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Old 06-27-2006 | 04:14 PM
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It makes more power than the MEVI virtually everywhere.
I just dont feel like debating this.. I agree with this statement other than more top-end power than the MEVI, that may be a stretch (but you did say "virtually").. But I haven't looked at a dyno since forever so anyways.

Personally, I'll be going MEVI.

Plastic, ugly and finagling FTL.

Aluminum, nice look, with easy install and instant gains FTW.
Old 06-27-2006 | 04:27 PM
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OMG THANK YOU......every day on my way home i could jsut imagine what my car would feel like about 4k without the $hitty USDM manifold...it feels like it just dies
The MEVI makes less HP/TQ than the USIM until ~5500 RPM. Where'd you get tis 4k business from?
Old 06-27-2006 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
The MEVI makes less HP/TQ than the USIM until ~5500 RPM. Where'd you get tis 4k business from?
I've seen dyons that say otherwise.
Old 06-27-2006 | 05:05 PM
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does anyone have a write up on how to install the 00Vi ??
Old 06-27-2006 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by i30ds
I've seen dyons that say otherwise.





Where the data came from: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=169219

The sticky where this info has been for a few years now:http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=190509

Originally Posted by SteVTEC
Also, Dave B's dyno was really tough to read. I tried to err optimistically on the MEVI dyno, but of all the dyno comparo's I've done, I would say this one is the least accurate. But again, the point is just to illustrate what's happening overall and to give you the "big picture" rather than be 100% accurate at each and every RPM interval ;-)
Old 06-27-2006 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
The MEVI makes less HP/TQ than the USIM until ~5500 RPM. Where'd you get tis 4k business from?
This dude knows his **** 00VI FTMFW!!!!!!!!
Old 06-27-2006 | 05:14 PM
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School these guys nismology. We've only been messing around with this thing for about 4 years.
Old 06-27-2006 | 05:17 PM
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What's 00vi

What's a sticky

What's the search
Old 06-27-2006 | 05:48 PM
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I'm dynoing this Saturday:

Mods:
K&N pod filter
Y pipe
no cat
MEVI not activating (Awaiting summit rpm switch (i forked the factory activation wire))

AND THEN i'm going to Dyno again in August with MEVI activating, I really want MEVI to be working this week but Summit RPM switch is on back order til 22nd July.

So we should eventually get a comparison of USDM vs MEVI (with JDM ecu)
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Well, when you do, post results.
Old 06-27-2006 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Zack342
This dude knows his **** 00VI FTMFW!!!!!!!!
zack dont take this the wrong way but I'm gonn bash you with a chair. How many "FTMFW's" do you have to ***** up this thread with.

I say Aluminum 00vi.. too bad it hasn't been done, nor is it worth the time haha..
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wow... like I never saw those dynos 10,000 times before.
Old 06-27-2006 | 06:42 PM
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wow... like I never saw those dynos 10,000 times before.
What's your point? You vs. SteVTEC = teh lose.
Old 06-27-2006 | 06:47 PM
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I loose to vtec who?
Old 06-27-2006 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology





Where the data came from: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=169219

The sticky where this info has been for a few years now:http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=190509

the dynos say ESTIMATED .........I am not saying the 00VI is better I am just defending my point the the MEVI isnt usless without ECU like someone had said on page 1...i feel the 00VI is better too but I am a simple easy bolt on guy who cant afford to have his car down for more than a day or and not try to mess around wit the 00VI so i will go with MEVI....because the 2 cars i have ridden with MEVI compared to my USIM the MEVI PULLS HARD UP TOP....and for track racing like i do where the RPMS are constantly past 5k its nice
Old 06-27-2006 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
the dynos say ESTIMATED .........I am not saying the 00VI is better I am just defending my point the the MEVI isnt usless like someone had said on page 1...i feel the 00VI is better too but I am a simple easy bolt on guy who cant afford to have his car down for more than a day or and not try to mess around wit the 00VI so i will go with MEVI....because the 2 cars i have ridden with MEVI compared to my USIM the MEVI PULLS HARD UP TOP....and for track racing like i do where the RPMS are constantly past 5k its nice
Did you read the thread i linked to?
Old 06-27-2006 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by i30ds
I loose to vtec who?
No, you lose. And if you're going to make fun of a moderator that has made countless contributions to the org over the years because he has VTEC in his username you're not worth my time.
Old 06-27-2006 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
No, you lose. And if you're going to make fun of a moderator that has made countless contributions to the org because he has VTEC in his username you're not worth my time.
the is to your statement. and your worth no ones time since you just call people like Zack liars when they produce evidence that proves you wrong.
Old 06-27-2006 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by i30ds
the is to your statement. and your worth no ones time since you just call people like Zack liars when they produce evidence that proves you wrong.
I never said he lied. I just called his results anomalous and not consistent with dyno's that have been posted with similar mods through the years. Nothing wrong with that. Once again, what's your point?
Old 06-27-2006 | 07:04 PM
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and no i didnt read...and did u read the rest of my post.......I FU.CKING SAID I KNOW THE 00VI IS BETTER...but for years people ran the MEVI with no ECU upgrade and it yeilding nice gains....and for my purposes i am not going to try to chase down 15 differents parts and worrying about the 00vi working right when i can spend a few hours in my garage with the MEVI and be done and still have nice gains...I know they wont be as good as the 00vi but i dont care....i dont drag race...i autocross....and roadcourse race.....RPMS= roughly 4.5k and up most of the time...which u and I both know the USIM sucks at so y noy MEVI...
Old 06-27-2006 | 07:10 PM
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Emo much? Relax dude. The reason i said that because of the "estimated" statement so you could see where the numbers came from.

Old 06-27-2006 | 07:17 PM
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no i dont Emo.....but i dont even know y we are arguing......my simple point was that the MEVI pulls up top way harder than the USIM even without the ECU upgrade....and reguardless of what RPM i had said it works....opposing what someone said on page 1....and as far as the estimated part goes it could also vary depending on RPM opneing and fuel tuning on how well the MEVI will work at certain RPMS
Old 06-27-2006 | 07:21 PM
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I wonder if anyone a/f tuned their MEVI's.. what would they see..

Some were too stupid and scared to even attmept such non-sense Although the big dogs did post ?'s re: that subject even many years ago (for N/A apps)

Old 06-27-2006 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
no i dont Emo.....but i dont even know y we are arguing......my simple point was that the MEVI pulls up top way harder than the USIM even without the ECU upgrade....and reguardless of what RPM i had said it works....opposing what someone said on page 1....
Agreed.
and as far as the estimated part goes it could also vary depending on RPM opneing and fuel tuning on how well the MEVI will work at certain RPMS
Well it's a fact that the USIM makes good power till about 5500 RPM. The ideal MEVI openings range from 5100-5300 RPM so i would say that SteVTEC's findings are pretty accurate.
Old 06-27-2006 | 07:24 PM
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l plan on having my local tuner who is vary good at what he does mess with it...i mean most people jsut get teh JWT ECu and call it a day....see i am going to activate the MEVI with VAFC so i can fuel tune and finely tune open points....local dynos are great...especially when u are friends with the owner....i dont feel like reading nor do i care if this has been done
Old 06-27-2006 | 07:28 PM
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The thing I wanna know is how do you base these things on that one dyno. I mean, show me 5 or more dynos then I'll agree..

To some degree I'm sure you might be able to tune and make the MEVI's real potential come out.
Old 06-27-2006 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
...especially when u are friends with the owner...



Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
dont feel like reading nor do i care if this has been done
It has, but 75% of people who dyno and condition MAF output typically forget or are oblivious that something is wrong with their car so the results cannot be taken seriously as something is wrong with the car and the results are 'lower' than expected...or at least that's the excuse.. RTFM.
Old 06-27-2006 | 07:36 PM
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meh....we will see....if i am wrong i am wrong if not then yay for me...i dont care...well i do but not the point where i am gonna be an e-thug....again IMO i think our cars produce cast amounts of power in the low end and middle and even with the loss of power the MEVI yield on those ranges it will still have plenty to keep pulling....but it sucks when u pull someone out the hole and u kit 5k and its like OK NO POWER....not that i race often...and to me any gain is good...jsut because its not crazy good no need to get worked up
Old 06-27-2006 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Apparition
The thing I wanna know is how do you base these things on that one dyno. I mean, show me 5 or more dynos then I'll agree..

To some degree I'm sure you might be able to tune and make the MEVI's real potential come out.
If you're referring to my post, SteVTEC is one of the most thorough and meticulous orgers to date. Just search for some of his old threads. I'm sure he wouldn't have made that a sticky if he didn't think the contents were completely legitimate and accurate. Also, he was a bit optimistic on the MEVI dyno plot.

Secondly, the question of tuning should not enter the equation since ANY VQ can benefit from a good tune regardless of which intake manifold it's sporting.
Old 06-27-2006 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
If you're referring to my post, SteVTEC is one of the most thorough and meticulous orgers to date. Just search for some of his old threads. I'm sure he wouldn't have made that a sticky if he didn't think the contents were completely legitimate and accurate. Also, he was a bit optimistic on the MEVI dyno plot.

Secondly, the question of tuning should not enter the equation since ANY VQ can benefit from a good tune regardless of which intake manifold it's sporting.
Honestly nismology I respect ya.. but on the other hand I still don't think theres quite enough evidence to close this case at the end of the day. But for now I will agree that so far 00vi shows more potential.
Old 06-27-2006 | 08:11 PM
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Huh? Although the 00VI > MEVI IMO, that wasn't my point. I was just saying that the MEVI makes more power over the USIM for only 1000 RPM with the stock rev-limiter. Nothing more, nothing less.
Old 06-27-2006 | 08:16 PM
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Huh? Although the 00VI > MEVI IMO, that wasn't my point. I was just saying that the MEVI makes more power over the USIM for only 1000 RPM with the stock rev-limiter. Nothing more, nothing less.
oh right on.. so what about with the ECU. I mean it if you shifted somewhere in the redline would drop you to redline in the next gear as well. So in turn wouldn't the MEVI still triumph at the track provided high shifting points? I'm not saying all around power though.
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I thought my post was clear enough
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In theory this (MEVI) would help autos more due to their longer gears....I know, :repost ... But, maybe shed some light to the noobl3t5

Originally Posted by Apparition
I mean it if you shifted somewhere in the redline would drop you to redline in the next gear as well
You have no idea you're talking about. Maybe you have the idea, but can't put it in words.
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In theory this (MEVI) would help autos more due to their longer gears....I know, :repost ... But, maybe shed some light to the noobl3t5
I'm gonna steal your car.
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In theory this (MEVI) would help autos more due to their longer gears....I know, :repost ... But, maybe shed some light to the noobl3t5

You have no idea you're talking about. Maybe you have the idea, but can't put it in words.
I'll try again. basically if your shift points are after where the stock limiter is you would be getting the full potential out of the MEVI, therefore doesn't it hold power over USIM in the long run cause of this. I mean if you have a MEVI and ECU and you use that to advantage at the track and the increase in power paid off correct?..

That better?.. Now I'm gonna steal your car.
Old 06-27-2006 | 08:32 PM
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I'll try again. basically if your shift points are after where the stock limiter is you would be getting the full potential out of the MEVI, therefore doesn't it hold power over USIM in the long run cause of this. I mean if you have a MEVI and ECU and you use that to advantage at the track and the increase in power paid off correct?..
Welcome to 2002.
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What's 00vi

What's a sticky

What's the search

Maybe requoting it will get people to understand the answers
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Welcome to 2002.
nah, all I'm saying is how can people still say 00vi > MEVI for sure. It would seem to me that its all opinion or basically what you want. Its either smaller all around gains, or this great gain at top end. Doesn't it depend what your M.O. is?

I've read the damn stickies ten million times.. just in case thats directed at me for some reason.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Maybe requoting it will get people to understand the answers
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