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Old 07-30-2001, 12:07 AM
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Last night there was a new prelude and a mustang lined up at the lights right in front of me. I wanted to see if u could keep up with them so I gunned it at the green too. The funny thing is, I had to let off the gas in order not to run into the Prelude. Was he just a bad driver, or are those things gutless? I dont think the 'stang was doing well either....musta been a V6....
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention that I had 4 people in my car too :P
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Old 07-30-2001, 01:23 AM
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A Prelude 5-spd would be pretty much even with a 4th gen 5-spd. But in the highend, VTEC really helps, so it might pull away at higher speeds.
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Originally posted by Eric L.
A Prelude 5-spd would be pretty much even with a 4th gen 5-spd. But in the highend, VTEC really helps, so it might pull away at higher speeds.
I had a stock 91 Prelude SI, and raced my friend with a stock 2000 prelude and smoked him, both were automatics ...but hey
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Isnt the prelude Honda's "High performance" car? Kinda pathetic if it cant even beat a Nissan Luxury Sedan
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Old 07-30-2001, 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by Eric L.
A Prelude 5-spd would be pretty much even with a 4th gen 5-spd. But in the highend, VTEC really helps, so it might pull away at higher speeds.
I ran a stock new prelude 5spd from 50km/h to 110km/h with my automagic maxima, both with 1 driver and both had sunroof open, he pulls like 1/2 a car infront of me because my stupid tanny was stuck in like 3500rpm second gear, it should have changed into first, in vtec then when he shifts I get 1/4 back then neither of us was pulling and I let off @ 110. If we started off the line I'm pretty sure I could have pulled on him a little and maybe it would have been a tie. or maybe he wasn't WOTing or redlining it.
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preludes aint slow for **** if the driver knows how to drive....if driven properly it can bust high 14s stock
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Old 07-30-2001, 08:15 PM
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91 against 2000?? didn't vtech not come out until 92 or so?? i dunno correct me...... I always thought prelude's were fast and pretty nice looking to, although this is the last year they're making em due to no actual profit coming from em, although honda will have something new instead...

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I had a 93 Prelude VTEC with CAI system, header, cat-back exhaust, and chip. My best on street tires was a 14.1@98mph. The VTEC system really works well especially in the high speeds. On the highway, I would keep up with Z28s and blow away Mustangs. I sold it because I sucked up water from the CAI. I actually got lucky and had no damage because it was at low rpm. Sold it just in case the piston rings may have been damaged. So, I highly suggest not putting the filter in the front lower fender. If you do get that device that keeps the water out.
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To all who've beaten the new preludes, dont kid yourself.

If you were able to beat the new prelude, especially if the Lude was 5 speed, then the driver cant drive jack shlt. The Preludes are very fast. And that Prelude you almost bumped into carrying 4 passengers, the Lude wasn't going at full speed.
It's a different story for the 5th gens, but for the 4th gens, the VQ is a no match for the Lude's VTEC.
When you race a prelude from standstill, he'll be so far ahead by the time you reach 90, you have no chance of catching him.
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Re: To all who've beaten the new preludes, dont kid yourself.

Originally posted by hokiemax
If you were able to beat the new prelude, especially if the Lude was 5 speed, then the driver cant drive jack shlt. The Preludes are very fast. And that Prelude you almost bumped into carrying 4 passengers, the Lude wasn't going at full speed.
It's a different story for the 5th gens, but for the 4th gens, the VQ is a no match for the Lude's VTEC.
When you race a prelude from standstill, he'll be so far ahead by the time you reach 90, you have no chance of catching him.
Yeah I have a feeling he just didnt know how to shift properly...he was probably just drunk.
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Re: To all who've beaten the new preludes, dont kid yourself.

Originally posted by hokiemax
If you were able to beat the new prelude, especially if the Lude was 5 speed, then the driver cant drive jack shlt. The Preludes are very fast. And that Prelude you almost bumped into carrying 4 passengers, the Lude wasn't going at full speed.
It's a different story for the 5th gens, but for the 4th gens, the VQ is a no match for the Lude's VTEC.
When you race a prelude from standstill, he'll be so far ahead by the time you reach 90, you have no chance of catching him.
can type Rs really do low 14 stock? The lude I ran looked so new and clean , it was an SE (think it came out in 2000 not sure) maybe it was still breaking in
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Old 07-30-2001, 11:16 PM
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Preludes are very nice....before buying my MAX I shopped many 96 preludes, but the interior is too small. I think the previous generation prelude looks better and is faster than the current one.
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my friend has a gsr with cai, act street clutch, and cat back exhaust..and busted a 14.7 in the 1/4.
ive seen ludes run 14.8 with i/h/e..or less..

an auto maxima will have a hard time with them on the fwy.....a 5spd max? well thats a different story....
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Old 07-31-2001, 03:59 AM
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Preludes only come in 4 cylinders dont they???
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Old 07-31-2001, 07:14 AM
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preludes...

I have a friend w/ a '92 prelude, not VTEC... they run like a 7.7 I believe.. all I know is I could take him anytime w/ my old automatic...

Last night on the interstate I see this one prelude that looks soooo good - he's into showing and crap... he is VTEC, short throw, intake, exhaust and I dont know what else... a lot of money in body work (body kit stuff) and lots of $ in stereo (weighs him down) - he also has 17" rims. VERRRRY nice looking prelude, I love it. Black w/ red highlights/decals.. I'll post a pic when I meet up w/ him tonight at the big car meet here... BUT ANYWAYS, back to the interstate... we went from 80mph to... ?mph (never looked at spedo honestly... sorry haha) and at first we were dead side by side... then I started to pull some, to where he was perfect in my blind spot, but then we were still sitting there... since I was watching tach and the road I yelled at my friend to check what was going on - I was still pulling, barely... then he had to shift (apparently at a dif. time then me) and I pulled hard then.. maybe got 1-2cars by the time we quit, and he slams on his brakes, gets over, and got off the exit immediately. haha, I waved... he is a cool guy though, I've met him before and his car looks PHAT!

But just goes to show, their little vtec ish can't hold the max hehe -

BTW here are some #'s for you all to look at

Prelude:
'92 SI VTEC 6.7 15.2 93mph 5spd
'93 VTEC 7.2 15.1 5spd
'94 VTEC 7.2 15.1 5spd
'95 VTEC 6.7 15.1 5spd
'00 VTEC 6.8 15.4 5spd

dont flame me if those are wrong... I thought '00s were faster?
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Old 07-31-2001, 07:23 AM
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All Preludes are powered by 4 cylinders with the 5th Gen ones having 190-200hp. An auto Max will have problems with any 5th Gen Prelude. The auto version of the Prelude is significantly slower b/c high rev hp + low torque do not motivate automatic transmissions. Auto vs. Auto, its a close match with the Prelude having hp and weight advantages but the Maxima has the big torque advantage.

And all this talk of manual Maxima highway performance doesn't make that much sense to me. Even for a manual it's geared pretty tall which is good for the engine's torque characteristics but unless you're talking about top gear acceleration where extra torque helps, the Prelude's got an advantage here. My car is spinning 4K in 5th by 80 and dropping it to 4th means I'm in VTEC all the way past 110. In an all out race, the Prelude is between hp and torque peak the entire time. It also has 1000 more RPM to work with while 4th Gen Maximas are running out of power by 6k.

I have raced my brother Shadow's '97 auto countless times and he only gets beaten worse as speeds increase. Nowadays with his 19's I can pull 2 carlengths in 2nd without hitting VTEC. Back when he was on 17's I could keep up w/ a friend's '95 Mustang GT 5spd(5.0 version) no problem. That generation Mustang was known for being slow so it shouldn't be much of a surprise. These cars vary a lot and maybe you ran into a auto vs. V6 race. Another possibility is your car is freakishly fast.
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Old 07-31-2001, 07:26 AM
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All ludes are 4's. The only difference is the tranny and drivetrain on the SH, a prelude (especially a SH) should have no probs with a 4th gen MAX, smaller lighter and just as much power (and a lot better handling)....
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Old 07-31-2001, 07:38 AM
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He is 5spd I know for a fact.... I dunno about anything else, I hear what your saying about being in VTEC the whole time, but yeah my car dropped to 4th is in its power band the whole time.... and I've got 6cylinder vs his 4... I dunno, I dont want a flame thing over it - I'm just letting you know what was going on...

when I talk to him tonight maybe we'll go out to the place everyone races and take it from 0 and see what happens.. we'll both agree to post the results (IF he shows up tonight at the meet and IF he will race...)

maybe my car is just freakishly fast

I also took a modded v6 5spd stang(no im not bragging on this one hehe) a 5spd integra who goes "WHAT ARE YOU RUNNING YOUR CAR IS FAST AS ****!" and when I asked what model he was he said "VTEC Integra w/ exhaust" so I dunno.... I had another integra last night but that guy ran off once I whooped him - dont know what he had.. I dont even feel like I can brag about integras or civics nemore... YUCK !

now some of the guys rolling around had a new SS and a '00 vette totally race modified... etc, so I didnt screw with them hehe, we're all friends though -
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what tanny does prelude "SE" comes with it had the old civic si blue <2000 so it was probably a new model ? thats the one I ran with my automagic tanny and all he did was pulled abt 1/4 car on me
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