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Old 07-21-2006, 05:16 AM
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Not enough juice!

I do not condone street racing. But sometimes you have to do what you have to do...

There is this guy with a 325i in my neighborhood. It totally looks stock except it sounds like crap and it has a cored out headlight for intake purposes. Rumor has it this guy was swapping out the stock motor soon for an M3. This 325i is E33 body style.

I've kind of raced this guy twice. Never really off the line together....most time he is already ahead. But the unbelievable this is his top end. I haven't seen anything like this. This guys hit 80 and just rocket forth! I examined his cockpit and there is no boost gauges. I did here that he had supercharged the engine but I am not sure. He has a buddy with a silver 325i that is the same.

I am putting on a catback exhaust and was contemplating the headers. I do not have an intake...which I hear would be VERY beneficial to say "keeping up with the Jones". If I just want a good intake (money is no issue) where I will feel the gains what should I go with.

I've seen the threads on intakes in here and I never really got the answer I am looking for.

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Old 07-21-2006, 05:20 AM
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ok a 325I should be a piece of cake, if he pulls on u that much, yeah he's supercharged and an intake won't make you win. Put a vq35 and then smoke his brains out
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 95mtlMAXSE
ok a 325I should be a piece of cake, if he pulls on u that much, yeah he's supercharged and an intake won't make you win. Put a vq35 and then smoke his brains out

I need names of mods people. I have a y-pipe which I am thinking about swapping out for the header to catback Cattman system.

What about intakes?
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:30 AM
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Your stock intake is probably the best, especially in the summer. Header and catback won't help you overcome a supercharged bimmer. NO2 may be your best bet for revenge unless you want to go forced induction (supercharger or turbo), also. If you plan to go F/I it would be beneficial to do the header and catback, though. Just my $.02!
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:14 AM
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You need a variable intake to keep up with top end power like that.

After most bolt-on's and some weight reduction my car gives most cars in my area a run for their money in the 40-90 area but the USIM just has trouble breathing (see: power falls off) in the upper (>5500) rpms.

BTW those three twelves in your trunk are doing nothing (positive) for you.
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:25 AM
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get lightweight wheels (i think 17 is the best size for looks and perf)

325s shud be easy though, if hes pulling on you then he def is not stock. you can even give 330s a run for their money.

do the 3.5 swap!
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:10 AM
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get the oovi and spank him on the top end
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:12 PM
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my next door neighbore has a cammed, crate motor, c5 z06, drag radials and 150 shot of nos.

whenever i tried to race him, i always lose, dunno why.
what will i need in order to beat my neighbor's car?
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:13 PM
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^^^^^^^^u need a civic only they can beat 10 second cars..
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:25 PM
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yea for sure he isn ot stock..my cousin has 330ci with Dinan all over it and i still give him hard time in first 2 gears i'm always ahead in these two then he gets up on me...
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this thread sucks.
and if he's pulling on you "SUPER CHARGER HARD" dont even waste your time on an intake or exhaust...its not gonna make that much of a difference.
these mods do not throw you back in your seat.
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Old 07-21-2006, 03:18 PM
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you need to look in the 4th gen mods sticky at the top of the pages instead of trying to beat it out of people, cause ti will tell you what there is, and the reason and gain attirbuted with it. take a peak.....
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Old 07-21-2006, 07:35 PM
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if a 325 beat you, and he's not juiced or FI'ed, there's something wrong with your car. get a tune-up and check for codes. As far as mods, look into a MEVI or 00VI, Also JWT or TS ecu would help.
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Old 07-22-2006, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by f550maranello2
^^^^^^^^u need a civic only they can beat 10 second cars..
im sorry, but my 10 second honda only has 2 wheels haha
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Old 07-22-2006, 03:01 PM
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there is NO WAY my modded vq30 would have been able to keep with my stock 325is E36 with the original motor.

BUT, i blew the first motor and replaced it with a low milage motor (200psi per cylinder). and the second motor wasnt nearly as powerful. so i would say that a modded maxima would been able to give it a good run for its money.

i dont know if i had a freak motor to begin with but i dont think a lightly modded max would be able to keep up with a 3 series presuming that i didnt have a freak motor.
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Old 07-22-2006, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowNinja
there is NO WAY my modded vq30 would have been able to keep with my stock 325is E36 with the original motor.

BUT, i blew the first motor and replaced it with a low milage motor (200psi per cylinder). and the second motor wasnt nearly as powerful. so i would say that a modded maxima would been able to give it a good run for its money.

i dont know if i had a freak motor to begin with but i dont think a lightly modded max would be able to keep up with a 3 series presuming that i didnt have a freak motor.
3 series is no prob.....somethins wrong with your car....
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Old 07-22-2006, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NAPhi_Shift
im sorry, but my 10 second honda only has 2 wheels haha
its cause its so fast it just wheelies the whole time!
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Old 07-22-2006, 08:44 PM
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i raced a stock 325i you should be able to beat him without any problem.
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Old 07-23-2006, 07:22 AM
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catback won't give u as much of a boost as a header will... the header is what will give u the most HP and TQ boost along with the catback... and the intake won't do u jack even if its brand named like stillen or etc, ur better off stickin with the stock intake
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Old 07-23-2006, 09:29 AM
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Its a german car, of course its going to have great top end.
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Old 07-23-2006, 09:52 AM
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BTW Im sure a RWD conversion would help


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Old 07-23-2006, 11:25 AM
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Just move to a different neighbourhood. You won't be bothered by these feelings of inadequacy.
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:08 AM
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I just gained 40 FWHP. I Bought a 335xi emblem and stuck it on. Now when he sees me he will look at my car expressed in numbers and know that 335 is higher than 328.

YES. Cheapest mod I've done to date.

I'm getting a real CAI. I'm going with that dinosaur Place Racing. It only makes sense. BTW you can't really dyno intakes. Because there is no air flowing into to it. But it only makes sense that less turbulent cooler denser air helps. I'm sure in quarter of a mile and higher I will get a difference. Besides that headers are coming soon as well as the Cattman Catback. OOVI requires a **** load of custom configuration, doesn't it?

3 series has always been one of my favorite cars. I must beat it. I was planning on looking into the 06 Legacy B- Spec but decided against it. That is an impressive car for the money. Anyone looking for a large STI. The 06 is it (same engine, one pound less psi, and same suspension components).
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Old 07-24-2006, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MireLanski
I just gained 40 FWHP. I Bought a 335xi emblem and stuck it on. Now when he sees me he will look at my car expressed in numbers and know that 335 is higher than 328.

YES. Cheapest mod I've done to date.

I'm getting a real CAI. I'm going with that dinosaur Place Racing. It only makes sense. BTW you can't really dyno intakes.
yeah ya can.. when I dyno they aim a big fan at the front of the car.. so do a run - swap intakes - do 2nd run... the hood would have to be done so you still get heat soak but would be a reasonable indication.
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Old 07-24-2006, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MireLanski
I'm getting a real CAI. I'm going with that dinosaur Place Racing. It only makes sense. BTW you can't really dyno intakes. Because there is no air flowing into to it. But it only makes sense that less turbulent cooler denser air helps. I'm sure in quarter of a mile and higher I will get a difference. Besides that headers are coming soon as well as the Cattman Catback. OOVI requires a **** load of custom configuration, doesn't it?

3 series has always been one of my favorite cars. I must beat it.
Denser/cooler air helps. Lower pressure drop across the intake path helps. Reduced turbulence does not help - in fact most intakes are tuned to create a turbulent boundary layer because the air flows better around bends with less stagnation.

In any case, this little feud thing you have going on is very amusing. Kinda cute, like kids racing on their big wheels.

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