Dark99GLE

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2.2"F, 1.8"R for me, i love the look, but i need to get my wheels aligned and get the camber fixed

mrmagicpapi

Nope, my wheels aren't tucked. 2.2F & 1.8R sounds nice. I don't want 2 go through the same headache my friend is going through. He has a 94 integra with a 3 inch drop. He's stuck having 2 replace his axel a lot more often then he should originally have to, due to the weight thats drowning it. I know maxima's & Integra's aren't the same, but their still cars & their still common problems wit common solutions.

Cisco93lude

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you should be fine with 2" drop just watch out for those speedbumps

MaximaSE96

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do u have camber bolts or plates........

sickmax

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yes black maxima is tucking. here are a few pics for u

shiftnatredline

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yeah so ebay springs = bad?? i was looking at a set of tokico(?) shocks/springs set for around 400.. 1.5f and 1.25r i'm pretty sure.

d00df00d

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Tokico is good. It's the eBay no-name brand stuff that is bad.

loverholic

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damnnn...... i have never seen black maxima from the side view up close, i always loved the way his car front the front, but thats about the only pic i ever saw... seeing that car in those pics make my heart skip a few beats, i can catch a hard-on staring at that car... its like seeing vip_maxima's car........ but black... sweeeeeeeeeet..........

Black Maxima

Back from ban, just checking up on this thread.

MY WHEELS ARE TUCKED!

ray_289

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I wanna go with a 2in drop so i was thinkin Progress Springs and some Kyb Gr2's..how would the ride be with this?

-And wheres the best place to purchase the springs? and i assume ebays the cheapest for kyb's.

sorry if any of this is repeated

d00df00d

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Please don't go cheap on your suspension, especially with a 2" drop.

KYB GR-2s are stock replacement dampers. They're made for stock springs, and at best should only be used with a REALLY MILD drop. If you're going that low, you want Tokico Illuminas or Koni Yellows.

Grand_hustle17

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According to Redline maxima (a sponsor for here) 2" should be fine, my man' got a max with the tain srprings which is either a 2" or 2.2" drop and they said 19" would still work, maybe not 20's but 19's will

Bonka

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You shouldn't rub with S-Tech's.

If you wanted to go lower, get coilovers. I would say NCSU's drop would be the best compromise between ride height while maintaining longevity of the axles, boots and cv joints. With my S-Tech's, the control arms are already angled up and the flex section on my y-pipe will need to be replaced down the road.

d00df00d

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Axles and fender well clearance aren't the only problems. Don't forget that a ~2" drop seriously FUBARs your suspension and steering geometry, which will hurt your handling and might make your tires wear out faster.

Also, be CAREFUL with Tein S-Techs (the springs with the 2" drop). They kill most of your suspension travel and are barely stiff enough to keep your car from bottoming out over every single bump.

ray_289

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I geuss it would be better with progress Springs and Tokico Illuminas or Koni Yellows. Would it be around the same price for coil overs? And where is the best/cheapest place to purchase?

thanks for the replies

96blkonblkse

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how are sprints compared to the tein s-techs? I heard the sprints are stiff, which wouldnt be the best for ride quality but would prevent the suspension from bottoming out over every bump right?

d00df00d

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A decent set of coilovers should run you somewhere between the price of a Progress/Illumina setup and a Progress/Koni setup. They'll ride harder and handle much better than either of those setups.

Tein Basics would be fine with a 2" drop, and they're a great set of simple coilovers. For about the same price you could also get Ksport Kontrol Pros, which have camber plates and let you go as low as you want without losing suspension travel (disadvantages are that they have a harder ride unless you specifically order softer springs, and require periodic checking/maintenance).

d00df00d

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Exactly.

And don't forget, soft springs aren't always good for ride quality anyway. If they're too soft, you might have a floaty, uncontrolled ride and/or hit the bump stops so much that the ride ends up being harsh anyway.

alpha6

2 inches is too much here in NJ

huyqvu

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i have tein coilovers. not sure how much i lowered it. on stock wheels i have a finger gap and no bottoming out or anything. on my 17" with 235/45/17 i have a finger gap and not ride issues. but on my 18" with 32offset riding on 235/40/18 the front are always rubbing.

ray_289

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Where can i get the Tein Coilovers from?

MAXDADDY98

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I have Sprint Springs and on 19teens I tend to Rub alittle when I Turn the wheel to the Left for some reason I haven't gone underneath to see yet but it's fine when I cut the wheel Right.I post Pics soon

MAXDADDY98

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Before Drop


After

95 maxima se

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2' is perfect IMO, i had sprint/agxs on stock sawblades. if i can find a pic ill post it up

ray_289

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Which would be the best/cheapest setup

Tokico Illiminas that cost about $440
KYB AGX -$370
Tokico Blues-$300
Sprint Springs-$190
How do you guys think The tokico blues will ride witht the sprint springs?

shiftnatredline

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shoo after seein that drop i might want to do 2 inches w/ ksport springs and illumina shocks.

d00df00d

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Performance, quality, cost. Pick Two...

Don't get anything less than Illuminas with a drop that's bigger than ~1.5".

Cosmo459sx

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I have Tein S-techs on my otherwise stock 1999 gxe suspension. We took out the bump stops and have been rolling on stock struts/shocks for the past 3 months. I bottom on everything, it sucks. I'm going to get the Illuminas pretty soon, it should help with the bottoming, right? I honestly can't afford to get a new set of springs too. Honestly, how bad would the s-tech with illumina combo be? I'm running stock 15" sawblades with factory tire size btw. I dont want to kill my cars suspension/ axles/ and undercarriage. I've had "sport drops" before without any consequences for 100K miles on my hondas.

happyricefob

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i have s-tech on kyb agx w/ 17" for years... it's in my sig.

Cosmo459sx

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And you never had a problem with premature wear of front cv/axles? Maybe its just that my shocks and struts are blown.

d00df00d

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Um. Why?


It might help slightly, but not much. If you're bottoming out, it's because your springs are not stiff enough to handle your drop on the roads where you drive. Period. You need to either raise your car or stiffen your suspension, and either option will require different springs.


Cost, performance, reliability. Pick two.


Lighter cars, better suspension geometry.

Cosmo459sx

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Thanks for cutting that all up.

I doubt that changing from the s-techs to progressive or eibach is going to make much of a difference. There are probably more than a few on here rolling with s-tech + upgraded shock/strut combos without issue.

d00df00d

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Actually, changing to Progress will fix a lot. Changing to Eibach will fix everything.

Progress springs are stiffer than S-Techs and don't give as much of a drop, so they do a MUCH better job of keeping your car from bottoming out. Eibachs are slightly stiffer than Progress springs, and their drop is right in the sweet spot -- low enough to improve handling and looks, but not low enough to murder your suspension geometry and wear your axles out too prematurely.


There are definitely several people on these forums with S-Techs and Illuminas that "don't have problems". But that doesn't really say much. I know someone who had an I30 on cut Eibachs and stock dampers, which was quite literally the most innard-liquefying brain-smashing tooth-crushing combo I've ever seen, and he "didn't have problems" either.

It seems that most S-Tech owners can't even tell when they're hitting the bumpstops -- when they hear a hard whack, they just think the ride is hard because they're low. I wouldn't consider them authorities on the subject of whether S-Techs cause problems...

Besides, the ONLY cases of blown Illuminas I've ever seen have been with S-Techs.

ProjectMax96

i agree, my max is lowered 4 inches on 18's and my tires are still not tucked under the fender(the back is a tiny bit, but it sags for some reason). I have no issue with rubbing or anything either.

d00df00d

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If you're not tucking, there is no way you're dropped 4 inches unless you rolled your fenders...

Black Maxima

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Flava_24/7

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Ive been on Sprints with AGX's for years and have had no issues with axles, ever.

Flava_24/7

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, Im calling on the 4inch drop with Eibachs, NO WAY!
Where did you ever get the idea that Eibachs went that low?

Sorry, but this drop is not lower then my Sprints, and definately not lower then coilovers.

Cosmo459sx

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I hear what you are saying. I wasn't aware of the s-techs being a bit softer until after already installed. I'm quite **** about everything on my car and can't say I like them at all so far. I will admit it sits a tad lower than I had expected too. If I could only get my hands on a set of Eibach or Progress springs for a good price....Anyone?

Or maybe I should just say F$(k it and go for the 4" body scrape drop. lol

d00df00d

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Also, 4" is physically impossible on anything but coilovers....