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Old May 3, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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ive got a 99 max gle. i just bought this car 2 weeks ago...im a honda guy ever since i started driving. now this car is already throwing SES light. (stealership probably deleted codes to make me wait to see theres a problem). so here i am at maxima.org...great forum! now, i havent even checked these codes but...from what ive seen nissan has put some REALLY bad components in ignition and emission system....was there ever no recall on these obvious turds for their ignition coils? why make such a great engine if the stuff around it is crap? other than that...ive never seen a honda that comes stock this damn sexy inside (or out assuming u find the few outlets to get mods for this starving vehicle)...black leather everywhere power everything...nice but i cant be converted till they prove they make quality everything and backup their consumers.
Old May 3, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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The same reason they don't recall the glass trannies?

BTW Acura TSX interior > Acura TL interior > Maxima interior.
Old May 3, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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Well, I have a '99 with the "bad" Hanshin coils but they all seem fine at 90K. (I bought the car at 74K and don't know if previous owner had any replaced.) I think the Hanshins are hit and miss, some of them may be fine and some may be bad. So why would Nissan issue a recall when many of them work fine and there's no safety issue (i.e. liability) involved? They'd rather charge the owner to fix them if and only if they go bad.
Old May 3, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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Just to chime in again, I sold a set of six Hanshins a few months ago to a member and every one of them checked out fine before I shipped them.
Old May 3, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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If you're that hung up on coils sell the friggen car. We don't need these crybaby posts and/or threads about relatively insignificant items. It's not like your radiator blew up like BMW's or there's excessive sludging like some toyota's. My mother's 540i has been FAR more problematic than my '99 which is still on original coils @ > 100k. I get an occasional miss at idle, yes, but the world isn't coming to an end because of it. Complain once, research it, fix the issue, and move on. I don't see what good crying all over this forum is gonna do.


Old May 3, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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Thank you, Moderator.
Old May 4, 2007 | 01:42 AM
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...It's not like your radiator blew up like an Acura Legend's which caused the head gasket to blow, requiring you have to rebuild the top end of the motor. Complain once, research it, fix the issue, and move on. I don't see what good crying all over this forum is gonna do.


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Old May 4, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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"Recalls" address safety issues with a car. Costly repairs, are in and of themselves, NOT reason to consider the problem a recall.

That's why most recalls address the fuel system, airbags/restraints, tire/stability, or braking systems. If you entire engine locks up and your drivetrain crunches into bits, you'll just come to a stop and it's not considered a dangerous thing.

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Old May 4, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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u say sell the car huh? i forgot to mention im financing this thing. and all im saying is that bad coils for this car is like mold on 10 year old cheese...99 especially am i crying for stating a the fact that nissan made a mistake with them? quit trying to act high and mighty bro. im just trying to learn about these cars because ive never been into to nissan in my life but was SOLD on the potential of this car to be one hot biotch...power options everywhere, leather interior this is one sexy car.
Old May 4, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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First, nissan doesn't make the coils. Secondly, it's a commonly known fact that 99's suffer from coil issues. It's allllll over this forum. It's just something that prospective buyers need to look into/consider or that current 1999 owners need to deal with. I get a miss at idle from time to time, but you know what? Big deal. I've come to terms with the fact that the coils will fail eventually and i can still appreciate my '99. The maxima has never been a perfect car. Every generation has their quirks. But from the way you're complaining one would think your engine blew its head gasket or something. But i guess i can see your point of view. Someone coming over from another automaker to nissan only to run into coil pack issues, i can understand the disappointment. But remember, no car is perfect.


There's not too much that nissan can do about it at this point so I say fix the issue and move on. If you like the car as much as you say you do, you'll get over it.
Old May 4, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorsteeler
ive got a 99 max gle. i just bought this car 2 weeks ago...im a honda guy ever since i started driving. now this car is already throwing SES light. (stealership probably deleted codes to make me wait to see theres a problem). so here i am at maxima.org...great forum! now, i havent even checked these codes but...
Maybe you should check which codes you are having before complaining about coils. I like my '99, and it doesn't even have leather.

Find out what the codes are, ask for help in the appropiate forums, and I bet you'll get lots of help.
Old May 4, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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yea...about the coils, i never said that was what was wrong with my car (as i said SES light was on) but i know that from being on this forum it is no surprise that this car has ignition and emission problems, small problems that are sometimes a pain in the tail to figure out (trial and error) so am i wrong to ask why did Nissan put faulty components with a Ward's top 10 v6 ever made???? why get offended, whether u or i like it or not, im stuck with this car and like any other car owner i will run into problems. thats why i am on here to discuss (not complain) about this car and i thank god that there is this forum which is REALLY great!!! this forum gives us and anybody curious about these cars to get information that would take us FOREVER AND A DAY to pinpoint problems and get advice without this outlet...
Old May 4, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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oh by the way my codes if u were curious were EGR+O2, so trial and error process to proceed starting today. FUN FUN FUN. i wonder how many beers im gonna drink b4 i narrow down why these codes are on b4 i have to replace every component...if both individual parts r in fact faulty...autozone wants $145 for egr valve and $95 for O2 sensor, damn dude they better be gold plated
Old May 4, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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I'll tell you why: Nissan was hurting financially in the late 90s, big time. They were looking for any way to save a few dollars on each car and Hanshin coils surely cost less than the Mitsubishi ones they had been using. It's a perfectly logical reason, and the company lived to tell the tale. They're not faulty coils either, they just don't last as long as the better coils.

And, not to go too hard on you here, but your argument is sort of moot from a purely logical standpoint as well. "It's a great engine and it has no big problems, so why are there small problems???" "That supermodel is beautiful, so why does she have a little mole on her cheek?" Things are the way they are.
Old May 4, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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Off the coil tpoic for a minute, to help you with your egr problem. Before you shell out the money for a new egr valve, plan few hours of free time, find the egr valve on the back of the intake manifold, take it off along with the piping, and clean em out. Let the pipe and the metal ported part soak in carb cleaner for about an hour. While thats soaking get any kind of hooked scraper you can and clean out the port on the back of the intake manifold the best you can. Its gonna be nasty in there. Make sure your intake manifold will still open and close, then put it all back together. See if that helps. Worked for me!!!! As far as the o2, replace it.
Old May 4, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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By the way, welcome to the maxima.org forums. This is our way of welcoming you same way I got welcomed in too... Good luck with your car, you love it and it will love you back.
Old May 5, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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dude, VQuick that pic under yer name is friggin hilarious
Old May 5, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by aaron-san
Off the coil tpoic for a minute, to help you with your egr problem. Before you shell out the money for a new egr valve, plan few hours of free time, find the egr valve on the back of the intake manifold, take it off along with the piping, and clean em out. Let the pipe and the metal ported part soak in carb cleaner for about an hour. While thats soaking get any kind of hooked scraper you can and clean out the port on the back of the intake manifold the best you can. Its gonna be nasty in there. Make sure your intake manifold will still open and close, then put it all back together. See if that helps. Worked for me!!!! As far as the o2, replace it.

yes indeed trust me i will try to start cheaply first trying to unclog everything in my vacuum sytem and thanks for the advice
Old May 6, 2007 | 06:01 AM
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How do you determine which coil is bad? Who sells them the cheapest? This is useful information.
Old May 6, 2007 | 06:22 AM
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yes indeed trust me i will try to start cheaply first trying to unclog everything in my vacuum sytem and thanks for the advice

BTW, I replaced my egr valve for 100 from mailorder nissan dealer and o2 sensor for $60. Also bought a used set of coils for 80. You can always find parts for less. I have a 99 with just over 138k and she's purring like a kitten.
All the info is on the org if you just search
Old May 6, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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160K and no problems with the coils...only the tranny bearings have gone out (the other common problem) It is a hit and miss, and does not effect your safety.
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