions On Which Inatke I Should Get, Please Fell Free To Posts, Thanks In Advance!
Old May 8, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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u can just use the stock air sensor. ram air is good for the sound, but it doesnt increase hp much. the stock setup is much more effiecient.
Old May 8, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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^so true..Why by a set that has an MAF when you can use your stock joint?
Old May 8, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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i love my short ram intake. the sounds great and i dont notice any hp loss. but i didnt replace my MAF, and it performs just fine.
Old May 8, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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If you do decide that you are going to get the short ram, get it from Ebay, they all work the same and it's much cheaper. But you should know that replacing your stock midpipe will mean lost in torque.
Old May 8, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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first of all, dont type like a retard. i have a weapon r short ram intake, and i love it ive noticed a high end increase in power, but loss in low end. what i love is the sound. growls at ya. get one off ebay, and replace the cheap crap airfilter with a k+n or a weapon r or a apexi or whatever you want brand of filter.
Old May 8, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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I haD tO reaD thaT craP twicE tO figurE ouT whaT thE hecK yoU werE oN abouT.
Old May 8, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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I don't notice any more power, what I do notice is the sound (obviously) and less jerkiness in 1st and 2nd gears (torque loss?). Frankly, I like the early gears being a bit smoother, easier for the wife to drive with the manual tranny. I have the stock MAF on, and mine is a ebay special.
Old May 8, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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so a K&N cone filter wouldnt work any better than a cheaper version
Old May 8, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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no no no, IMHO it filters WAY better. the good brands IMO are:

apexi, weapon r, k+n, and there are alot more filters from TRUSTED brands out there.
personally, i think the apexi is the best just from reading about it, but i love my Weapon R Dragon intake, its way loud and mean sounding.
Old May 8, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by K-Town Max98
no no no, IMHO it filters WAY better. the good brands IMO are:

apexi, weapon r, k+n, and there are alot more filters from TRUSTED brands out there.
personally, i think the apexi is the best just from reading about it, but i love my Weapon R Dragon intake, its way loud and mean sounding.
okay first of all these filters are all great, personally I think the monsterflow filter is the best because it uses a silcone tacking agent that prolongs the life of your MAF, obviously it would take a while to show its effectiveness.. but it also has better flow and still manages to capture the same particulate as the others. you can order them from cattman for around the same price.

EDIT:actually less. $39 and almost forgot the filter itself has the best airflow design in my opinion, with the implementation of a special type of velocity stack and stabilizing vanes the filter heps avoid incorrect MAF turbulence readings, pair that with a MAF adapter ring and you got a nice intake.



http://cattman.com/img/prod/monsterflow_a.jpg
Old May 8, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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okay first of all these filters are all great, personally I think the monsterflow filter is the best because it uses a silcone tacking agent that prolongs the life of your MAF, obviously it would take a while to show its effectiveness.. but it also has better flow and still manages to capture the same particulate as the others. you can order them from cattman for around the same price.

EDIT:actually less. $39 and almost forgot the filter itself has the best airflow design in my opinion, with the implementation of a special type of velocity stack and stabilizing vanes the filter heps avoid incorrect MAF turbulence readings, pair that with a MAF adapter ring and you got a nice intake.
ya i forgot about the monsterflow filter, ive read good things about that also. i still think the apexi is the best but thats my opinion. that one does look good tho.
Old May 8, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Steel mesh filters get great air flow, but they are worthless for filtering.
Old May 8, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
Steel mesh filters get great air flow, but they are worthless for filtering.
not steel mesh.. microcellular type material but its not foam, I'll get out the pamphlet later.
Old May 8, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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-Hey I might as well chime in too

-Well I recently bought and installed a K&N cone filter and MAF adapter from ebay. I basically accepted the fact that there is no noticeable hp gain from any intake system for the fourth gen (except a TRUE cai) but there is a nice sound available! I went with the K&N simply because it is a trusted name. The loss of low end power is barley noticeable. When you replace ur stock air box with a "cone" filter your intake system is open to ur entire engine bay, which is good for top end air flow. However, your stock air box creates a fast available chamber of air for ur engine to suck in right when u stomp on the gass giving ur max some nice low end torque, this available air is reduced when you get rid of your stock air box resulting in a SLIGHT loss of low end power.

-As far as a aftermarket mid pipe is concerned (throttle body -----> air box), from what i hear they have a smaller volume than the stock one. This is gona reduce that chamber of availble air even more resulting in a greater low end power loss.

Anyway, overall I like my K&N cone and she loves to growel over 3500 rpms, and works great with my warpspeed y-pipe. The Y-pipe was put in a week ago and I swear its not louder but i get some new "notes" out of my engine that I couldnt hear before.



P.S.

Who needs low end power anyway? If anything I need all the traction I can get. When my friends get in my car and they go "Hey so is this thing fast" i dont sit there and do a burn out. I simply drive slowly in 1st gear, bring her up to sayy 3800 rmps and stomp on it and watch my buddies head hit the head rest.

Feel free to away on my spelling/grammar/punctuation
Old May 8, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Yeah an aftermarket midpipe would lose more torque, and I do the same, WOT surprises a lot of people!
Old May 8, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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Approx. How much torque is lost for me switching from my stock intake setup, to that Injen CAI thas pretty much like a Hot Air intake, it sucks up all dat heat from the radiator.
Old May 8, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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It will probably be a noticable amount, espically if you stomp on the gas.
Old May 9, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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They don't teach reading and writing in schools anymore like they used to. Anyway, I prefer my own intake setup. It's a true CAI.

Old May 9, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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Does anyone have a JWT popcharger? I'm suprised no one's mentioned this one. I'm thinking of getting one and just bolting it on to my stock midpipe. Does it come with a velocity stack etc..?
Old May 9, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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It does come with a velocity stack, a lot of people have this setup and some think it's the best.
Old May 9, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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i have the jwt pop and a bomz midpipe but i haven't installed it yet. i'll try to throw it on tomorrow and then i'll get back with you guys.
Old May 9, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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Cool yeah I was wondering how the JWT popcharger compares to the apexi, stillen, monsterflow,K&N etc...
Old May 9, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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what about Weapon R Secret Weapon intakes do they help much because i was thinking about adding one to my 98 maxima to up the horsepower.
Old May 9, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 97MaximaSE97
Cool yeah I was wondering how the JWT popcharger compares to the apexi, stillen, monsterflow,K&N etc...
The JWT is like a K&N but it's bigger than all those listed filters.

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what about Weapon R Secret Weapon intakes do they help much because i was thinking about adding one to my 98 maxima to up the horsepower.
Ask K-TownMax about that, he has it.
Old May 9, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
The JWT is like a K&N but it's bigger than all those listed filters.
the JWT has a 6" aluminum venturi or velocity stack that has a larger, more gradual sweep where the k&n has a smaller, fast sweeping velocity stack. the inside top of the jwt pop also has like a cone that tapers as it approaches the velocity stack similar to the Apexi, where as the k&n does not have this.
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