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Old 05-22-2007, 08:39 PM
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air box sensor...?

I have a 96 gxe.

I bought an intake wit a K&N cone filter an when I was going to install it I noticed the top half of the stock air box has a sensor that plugs into a connector next to the MAF sensor. I know the new filter will go after the MAF but what about that sensor that is on the air box? will that triger the CEL if its left unplugged?
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:52 PM
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thats the ambient air temp sensor...just take it out of the airbox and lay it off to the sider plugged in and zip tie it to something. i think i used a a/c line for my girlfriends car.
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thanks,
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:46 PM
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no way man thats your intake air temp sensor which is very imoportant to have in the airstream at all times if your getting a intake you can tap a small hole and stick the IAT in and secure it whatever way possible heres a pic of my setup the pic is from under the intake
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youre taking air in from the engine bay area so it doesnt really matter with a cone filter.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:34 PM
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Yeaa But The Sensor Dosent Work Unless Air Is Flowing Over It Or Else It Gives False Readings About The Air Temps Thats How A Intake Air Temp Sensor Works
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Originally Posted by slinky87
Yeaa But The Sensor Dosent Work Unless Air Is Flowing Over It Or Else It Gives False Readings About The Air Temps Thats How A Intake Air Temp Sensor Works
Air doesn't have to flow over it because that sensor is the same as the temp. sensor for nissan auto dimming mirrors that display outside temperature. I know because I have one and the sensors are the same but not interchangeable because the mirror one actually is on a plug, but basically the same style sensor. Mine has been hanging out for years and I have not noticed a difference, but for peace of mind just drill a hole and install it. You guys are making me paranoid about it now....
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Originally Posted by maxgtr2000
Air doesn't have to flow over it because that sensor is the same as the temp. sensor for nissan auto dimming mirrors that display outside temperature. I know because I have one and the sensors are the same but not interchangeable because the mirror one actually is on a plug, but basically the same style sensor. Mine has been hanging out for years and I have not noticed a difference, but for peace of mind just drill a hole and install it. You guys are making me paranoid about it now....
right but think about it why would engineers put this sensor int the air stream if it didnt have to be there in the first place theres a reason why ALL intake air temp sensors no matter what brand of car have them IN the air path and not hanging out in the engine bay like a ambient temp sensor they work off of way diffrent principals even though they look similar
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:41 AM
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It's just there for diagnostics and data logging, it doesn't have any effect on the car's performance.
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Old 05-23-2007, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Wassup2114
It's just there for diagnostics and data logging, it doesn't have any effect on the car's performance.
Taken from the FSM.
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:21 AM
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okay correct me then if im wrong but why would you need a IAT sensor forf diagnostic reasons? that makes absolutley no sense in the years ive been working on cars i have never ever seen a IAT sensor not have a function for the ECU and just for "diagnostic" purposes can you please explain that to me
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Not sure what to make of this, but this is where this interpretation is coming from.

Originally Posted by 1995 Factory Service Manual
The intake air temperature sensor is built into the air cleaner, detects intake air temperature and transmits a signal to the ECM.

The temperature sensing unit employs a thermistor which is sensitive to the change in temperature.

Electrical resistance of the thermistor decrease in response to the temperature rise. This sensor is not directly used to control
the engine system. It is used only for the on-board diagnosis.
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Why would they remove it on 97-99s then? It is not that important...
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They didn't remove it, just relocated it.
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From what i know it is only for diagnostics....

If it makes you happy... zip tie it to the cone, or something. I dunno haha.
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Originally Posted by CaptainFill
From what i know it is only for diagnostics....
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
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sorry... I read the problem, and answered to the best of my ability. My post... does however further back up the other 3.... who are right
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HEEEELLLLPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!My engine light is on. I am getting 03 02 code. I have been told this is an egr valve issue. Since the light has come on, my car has cut off while I have been driving 3 times in the last 3 days. I let it sit and I will crank it up and it runs to cut off the next day. Can the issue be pinpointed? I have seen a number of posts on this EGR issue, but have never read where the car was cutting off. Can someone please help? 8 days untill inspection!
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainFill
sorry... I read the problem, and answered to the best of my ability. My post... does however further back up the other 3.... who are right
Nice post, no flaming,

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Old 05-23-2007, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by slinky87
Yeaa But The Sensor Dosent Work Unless Air Is Flowing Over It Or Else It Gives False Readings About The Air Temps Thats How A Intake Air Temp Sensor Works

no...its ambient...as in ....unmetered air by the mass air meter.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
They didn't remove it, just relocated it.
its intergrated into the 97+ MAF'S
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:01 AM
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Yeh I wouldnt even bother with the cone filter. Did u buy it off eBay? I did the same thing, I just tied the sensor off to the brake line and my CEL went on. Big waste of money, just go the distance with the CAI.
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Old 05-26-2007, 09:37 AM
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If you remove the air intake temp sensor, it'll trigger your CEL. I know because when the CEL on my car (98 SE) came on, I checked the code and it was 110 for air intake temp sensor. Once I replaced it, the light went off.
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Old 05-26-2007, 12:41 PM
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That's all it will do, set off the CEL. It wont affect performance.
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Old 05-26-2007, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by XJinCT
its intergrated into the 97+ MAF'S
yet another piece of false info in this thread.

Note to idiots, if you dont know WTF you are talking about dont say a god damn thing.
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Old 05-26-2007, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by XJinCT
its intergrated into the 97+ MAF'S
If you're referring to 02+ MAFS, then yes, you're correct. But you're not referring to those cars, so, no I with JSutter.
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Old 05-29-2007, 05:42 PM
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so whats the verdict on this if it does set off the cel then how could a person avoid this if at all with an aftermarket k&n filter hooked up to the maf would it be possible to install the sensor into the stock midpipe somewhere? also if the sensor is just sitting in the engine bay zipped tied to something will the cel come on our is it just if you unplug the connector on the sensor? thanks for the help appreciate it
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Old 05-29-2007, 06:20 PM
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I zip tied it like the other millions of members on here that have done this before.

No CEL.
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Just wanted to elaborate what little I know on to the 'only used for diagnosis' thing..... Readiness checks won't pass for o2's, o2 heaters, & cat's if you have an iat code.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by KRRZ350
Readiness checks won't pass for o2's, o2 heaters, & cat's if you have an iat code.


Good point & food for though for people that get inspected.
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Benzmcs
so whats the verdict on this if it does set off the cel then how could a person avoid this if at all with an aftermarket k&n filter hooked up to the maf would it be possible to install the sensor into the stock midpipe somewhere? also if the sensor is just sitting in the engine bay zipped tied to something will the cel come on our is it just if you unplug the connector on the sensor? thanks for the help appreciate it
Stillens filter has a spot to intall the sensor. There are 2 different part numbers since the 95/96 and 97-99 are different sensors. If you buy a cheap filter at the store it would take 5 minutes with a drill to install the sensor in the end.



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Originally Posted by hollywood27409
HEEEELLLLPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!My engine light is on. I am getting 03 02 code. I have been told this is an egr valve issue. Since the light has come on, my car has cut off while I have been driving 3 times in the last 3 days. I let it sit and I will crank it up and it runs to cut off the next day. Can the issue be pinpointed? I have seen a number of posts on this EGR issue, but have never read where the car was cutting off. Can someone please help? 8 days untill inspection!
this is the wrong thread to post that, if you dont have enough posts to start a new thread post it on the newbie forum, you generally get good help from there
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Originally Posted by Benzmcs
so whats the verdict on this if it does set off the cel then how could a person avoid this if at all with an aftermarket k&n filter hooked up to the maf would it be possible to install the sensor into the stock midpipe somewhere? also if the sensor is just sitting in the engine bay zipped tied to something will the cel come on our is it just if you unplug the connector on the sensor? thanks for the help appreciate it
if you have a stillen intake, and it will give you peace of mind then go ahead and drill the hole and install the air temp sensor there, other wise just make sure it is plugged in and not rubbing against anything and you will be fine.
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thanks for the help guys appreciate it
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