Oil On Spark Plugs
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Oil On Spark Plugs
A few days ago I took out my spark plugs 2 replace them with the oem ngk's. Who ever owned the car b4 me had bosch platinum 1's (****ty Plugs) in there b4. Anyway wen i removed the 3 spark plugs in the rear of the engine (near the firewall) there was an oily substance on them. The 3 in the front were fine, and were in normal condition. I have no blue smoke or any kind of colored smoke coming from my exhaust, so i don't think i'm burning oil, but wat could be wrong here? 1 of my head gaskets? Piston Rings? Any1 wit any advice or solution please help, thanx.
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If you are worried about the pistons/rings do a compression test. PCVs can do this as well, but I'm not sure if it happens commonly with maximas, replace that first, it's cheap.
I wouldn't loose any sleep over it though if your car runs fine and there wasn't a ton on there. Who knows how long they were in for before.
If you are worried about the pistons/rings do a compression test. PCVs can do this as well, but I'm not sure if it happens commonly with maximas, replace that first, it's cheap.
I wouldn't loose any sleep over it though if your car runs fine and there wasn't a ton on there. Who knows how long they were in for before.
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Originally Posted by mrmagicpapi
wen i removed the 3 spark plugs in the rear of the engine (near the firewall) there was an oily substance on them. The 3 in the front were fine, and were in normal condition. I have no blue smoke or any kind of colored smoke coming from my exhaust, so i don't think i'm burning oil, but wat could be wrong here?
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njmaxseltd has a good point, I think everyone else including myself assumed you meant burnt oil on the plug tip. If it is wet with oil on the porcelain or nut side of the plug you have a leaking valve-cover gasket. If it is burnt oil on the tips you should replace the pcv valve then do a compression test.
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before calling foul on the valve cover gasket do a simple visual inspection of the spark plug tubes (with plugs removed). if you don't see a bunch of oil flowing down the side and pooling up, then it's not the tube seals (e.g. valve cover gasket set).
this is what a clean plug tube looks like:
(of course, we hope you don't have the carbon coated piston tops. and I'm wishing I had never used anti-seize on the threads.)
edit: NO, anti-seize did not cause the carbon. I didn't even imply that. good grief the conclusions you people draw. I just don't like having its residue piling up in the plug tube as shown below...
this is what a clean plug tube looks like:
(of course, we hope you don't have the carbon coated piston tops. and I'm wishing I had never used anti-seize on the threads.)
edit: NO, anti-seize did not cause the carbon. I didn't even imply that. good grief the conclusions you people draw. I just don't like having its residue piling up in the plug tube as shown below...
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Thanx, i'll go ahead and replace my pcv, it needs 2 be changed anyway. I do a lot of highway driving. My Max runs fine, no engine failures, just mostly suspendion work needed. I checked out my spark plug tubes, their clean, no oil. The oil that i found on the spark plugs were wet, not dried & burned up. I'll do a visual inspection of the rear valve cover gasket. Thanx alot everybody, any more advice or solutions are welcomed.
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Originally Posted by pimpsmatt
will antiseize really do that to your pistons?
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Originally Posted by pimpsmatt
is there any way to get clean that off without taking apart the engine?
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For those with oil on the plugs--PCV, head gasket, valve seals/guides, oil-control rings, worn cylinders. Someone chime in if there is something I'm forgetting here.
pcv-replace it, head gasket or rings/walls-compression test it, valve seals-blue smoke on start-up.
imho, since it is wet, I'm leaning towards a problem with the rings or walls, since oil entering through the pcv is more likely to be burned off, and you said you have no blue smoke of any kind. You should let it sit for a day or two, then perform both a dry & wet compression test (but put your old plugs in afterwards and take it out on the highway before you put your new plugs in) You can get a compression tester at sears for like $30 and it comes with instructions and info.
pcv-replace it, head gasket or rings/walls-compression test it, valve seals-blue smoke on start-up.
imho, since it is wet, I'm leaning towards a problem with the rings or walls, since oil entering through the pcv is more likely to be burned off, and you said you have no blue smoke of any kind. You should let it sit for a day or two, then perform both a dry & wet compression test (but put your old plugs in afterwards and take it out on the highway before you put your new plugs in) You can get a compression tester at sears for like $30 and it comes with instructions and info.
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Originally Posted by KRRZ350
Don't knock this idea until you have tried it....reason I haven't done it to my car w/170k is because I don't want to risk damaging the maf...if you disconnect the maf so it's not hot and rev it to 2k it should still do the trick.
i think ill keep the carbon on my pistons rather than have a hydro locked engine.
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CEL 0606 and oil in the hole
Im having almost the same problems here, but i just get 0606, the engine vibrates alot when shifting...just replaced all the plugs for NGK iridum ix, still the same... there was oil in the 3rd plug, no oil
on spark tip. So what is the problem ?
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I just did a swap of coils from cyl1 to cyl3 and the CEL now points to 0608, cyl1, but in FSM EC-295 ( DTC-P0306 ) the list of probable causes does not mention the coil`s, please, let it be the coils
on spark tip. So what is the problem ?
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I just did a swap of coils from cyl1 to cyl3 and the CEL now points to 0608, cyl1, but in FSM EC-295 ( DTC-P0306 ) the list of probable causes does not mention the coil`s, please, let it be the coils
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Anti-seize
A reason to avoid anti-seize is it can cause false O2 sensor codes by contaminating the O2 sensor(can also kill the o2 sensor). Use a quality plug and you shouldn't have any seized plug issues. Also anti-seize shouldn't be used on any rubber parts since it may make them soft and cause the rubber to expand.
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Originally Posted by pimpsmatt
is there any way to get clean that off without taking apart the engine?
It's called a "combustion chamber cleaning". I have yet to do this on my car (although I plan to), but I have done it on a toyota corolla and an old pontiac. You'll need a shop. You get the combustion chamber cleaner at the dealership, just be careful with it if you decide to use this stuff because it will eat through anything non-metal, plastic, paint, skin etc. Also flammable as a ****. The idea is basically the same as a REAL injector cleaning, you basically detach the fuel line (and block off any fuel return line), attach the pressurized container (you better have the right adapter!!!) to your fuel rail, and run the car off of a pressurized container of this stuff until it runs out and the engine stalls. During the process all hell will pour out of the tailpipe, so I hope the shop you use has exhaust hoses. After about 5-10 minutes the engine will stall and you are basically done. Its really easy if you have the appropriate adapter and a shop-air-line. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by KRRZ350
Don't knock this idea until you have tried it----- See the problem and reason I haven't done it to my car w/170k is because I don't want to risk damaging the maf, however if you disconnect the maf so it's not hot and rev it to 2k it should still do the trick. Pop off the filter, grab a glass of water, and be very careful dumping water down in there while you rev the **** out of the motor, it's a fine line between getting as much water as possible without hydrolocking. Look what comes out of your tail-pipe while you do this, better yet have somebody stand there and smell it, you'll be amazed.
Dude... terrible idea...
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